Hello,
i start a new thread about of the "Magic" Points in Time from the Shelby GT350 ... and even the Ford GT and the 427 Cobra ...
First i have to thank Richstang again for all the support on me and my threads !!!
Well, you surley all know that the GT350 was officilly presented on 27 Januar 1965 on the Riverside Racetrack,
And for sure you know all the Magazines like Road & Track or Car & Driver coming on April or later 1965 on the Market
and the photos from the only Cars are driven around the track.
but for a long Time i found know real Pics about this in Magazines or any Book.
But, when you hit the WWW long enough you get some Breadcumbs and for this Pic is when the hole magic
is beginning...
(https://abload.de/img/19650127shelbygt350vo01kw6.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19650127shelbygt350vo01kw6.jpg)
We can see:
7 GT350 Street Cars - Vin´s are unkown but all have Le-Mans Stripe ...
1 GT350 R - identified as 5R002 with painted rear bumber and fresh silver bright wheels
Ford GT with silver wheels - identified as GT/103 or GT/104
Cobra 427 - identified as CSX3002 (first "427" Race Cobra)
Ford Econoline in Two-Tone-Paint ( i love this little van)
some markabale Person like:
-the woman with the Red Jacket and sunglasses
-the man with Sunglasses left from her
-Man with Suit behind
-some Stuff with blue Cobra Shirts
When i saw the pic for the first time, i just was electrified and i like a addict person i want to
the more Pics of this event and the hole Cars together...
but on every main Magazin i looked nothing was to find ... so i tryed more and more research
and found one more breadcumb
RACEWAY - official Publication from Riverside International Raceway - 1st Issue - March 1965
(https://abload.de/img/1965-riverside-racewawtk09.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=1965-riverside-racewawtk09.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/1965-riverside-racewa18kvi.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=1965-riverside-racewa18kvi.jpg)
first i was only looked on the right side and see a GT350 in action
and above a GT350 right behind is that brick yard wall and when have a close look you see the white roof ot this Chevy Bel Air Wagon Car
but on the left side we can see some more interesting stuff like a Race between Ford GT, 427 Cobra and a DAYTONA Coupe we dont
see at the 1st main Pic... and even the Dragginsnake Cobra
(https://abload.de/img/1965-riverside-racewa89jdt.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=1965-riverside-racewa89jdt.jpg)
On this Pic we see two interieurs but without the Cobra Emblem on the steering wheels so it should be a "pre-production" Pic and is
not shooted at the Introduction Event.
So at this Point we can say that some Action was going on and not only the GT350 was involed at the Game.
So what you think about the thread, interessed in more or just some cold coffee
because all know about that Facts and Pics.
Greets Steve
I was born at the wrong time. :-\
Steve:
Keep up the good work. These photos are priceless documentation and many have been unseen. Even if the photo has been published before, you can look at it for more critical details that you might have missed the first or fifth time. Plus internet searches for photos and details aren't always found under the usual search terms like Shelby, GT350 et al. The RIR publication is an obvious example, plus it brings up other questions. Like does anyone know the author's name Eric Hauser?
Man I love the picture!!!
Quote from: Szabo on August 24, 2019, 05:32:14 PM
(https://abload.de/img/19650127shelbygt350vo01kw6.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19650127shelbygt350vo01kw6.jpg)
We can see:
7 GT350 Street Cars - Vin´s are unkown but all have Le-Mans Stripe ...
1 GT350 R - identified as 5R002 with painted rear bumber and fresh silver bright wheels
Ford GT with silver wheels - identified as GT/103 or GT/104
Cobra 427 - identified as CSX3002 (first "427" Race Cobra)
Ford Econoline in Two-Tone-Paint ( i love this little van)
Notice how the Red Stripe comes to a point on the front? That is the first time I seen that.
Hey guys, I've been away on a 35-day road trip and am finally home and getting caught up.
Steve: Great new thread! Sorry I missed contributing to everything that you and Richstang and others have posted while I have been on holiday.
The Riverside Raceway official publication was produced by Petersen Publishing Company, as Robert E. Petersen owned RIR in those days. Notice that the cover photo says "Petersen Pub photo."
Petersen was also a good friend of Carroll's. I traveled with them both many times when I worked for each of them...(late 1980s thru early 2000s.)
I wish I could've been there in the 1960s, but I was in elementary school.
