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Title: Shelby VIN info
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 21, 2019, 12:11:19 PM
When the base Mustang went to Shelby, Shelby reassigned a NEW VIN - CORRECT?  Will the NEW vin have any of the same numbers as the Ford original? I am asking in order to relate the build sheet to the SHELBY vin plate. IF the build sheet has the original FORD VIN info, how do you verify the specific car teat now has a SHELBY VIN number that does/may not match?
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Richstang on August 21, 2019, 12:28:53 PM
You need to specify which year you are asking about...
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 21, 2019, 12:37:57 PM
I forgot - sorry.  This is for a 69 GT500. Built at Dearborn, 6/19/1969
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Richstang on August 21, 2019, 12:48:34 PM
That helps,
:)

The Ford VINs were different (and hidden) on 1965-1967 Shelby's.
By 1968 I thought they were one in the same.

Others who know more should chime shortly...
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Bill on August 21, 2019, 12:50:24 PM
By 69 Shelby was using the Ford VIN only
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 21, 2019, 01:02:46 PM
If in 69 Shelby used the Ford VIN, then the build sheet will match the VIN on the car- correct?
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Coralsnake on August 21, 2019, 01:49:17 PM
There is only one assigned VIN per car in 1969. Ford assigned the VIN. All Shelby VINs use the code "48" as the sixth and seventh digits. There are no other VINs for 1969 Shelbys, other than the one FORD assigned.

It is possible you have a build sheet from another car, as they were discarded randomly on the production lines. They were often left under carpets or stuffed in seat springs.

I have seen as many as two dozen different sheets in a single car.
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: TOBKOB on August 21, 2019, 05:21:52 PM
[quoteThere is only one assigned VIN per car in 1969. Ford assigned the VIN. All Shelby VINs use the code "48" as the sixth and seventh digits. There are no other VINs for 1969 Shelbys, other than the one FORD assigned.][/quote]

Pete is correct.. :)

TOB
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 22, 2019, 08:56:44 AM
Does anyone have a LEGIBLE copy of a 1969 Dearborn (if it matters) build sheet that they could post? The aged build sheet I have is nearly impossible to read for sections A and part of B.  It is browned out in these areas over the years. I can read partial numbers in the individual blocks but don't know what those blocks represent. Example; Section B - REAR AXLE - TAG 99816(?) - I believe it says CODE 4S?.  It would really help if i knew what the core box information was. A BLANK build sheet would be wonderful, if anyone has one
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: TOBKOB on August 22, 2019, 09:02:35 AM
Larry, you might want to read this article and see if you can read yours. Build sheets were for individual cars and a sheet for another car might or might not match your car.   ;)

TOB
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on August 22, 2019, 09:26:42 AM
Thanks TOB and I do realize that, but all i need is the information that would be on a blank build/broadcast sheet for a 1969 passenger car.  I HAVE most of MY SPECIFIC numbers available and somewhat legible, but cannot read (in a small portion of my build sheet) what those numbers refer to
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Coralsnake on August 22, 2019, 09:31:17 AM
(http://www.thecoralsnake.com/2539buildsheet.jpg)
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Bill on August 22, 2019, 09:50:32 AM
What are the last 6 numbers of your cars VIN ?
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Coralsnake on August 22, 2019, 10:32:08 AM
He is 483098
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Special Ed on August 22, 2019, 11:54:18 AM
The build sheet in petes post is my purple shelby and its a special order car (for specialed) so its different than most other shelbys  the paint section is blank  and the bottom remarks section is unique to this car only m32j-3204 means special order paint 69 t-bird  midnight orchid mettalic .    Dont know why it says hood fenders since they were fiberglass installed at a o smith or did they paint the fiberglass shelby parts at dearborn when they painted the rest of the car since it was special order paint since a o smith didnt have any purple paint in stock or did ford send purple paint with the car to a o smith for the fiberglass  anybody know?  Also the reason why so many build sheets have a piece of paper missing along the top is where they were taped to the car somewhere then ripped off and thrown in the floorboard on dearborn cars anyway.
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 22, 2019, 05:07:50 PM
Quote from: Special Ed on August 22, 2019, 11:54:18 AM
The build sheet in petes post is my purple shelby and its a special order car (for specialed) so its different than most other shelbys  the paint section is blank  and the bottom remarks section is unique to this car only m32j-3204 means special order paint 69 t-bird  midnight orchid mettalic .    Dont know why it says hood fenders since they were fiberglass installed at a o smith or did they paint the fiberglass shelby parts at dearborn when they painted the rest of the car since it was special order paint since a o smith didnt have any purple paint in stock or did ford send purple paint with the car to a o smith for the fiberglass  anybody know?  Also the reason why so many build sheets have a piece of paper missing along the top is where they were taped to the car somewhere then ripped off and thrown in the floorboard on dearborn cars anyway.
Ed when my 70 "Grabber Purple" ;) GT500 was painted at Ford and the Ford documents indicate paint was sent to AO Smith so that the fenders, hood,valance and trunklid could be painted at AO Smith.  That is the way it was documented to have been done for my car at least . Given the parts were already at AO Smith and not at Ford would logically make it simpler to send the paint needed to AO Smith rather then to transport those large Shelby fiberglass components back to Ford to have painted . Also the way the front end was assembled ,painted and personal with the expertise to install it in one piece would indicate a very high likelihood of painting at Smith. I don't know if your car was done the same way or not.   
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Coralsnake on August 22, 2019, 05:34:31 PM
Barney and Friends are here to confuse the new guy.  ;) lol

Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 22, 2019, 06:14:39 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 22, 2019, 05:34:31 PM
Barney and Friends are here to confuse the new guy.  ;) lol
Your right off topic. Sorry for my part. Blame Spec Ed he is a easy target  :D .
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Coralsnake on August 22, 2019, 06:37:33 PM
Still funny....
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Special Ed on August 23, 2019, 12:52:37 AM
My purple car was SPECIAL ORDER PAINT  just look at all my paperwork  and buildsheet. Mr gaines car was a paint mistake and where in any ford paperwork was grabber purple ever printed and what does buildsheet say??
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 23, 2019, 10:18:01 AM
Quote from: Special Ed on August 23, 2019, 12:52:37 AM
My purple car was SPECIAL ORDER PAINT  just look at all my paperwork  and buildsheet. Mr gaines car was a paint mistake and where in any ford paperwork was grabber purple ever printed and what does buildsheet say??
Ed, Lighten up Francis  https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-pty-pty_maps&hsimp=yhs-pty_maps&hspart=pty&p=lighten+up+francis#id  Of course the Grabber Purple was said tongue in cheek . WT 9083 does not have a name just a fleet color number.
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Bill on August 23, 2019, 12:20:10 PM
 Bob/Ed,

   Do we have to separate you two? Don't make us stop the car and come back there :D
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: TOBKOB on August 23, 2019, 12:32:07 PM
QuoteBob/Ed,

   Do we have to separate you two? Don't make us stop the car and come back there :D

LOL

TOB
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: Bob Gaines on August 23, 2019, 01:48:10 PM
Ed's just pissy because he is homesick (in Africa and South America trip) and me I'm jealous because he got to go and I didn't.
Title: Re: Shelby VIN info
Post by: JohnB on August 23, 2019, 05:09:11 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on August 23, 2019, 01:48:10 PM
Ed's just pissy because he is homesick (in Africa and South America trip) and me I'm jealous because he got to go and I didn't.

Maybe because he did not find any Shelbys....?  ::)