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Title: 1968 Mustang GT #559 driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 14, 2019, 07:10:35 PM
The car that never was going to be sold....

Florida any takers. BIG Mike you going for this one?

Bhueller,  Bhueller, Bhueller....anyone, anyone....


BREAKING: The 1968 Mustang GT Driven by Steve McQueen in Classic Film “Bullitt” to Cross the Block During the World's Largest Collector Car Auction.

Click the link to read the full press release here: http://bit.ly/2KIuvb8

Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: 2112 on August 14, 2019, 10:23:32 PM
I am shocked.  ::)
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: Shelby_r_b on August 14, 2019, 11:40:45 PM
Interesting.

I wonder what this will do (if anything) for the second car that’s currently being restored.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: Coralsnake on August 15, 2019, 07:54:20 AM
I followed the second car pretty closely when it came on th internet

Personally, it appears to have a lot of provenance issues this car does not
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: stangman39 on August 15, 2019, 08:23:44 AM
I wonder what current owners dad would be saying about this!
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 15, 2019, 08:27:18 AM
I am shocked.  ::)

what we value others including family do not, sad to say but true it's all about the bejamins
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: 2112 on August 15, 2019, 09:51:54 AM
I thought I read that Ford wanted it?

Could the price have been too high?
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: 68stangcjfb on August 15, 2019, 10:35:14 AM
 I'm thinking Barrett-Jackson at Scottsdale would be a better venue for this car. Saturday night primetime. And what do you thinking about a reserve? I'm thinking 5 million.  I'm also thinking Craig Jackson will probably be bidding on it. Undercover of course since it will be at Mecum. Chaz McQueen also.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: deathsled on August 15, 2019, 10:37:45 AM
I hope Ford gets it. The car belongs in a museum. When I drove over 300 miles in the dead of winter to see it in Traverse City on display the doors were locked to Hagerty's despite a call to Hagerty's the day before that it was open to the public on Saturday. They let me in with other Hagerty employees who streamed in a side door. I saw that it bore a license plate designating the car on the list of Historic US pieces. Therefore, museum would be the best thing for it.
But...this is a free market so have at it privateers.

Richard E.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: BGlover67 on August 15, 2019, 10:39:03 AM
 And to think Steve McQueen made a few offers to purchase the car over the years. He must be ‘rolling in his grave.’
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: stangman39 on August 15, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
I too am a little surprised Barrett Scottsdale is getting to auction it.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 15, 2019, 10:51:51 AM
Interesting.

I wonder what this will do (if anything) for the second car that’s currently being restored.

a true collector would not be interested in the second car, as what was found was the bare bones....

now to the uniformed with cash, it would be a great trophy to brag to their friends...look I have the bullit car....

car 1 is valuable

car 2 to me is just a car  that someone assembled with reproduction parts...I will label this as the dynacorn bullit # 2....
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 15, 2019, 11:24:16 AM
I wonder what current owners dad would be saying about this!

after so many years of concealing it from the public and attempting to keep it as original as possible for his family....I would guess not a happy camper to put it lightly....
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: stangman39 on August 15, 2019, 11:38:43 AM
I agree. 
I guess it had to eventually be sold but it seemed the dad enjoyed knowing he had it and keeping it a mystery of sorts.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: JessC on August 15, 2019, 11:41:47 AM
The  #2 Bullit car is being put back together with the correct date coded parts with a certain date ... I know personally one of the guys that is helping with car  .Here in S California it is being a tough task to do this correct to find  the parts.
Just my 0.02 cents
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 15, 2019, 12:19:29 PM
Interesting.

I wonder what this will do (if anything) for the second car that’s currently being restored.

a true collector would not be interested in the second car, as what was found was the bare bones....

now to the uniformed with cash, it would be a great trophy to brag to their friends...look I have the bullit car....

car 1 is valuable

car 2 to me is just a car  that someone assembled with reproduction parts...I will label this as the dynacorn bullit # 2....
While I know nothing of the build many of the original (rusted) parts that came off of car #2 were brought for Kevin Marti to see when he verified the car. A real interesting story that Kevin told me and a couple of other guys 2 years ago.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: deathsled on August 15, 2019, 01:53:56 PM
From the one photo I saw of the second Bullitt car, the chassis still looked intact which I consider to be the soul of the car. As I have analogized in the past, much like a soldier that loses a limb in war, he is still that same man and is no less a man for it.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: CharlesTurner on August 15, 2019, 02:11:01 PM
The  #2 Bullit car is being put back together with the correct date coded parts with a certain date ... I know personally one of the guys that is helping with car  .Here in S California it is being a tough task to do this correct to find  the parts.
Just my 0.02 cents

Not that difficult if one can locate a parts car from the same assembly plant and time period.  For such a significant car, a $5-15k+ investment in a nice parts coupe or even a fastback will pay off in the long run.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 15, 2019, 02:29:53 PM
I hope Ford gets it. The car belongs in a museum. When I drove over 300 miles in the dead of winter to see it in Traverse City on display the doors were locked to Hagerty's despite a call to Hagerty's the day before that it was open to the public on Saturday. They let me in with other Hagerty employees who streamed in a side door. I saw that it bore a license plate designating the car on the list of Historic US pieces. Therefore, museum would be the best thing for it.
But...this is a free market so have at it privateers.