Quote from: tesgt350 on August 24, 2019, 10:35:14 PM
Quote from: Szabo on August 24, 2019, 05:32:14 PM
(https://abload.de/img/19650127shelbygt350vo01kw6.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19650127shelbygt350vo01kw6.jpg)
We can see:
7 GT350 Street Cars - Vin´s are unkown but all have Le-Mans Stripe ...
1 GT350 R - identified as 5R002 with painted rear bumber and fresh silver bright wheels
Ford GT with silver wheels - identified as GT/103 or GT/104
Cobra 427 - identified as CSX3002 (first "427" Race Cobra)
Ford Econoline in Two-Tone-Paint ( i love this little van)
Notice how the Red Stripe comes to a point on the front? That is the first time I seen that.
I just noticed that as well!
We get a hint of that pointed red stripe in this B&W, but the color photo Stephan posted makes it real clear.
NICE COLOR PHOTO Stephan...That was in the 'Ford Times', correct?!
Is that csx2000 in the distance, behind the pit wall. No way of really knowing, but it's a possibility.
(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/204-170318174151-672244.jpeg)
Cool photo.
Looks like Carroll's saying: "Here you have to take the inside line to set up for the next corner...and what are you doing tonight, honey?"
Thanks all for your friendly replies on the thread.
@68countrysedan
Thats right, the usual Terms are not work at when you need a closer look on some details or Points in time ...
i tryed often only some words and find a breadcumb, but the hole thing to find it´s not possible
@Richstangs
my first pic is not see in the Ford Times Magazins i know, i found it on the Internet, but no source admitted.
i notice also the red stripe on the Econoline Van, still had your B/W Photo in Mind, but have no clue when or why this is happend.
@Side-Oiler
Please no Sorry about your answers, i am still happy when someone answers, even after a few days or weeks.
@All
on my Search for more pics of this event i decided to make a completet Magazin Research on every old Magazin from 1964 or 1965 to find online...
at one point i read about a Article in the House Intern Ford Motor Company Magazin called FORD TIMES.
i found both Magazins and was happy again, there was even more pics from the Event
let me say that both Issue was on July and August 1965, what means that Ford was a little Late to promote
the Shelby GT350 ... The first Major Magazin was printed a Story in April 1965.
FORD TIMES, Issue 7 / 1965
(https://abload.de/img/19657fordtimesgt350auboktx.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19657fordtimesgt350auboktx.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/19657fordtimesgt350au1sj67.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19657fordtimesgt350au1sj67.jpg)
we clearly see 5R002 with still fresh silver wheels and painted rear bumper
(funny fact at this point - a street GT350 is not seen in this pic ... )
the other Cars can be identified as white Cobra, Daytona Coupe and Ford GT
on the other side on the Top a well known PR Shoot from David Friedmann
and above an Inside Shoot (with Cobra Emblem on the steering whell, but unkown vin or location where the pic is made)
(https://abload.de/img/19657fordtimesgt350au52k5v.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19657fordtimesgt350au52k5v.jpg)
FORD TIMES, Issue 8 / 1965
in this Issue officilay it goes about the 427 Cobra but when you make a comparsion with the Main Photo from Post 1
you can see all the same Details
(https://abload.de/img/19658fordtimecobra427grjw1.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19658fordtimecobra427grjw1.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/19658fordtimecobra427b8k1s.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19658fordtimecobra427b8k1s.jpg)
we see that for sure it is on Riverside and the Woman in red jacket and the same Car Driver with Sunglasses
and we see CSX3002 from the Side ...
on the other side a very interessting Photo is shown...
(https://abload.de/img/19658fordtimecobra427s3kdr.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19658fordtimecobra427s3kdr.jpg)
we see a pic from this "Mock Race" with:
Daytona Cobra, identiefied as CSX2287,
the Ford GT with silver wheels, identified as GT/103 (GT/104 was deliverd early to SAI, have black wheels and was still modified at this point)
Cobra 427 (RACE) - CSX3002
white 289 Cobra - Vin unkown
GT350R - 5R002
and one of the street GT350 at last (not the best Photo for the introduction of the GT350 as shown in Issue 7 ;D )
[](https://abload.de/image.php?img=19658fordtimecobra427qpk4d.jpg)
on the other side the real new Cobra 427 Street ... Vin still unkown
(https://abload.de/img/19658fordtimecobra427fbkke.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19658fordtimecobra427fbkke.jpg)
Any Thougts about this ???
Greets
Steve
Nice posts with not only the article / photo.s but including the cover is a bonus for anyone who might want to keep an eye out for these issues.
Great work identifying all the cars at the Riverside GT350 introduction in January '65.
It would be nice to know which csx2000 series Cobra that white car is.
I don't have a clue about the 427 Cobra ID. Not enough to see in the article pictures. I'm not even sure what color it is...maybe white or unpainted.
