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Title: dash VIN plate
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 17, 2019, 02:15:39 PM
When Shelby renumbered the dash plate, what did they do about getting the PROPER rivets?  Does anyone reproduce those rivets now? I want to remove my dash VIN for having the striped down body media blasted and then need the proper rivets to put it back together.
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: Chris Thauberger on August 17, 2019, 02:49:42 PM
What year are you referring to?

Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: TOBKOB on August 17, 2019, 04:23:38 PM
Shelby didn't renumber the dash vin plate... :)

TOB
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 17, 2019, 05:34:58 PM
Quote from: TOBKOB on August 17, 2019, 04:23:38 PM
Shelby didn't renumber the dash vin plate... :)

TOB
I believe OP is referring to the added 1970 Shelby dash VIN plate.
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: TOBKOB on August 17, 2019, 10:21:30 PM
QuoteI believe OP is referring to the added 1970 Shelby dash VIN plate.
Bob, I assumed the OP was asking about a 69 since his other questions have been about a 69 GT500 but we both know what assume spells...  ;D

TOB
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 18, 2019, 07:29:30 AM
You are correct that I do refer to the 69.  Sorry for the confusion, and Yes I am referring to the added VIN plate.  But the real question is, where can I obtain the correct rivets?
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: TOBKOB on August 18, 2019, 09:02:58 AM
The dash vin plate was installed at Ford but I don't know if you can buy the correct rivets. I remember a few years ago that someone had a limited number available but I think it is a security reason(fraud) that they aren't generally available to the public. Someone with more knowledge can chime in.

TOB
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: roddster on August 18, 2019, 12:39:51 PM
  That is correct.  Back in the sixties there was a lot of car theft issues.  So, the government had the manufacturers make special rivets.  How about trying to cover your current plate before the media blaster has at it.
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 19, 2019, 07:23:50 AM
I will try to cover the plate.  What was special about the rivet?  What do they look like?
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: roddster on August 20, 2019, 02:45:00 PM
  Well, I'm wondering why you are asking.  Has it already been taken off?

    Anyway, it looks like a pop rivet with rounded eight points
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 21, 2019, 07:33:08 AM
I was looking to remove it before it went to media blasting. I can do my best to protect it, but thought it better to remove and replace.
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: Coralsnake on August 21, 2019, 07:47:29 AM
Its called a rosette rivet and it is available
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 21, 2019, 10:53:25 AM
Thanks Coralsnake.  Can you tell me where I can obtain them?
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: Coralsnake on August 21, 2019, 11:17:16 AM
There are several vendors online, just do a search. i would guess AMK products also carries them

I have not seen enough 1969 rivets to know, but the earlier cars just used a regular rivet
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 21, 2019, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 17, 2019, 02:15:39 PM
When Shelby renumbered the dash plate, what did they do about getting the PROPER rivets?  Does anyone reproduce those rivets now? I want to remove my dash VIN for having the striped down body media blasted and then need the proper rivets to put it back together.
When I had my car stripped I never had them blast that area. I have not seem 69s that had problems in that area. I MADE SURE that the upper cowl and firewall were not done as I have my original sealers still on it-can't get more factory than that. Does your firewall upper windshield area need work? I left the windshield in my car when it was blasted and kept the fact paint and blackout on that area as well as most of the firewall. Gary
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 21, 2019, 11:25:29 AM
I'm not aware of 69s using some special rivet like Rosette rivets I have seen on Corvettes. I have torn down a lot of Mustangs and even my 68 Mustang Bullitt car had the dash vin pried off if it and looked to have standard rivets left with the corners of the VIN. Gary
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 21, 2019, 01:00:51 PM
The car is surprisingly clean and rust free. The previous owner did make some modifications and unfortunately repainted (with a color change) the whole car. I want to just start from scratch and redo the car.
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 22, 2019, 04:54:38 PM
Quote from: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 21, 2019, 01:00:51 PM
The car is surprisingly clean and rust free. The previous owner did make some modifications and unfortunately repainted (with a color change) the whole car. I want to just start from scratch and redo the car.
Technically removing a VIN plate even for resto purposes is considered illegal I have been told. I would mask off the original wrapping the plate with something that ill not stick to it then duct tape the whole piece to protect.
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: TLea on August 23, 2019, 08:09:00 AM
 Altering  a tag is  illegal not removing and replacing.  Given the nature of most media blasters there is no way I would ever send a car out to be media blasted or her body and paint with the original tag in it   
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: Coralsnake on August 23, 2019, 10:16:25 AM
I have to agree. I have heard several horror stories of destroyed tags by over zealous media blasters. I have to believe intent plays into he statutes.

If its your car and the tag is removed for clean up and replaced, there is no malicious intent. Totally different from, say a rebody.

The previous comments were not made by an attorney   ;D
Title: Re: dash VIN plate
Post by: shelbymann1970 on August 25, 2019, 08:12:10 AM
Quote from: TLea on August 23, 2019, 08:09:00 AM
Altering  a tag is  illegal not removing and replacing.  Given the nature of most media blasters there is no way I would ever send a car out to be media blasted or her body and paint with the original tag in it
Thanks for the clarification.