Richard E.

+ 1
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 15, 2019, 02:31:18 PM
I thought I read that Ford wanted it?

Could the price have been too high?

if they really want it, they now can bid on it
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 15, 2019, 03:24:31 PM
From the one photo I saw of the second Bullitt car, the chassis still looked intact which I consider to be the soul of the car. As I have analogized in the past, much like a soldier that loses a limb in war, he is still that same man and is no less a man for it.

not disputing your soldier theory and our utmost respect to all who participated and sacrificed

 we to viewed what was left of vehicle number two

even if you could replace it with day one sheet metal, correct stampings, date codes etc

it can only be that particular original car once

the question we pose is at what point does one call it a rebody ?
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: deathsled on August 15, 2019, 03:51:47 PM
Yes, good question, Tony. Like the Viking axe that has the handle replaced at some time. Is it still original? And then the head of the axe is replaced a little later on.  These are interesting and philosophical questions.  Maybe it goes to the passage of time. For example if the original handle of the axe was replaced 100 years into the Viking period (meaning that the entire axe is still about 900 years old instead of 1,000), then would a historian still consider it an original axe? Maybe the answer is yes, but if the handle was replaced yesterday then it's not so original. There is no doubt that the hero car has a higher provenance. My understanding is the wrecking yard number two car did all the heavy lifting but is essentially a "turtle in a half shell."
Maybe 500 years from now our future society might revere the number 2 car just as much as the number one because it was redone so close to the period of time of the manufacture of both cars.

As an addendum, I have heard of Cobras where the only original part left is a door handle or a door hinge. Hmmmm.
Wonder how Socrates or Nietzsche would approach the subject.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: Dkutz on August 15, 2019, 04:41:42 PM
I still suspect that the family really doesn't want to sell, nor would FORD let it go.  I think they will put a huge reserve on it, and it won't sell.  I think they just want to value it if it ever did sell.
And the Bid goes on....
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: JessC on August 15, 2019, 05:01:58 PM
Here is the AD in Los Angles Craigslist  searching for  parts for  Bulitt #2


WTD 1968 GT Mustang 390 Original 558 Bullitt parts

Looking for original drive train parts for the original 558 1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 4 speed Bullitt from the movie Bullitt.
Parts needed are for the car that was in the end race scene, the rear burn out and other scenes which Steve Mc Queen was driving in...

All date codes must be between November 15th 1967 and December 15 1967
Ex manifolds
Smog parts
Radiator
Crossmember for 4 speed
Pinion Support
Much more
Call for list

We have found many parts and some parts still needed.
Restoration in progress and 558 should be done soon.

Jim
show contact info
Call or email if you have some of the parts or have knowledge of someone that might have them
show contact info

    do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 15, 2019, 06:20:21 PM
Yes, good question, Tony. Like the Viking axe that has the handle replaced at some time. Is it still original? And then the head of the axe is replaced a little later on.  These are interesting and philosophical questions.  Maybe it goes to the passage of time. For example if the original handle of the axe was replaced 100 years into the Viking period (meaning that the entire axe is still about 900 years old instead of 1,000), then would a historian still consider it an original axe? Maybe the answer is yes, but if the handle was replaced yesterday then it's not so original. There is no doubt that the hero car has a higher provenance. My understanding is the wrecking yard number two car did all the heavy lifting but is essentially a "turtle in a half shell."
Maybe 500 years from now our future society might revere the number 2 car just as much as the number one because it was redone so close to the period of time of the manufacture of both cars.

As an addendum, I have heard of Cobras where the only original part left is a door handle or a door hinge. Hmmmm.
Wonder how Socrates or Nietzsche would approach the subject.

in the end it wont really matter what we say or think...the bid goes on
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 15, 2019, 06:22:10 PM
I still suspect that the family really doesn't want to sell, nor would FORD let it go.  I think they will put a huge reserve on it, and it won't sell.  I think they just want to value it if it ever did sell.
And the Bid goes on....

if the bids get lively it will be sold ! sold !  sold !
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 15, 2019, 06:25:34 PM
Here is the AD in Los Angles Craigslist  searching for  parts for  Bulitt #2


WTD 1968 GT Mustang 390 Original 558 Bullitt parts

Looking for original drive train parts for the original 558 1968 Mustang Fastback GT 390 4 speed Bullitt from the movie Bullitt.
Parts needed are for the car that was in the end race scene, the rear burn out and other scenes which Steve Mc Queen was driving in...