My $0.02 (or 0.018 Euros)...
The color photo of the rear of 5R002 is Turn Nine at RIR...probably after a rainstorm. I can't ever remember seeing green grass in the infield like that. Must have been a rare day.
Wayne Thoms and Ralph Poole were Petersen Publishing contributors, or possibly employees, at the time.
The ad for Larry Reed sports cars in the first set of magazine photos Steve posted is interesting. That Westchester (near LAX) location was later Billy Krause Honda.
Szabo,
Years ago former '65 GT350 production manager , Bruce Junor spoke about this very day. The "plan" was to have 50 GT350s there that day for a "show of force" to the press. Fifty "production" GT350s were prepared and drivers set out in mass toward RIR. One by one , the cars developed engine problems later traced to "soft" camshafts ( poor heat treatment) and didn't complete the trip resulting in the few in your photo. Those in the picture were those that ''made it" ( and some barely made it) . Some were fine and were used for demonstrations. Ford air freighted replacement engines for those that failed. Because of this , SEVERAL early cars have replacement engines without the Ford VIN stamped on them. 5 020 was one of them for sure. SAI kept it hush hush for obvious reasons.
Randy
I'll bet that the crew learned some new swear words from CS that day. The old man must have been livid.
Steve makes this comment relative to the GT350 interior photo in Raceway magazine:
"On this Pic we see two interieurs but without the Cobra Emblem on the steering wheels so it should be a "pre-production" Pic and is not shooted at the Introduction Event."
Allow me to offer some insight on this. Shelby apparently had not yet received quantities of certain parts by the time the advanced prototypes were completed. I have the good fortune to have a copy of the "build sheet" for my car, 5006. I attached it. If you go to page 4, there is a handwritten notation "shipped short" on the line item "Escutcheon - Horn button". The sheet is dated Jan 15 '65. This suggests that certain parts may not have been installed on the cars at the press preview.
Just another nuance in the world of early Shelby activity. Since 006 has its original engine, I can entertain the notion that it was one of the cars that "made it" to the press preview, so it may well be among those in the group photo. To me that is very cool, as is this thread. Thanks Steve!
Quote from: Side-Oilers on August 25, 2019, 07:03:20 PM
The color photo of the rear of 5R002 is Turn Nine at RIR...probably after a rainstorm. I can't ever remember seeing green grass in the infield like that. Must have been a rare day.
Looks like turn 9 - but there shouldn't be a pond either. Weather wise here's the record: Rainy season 1965-1966 20.44 inches +5.71 over average One site shows a lot of rain on the 24th but none for the rest of the month.
Yes, I thought the same about the pond. Thanks for the weather/rain info.
Quote from: gt350hr on August 26, 2019, 12:34:20 PM
Years ago former '65 GT350 production manager , Bruce Junor spoke about this very day. The "plan" was to have 50 GT350s there that day for a "show of force" to the press. Fifty "production" GT350s were prepared and drivers set out in mass toward RIR. One by one , the cars developed engine problems later traced to "soft" camshafts ( poor heat treatment) and didn't complete the trip resulting in the few in your photo. Those in the picture were those that ''made it" ( and some barely made it) . Some were fine and were used for demonstrations. Ford air freighted replacement engines for those that failed. Because of this , SEVERAL early cars have replacement engines without the Ford VIN stamped on them. 5 020 was one of them for sure. SAI kept it hush hush for obvious reasons.
For the 1/27/65 introduction at Riverside, only 12 street cars had been completed by then. The 50th street car wasn't completed until middle of March.
Thanks Charles , I can only repeat the story he told to the group of us and wasn't qualified to challenge him then or now. Thank you for the information.
Randy
Quote from: gt350hr on August 27, 2019, 11:23:08 AM
Thanks Charles , I can only repeat the story he told top the group of us and wasn't qualified to challenge him then or now. Thank you for the information.
Randy
Maybe he got the Riverside display mixed up with another event or the moving of cars to the LAX facility.
Is Bruce still around?
Charles: That could be.
I figured that if 50 cars were needed to be transported to RIR, Shelby would've gotten transport trucks rather than risking all the "what ifs" of having 50 people (!~!) drive them. Not to mention putting 150+ miles on each car, for the round trip.
Thank a lot for your massiv replys and this wonderfull input in the thread ...
an unkown fact for me was that not all cars have all parts on her production installed ... sound like there was a lot of
hectic to make the job done...
i really thougt that on the Introduction Day all Cars was make in perfect condition because the photos
running complete over the hole USA and even outside.
i really think there was no 50 Cars on RIR, but maybe a lot are making for the first LAX shoot i know ...
i came with some more Magazin shoots.