All date codes must be between November 15th 1967 and December 15 1967
Ex manifolds
Smog parts
Radiator
Crossmember for 4 speed
Pinion Support
Much more
Call for list

We have found many parts and some parts still needed.
Restoration in progress and 558 should be done soon.

Jim
show contact info
Call or email if you have some of the parts or have knowledge of someone that might have them
show contact info

    do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers

pretty short list of parts needed...
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: J_Speegle on August 15, 2019, 07:35:36 PM
There were a number of different ads posted looking for individual and body parts posted on Craig's List and in direct contacts made during that time period.

Completely different car, situation and details than the thread car.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 15, 2019, 07:48:44 PM
folks let's drop # 2 ( that didn't sound right ) and concentrate on the sale of # 1 the bullitt mustang
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: deathsled on August 15, 2019, 08:37:12 PM
Drop #2. Good one.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 16, 2019, 07:54:22 AM
I followed the second car pretty closely when it came on th internet

Personally, it appears to have a lot of provenance issues this car does not

+ 1 and welcome back from your sabbatical
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 16, 2019, 08:01:37 AM
Always remember;

A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon without springs. It's jolted by every pebble on the road

Drop #2. Good one.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on August 16, 2019, 08:28:45 AM
# 2
Title: Fresh off the press Bullitt 559 photos at car show now
Post by: FL SAAC on August 24, 2019, 12:12:23 PM
tony C. just sent us these photos of the real bullitt 559 on display at a car show he is attending out of state....go canes!!!
Title: Re: Fresh off the press Bullitt 559 photos at car show now
Post by: deathsled on August 24, 2019, 06:44:42 PM
Thank you for posting!  I can hear Lalo Schifrin's music just looking at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twWzxZAiZvI

^^^^^
Shifting Gears extended.

I used to play a tape recording of this in my 69 Mustang coupe when I was 16 years old.
Title: Re: Fresh off the press Bullitt 559 photos at car show now
Post by: deathsled on August 24, 2019, 07:04:56 PM
Gas Monkey chase scene reenacted.  The Bullitt chase still gets my blood racing.  Well done effort by Gas Monkey.  Man those cars still catch air in San Fran.  And many of the areas are still the same as 1968...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGiwESoX4Gc

Title: Re: Fresh off the press Bullitt 559 photos at car show now
Post by: Bigfoot on August 24, 2019, 10:33:47 PM
They missed the clicking of the “seat belts” moment in the Dodge which was a quintessential moment in the original
And so easy to replicate
And the Dodge never smashed into a parked car...
Title: Re: Fresh off the press Bullitt 559 photos at car show now
Post by: FL SAAC on August 25, 2019, 09:15:28 AM
simply quintessential

They missed the clicking of the “seat belts” moment in the Dodge which was a quintessential moment in the original
And so easy to replicate
And the Dodge never smashed into a parked car...
Title: Re: Fresh off the press Bullitt 559 photos at car show now
Post by: FL SAAC on August 25, 2019, 08:04:21 PM
Thank you for posting!  I can hear Lalo Schifrin's music just looking at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twWzxZAiZvI

^^^^^
Shifting Gears extended.

I used to play a tape recording of this in my 69 Mustang coupe when I was 16 years old.

and steve sez....
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on September 05, 2019, 07:28:35 AM
the car on tour until the mecum january auction in  kissimmee fl
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on September 05, 2019, 07:30:38 AM
the car on tour until the mecum january auction in  kissimmee fl
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on September 05, 2019, 07:31:29 AM
the car on tour until the mecum january auction in  kissimmee fl
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on November 08, 2019, 04:52:58 PM
and this tag right here, national historic vehicle register no. 21 is one of the reasons this car will bring big money, Bullitt 559  !
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned in 2020 Mecum
Post by: deathsled on November 08, 2019, 07:08:49 PM
and this tag right here, national historic vehicle register no. 21 is one of the reasons this car will bring big money, Bullitt 559  !

Correct.
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT #559 driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned 2020 Mecum
Post by: Dkutz on November 09, 2019, 12:03:47 AM
It's at Sema this week
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT #559 driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on January 03, 2020, 10:01:17 AM
559
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT #559 driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on January 03, 2020, 10:03:42 AM
559
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT #559 driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on January 03, 2020, 10:05:58 AM
559 the money shot...the historical TAG
Title: Re: 1968 Mustang GT #559 driven by Steve McQueen Bullit to be auctioned 2020 Mecum
Post by: FL SAAC on January 03, 2020, 10:07:28 AM
559