The Magazine sometimes mix pics from S003 (first street Shelby) and even the Shelby they drove on
the event...
but i find some pics where more then one Shelby was shown or even because the backround we clearly
see the pic was made on RIR
Mustang a Complete Guide (Car Life Special Edition) 5 / 1965
(https://abload.de/img/mustangacompleteguideytj5z.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=mustangacompleteguideytj5z.jpg)
the Frontcover shows clearly RIR with a Shelby GT350 but also a GT Convertible, on my Sheby Buildings Carter Ave Thread
was spoken that the GT Option was not on the Market on the Introduction Day ...
so it not clear when the Pic was really shooted..
the other Pic from Inside shows cleary the Ford GT and 5R002 on RIR ...
(https://abload.de/img/mustangacompleteguiderakwg.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=mustangacompleteguiderakwg.jpg)
Speed & Custom 06 / 1965
(https://abload.de/img/sac_65-06_001pnks9.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=sac_65-06_001pnks9.jpg)
is a good example for mixing pics from different events or shooting,
on the two little pics from left corner above we see 5R002 (silver bright wheels) and two more Pics standing in the row behind
the rest shows 5S003 on the very early LAX shooting...
a little bit wondering about the Steelies shown on the driving Shelby, it is not 5S003 but a good example that on RIR all knows cars
have Le Mans Stripes but not all have Cragar mounted
(https://abload.de/img/sac_65-06_002wek2h.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=sac_65-06_002wek2h.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/sac_65-06_003ikkln.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=sac_65-06_003ikkln.jpg)
Quote from: Szabo on August 27, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
is a good example for mixing pics from different events or shooting,
on the two little pics from left corner above we see 5R002 (silver bright wheels) and two more Pics standing in the row behind
the rest shows 5S003 on the very early LAX shooting...
Only the last pic is 003.
The open hood engine bay pic is believed to be 5007. 003 was the only street car produced without an export brace, so easy to rule out in photos.
Quote from: CharlesTurner on August 27, 2019, 08:05:04 PM
Quote from: Szabo on August 27, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
is a good example for mixing pics from different events or shooting,
on the two little pics from left corner above we see 5R002 (silver bright wheels) and two more Pics standing in the row behind
the rest shows 5S003 on the very early LAX shooting...
Only the last pic is 003.
The open hood engine bay pic is believed to be 5007. 003 was the only street car produced without an export brace, so easy to rule out in photos.
Yes 5S003, that little "GT350" sticker on the front fender is another clue.
Fantastic magazine covers and articles Stephan!
You come up with some have never seen before, like the "
Winternationals" issue.
Thanks for sharing!
8)
John Timanus ( rip) at the wheel in the static picture. Ran the racing school for a while.
Quote from: gt350hr on August 28, 2019, 12:42:30 PM
John Timanus ( rip) at the wheel in the static picture. Ran the racing school for a while.
He's also in the Riverside display photo, behind the car next to the dark hair lady. Also in the photo with CS showing the track layout, in the background, probably P Brock standing next to him.
Charles ,
I believe Bruce is still around . I will look into it as your information has my curiosity fired up.
Randy
Ladies and gentlemen we just got out of the premiere of Ford versus Ferrari of the Toronto international film Festival. Christian Bale was outstanding as Ken Miles and Matt Damon did a pretty good job particularly with the accent for a short guy who is a liberal. I think you guys are gonna love it the photography is fantastic at Willow Springs and what looks a lot like Riverside has it then was I hope y'all enjoy it.
Kim and Lisa
Hello again,
after the last post i had some mental stress problems and a busy life so i was not
able to continue the thread(s) in the same speed as befor...
but with some time by my own and the found of some new information and pics,
and even the Film "LeMans66" i want to continue the thread because i am still
facinated.
For the first i became a pair of pics from my friend George Watters from
a Ford Times Magazin.
(https://abload.de/img/fordtimesgt35020tjyy.jpeg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=fordtimesgt35020tjyy.jpeg)
we can see clearly the two person from the Pics from the other Ford Times Articel 8 / 1965,
the man with the white jacket and the the Lady in Red.
above on the track wee see the a GT350 (propaly R-Model) and the 427 Race Cobra Prototyp
CSX3002
(https://abload.de/img/georgewatterscollectihqjh1.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=georgewatterscollectihqjh1.jpg)
on the other Pic wee can se GT / 103 on the Riverside Racetrack who was very decorated
on the Start/Finish Line.
So i hope you have still some interest in that thread ...
Greets from Germany and merry X-Mas
Steve / Stephan
Szabo, great to see you back :) your threads are very interesting and garner a lot of comments and discussion. The GT40 photo in your latest post is wonderful.
Mike
The guy in sunglasses and driving 3002 is John Timanus. He had the Shelby van (and trailer) used for the school. Also in the multi car picture at Riverside is the "unmistakable"(red haired) Ron Butler and to the right (I believe) is one of the Agapou brothers. I think jack Aylesbury is there too.
Randy
Here are some other photos taken at Riverside on that day.
Thanks for the Pics, truly from the Event
I found some more ...
the first struggle me for a long time in my research time...
I found it on the Web, and it was named that it was on the Introduction Event,
but for some unkown Reason i won´t believe that.
On the web everybody can write anything.
(https://abload.de/img/5r00265-1-27aintroducstjzf.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=5r00265-1-27aintroducstjzf.jpg)
but for 2 Days i found a 100% Time correct Proof that the first Pic was taken
on the Event...
in the Autoweek / Competition Week Issue from 27 February 1965 there was a
pretty similar Pic from C.S. on the Event
--- same Jacket, same fleet, same bracelet, same
haircut and of course the same snake ---
but i think this time that was taken on the grass and not on the hood from the "R"...
Also notice that report about the hot bus lap and there was about 50 Reporter.
Again Autoweek / Competition Week was the first who has a Pic and a report from
the Event...
of course in a newspaper the news come faster as on magazine like Road & Track
or others.
but at this point in my research the AW was the first who drives in a GT350, post
a pic from the GT350 and write about the RIR Event...
(https://abload.de/img/19650227h8kpz.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19650227h8kpz.jpg)
the hole article as PDF
https://s3-prod.autoweek.com/s3fs-public/19650227-NEWS--0013-NAT-CCI-AW_--_3976525.PDF
Nice photos everyone. It looks like the snake charmer is working his magic on the hood of 5R002. (I don't see a vent window on the door)
Quote from: 2112 on August 24, 2019, 07:07:55 PM
I was born at the wrong time. :-\
I hit it just right - 1950 in Michigan son of GM tool maker and midget racer nephew of engineer at Ford's Cleveland foundry. Grandson of builder of many prototype trucks and racer of motorcycles who was Amer Motorcycle Assn member #12. Moved to SoCal 1952 father worked as aerospace engineer and bought me a 1/4 midget at 5. I traded that for a 1928 Dodge in 8th grade. Our Boy Scout troop took posters all over town for races at Riverside and we got in free. The first GT350 I saw was a 65 parked next to a snack bar in the esses. Love at first sight/sound. I remember going to see the GM Parade of Progress with the Futureliners. Getting my dad to take me to see the new Sting Ray (my grail car at the time). Seeing and hearing the Chrysler Turbine car at the local shopping center. Seeing the Mustang at the NY Worlds Fair and taking the Ford ride. Gas Ronda's car and he at the Ford dealer. Big time drag racers and cars visiting high school at the dawn of the AFX and Funny Car era. Seeing GT350Hs while passing Hertz store taking dad to LAX for work trips - never could get him to rent one for me. I guess the best part was the cars were being used as intended and not trailered anywhere. They were rode hard and put away wet. Day two mods were the norm not a sin.
Right time right place all the stars aligned etc etc etc.
+ 1 Beautifully expressed
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on December 28, 2019, 02:32:37 PM
Quote from: 2112 on August 24, 2019, 07:07:55 PM
I was born at the wrong time. :-\
I hit it just right - 1950 in Michigan son of GM tool maker and midget racer nephew of engineer at Ford's Cleveland foundry. Grandson of builder of many prototype trucks and racer of motorcycles who was Amer Motorcycle Assn member #12. Moved to SoCal 1952 father worked as aerospace engineer and bought me a 1/4 midget at 5. I traded that for a 1928 Dodge in 8th grade. Our Boy Scout troop took posters all over town for races at Riverside and we got in free. The first GT350 I saw was a 65 parked next to a snack bar in the esses. Love at first sight/sound. I remember going to see the GM Parade of Progress with the Futureliners. Getting my dad to take me to see the new Sting Ray (my grail car at the time). Seeing and hearing the Chrysler Turbine car at the local shopping center. Seeing the Mustang at the NY Worlds Fair and taking the Ford ride. Gas Ronda's car and he at the Ford dealer. Big time drag racers and cars visiting high school at the dawn of the AFX and Funny Car era. Seeing GT350Hs while passing Hertz store taking dad to LAX for work trips - never could get him to rent one for me. I guess the best part was the cars were being used as intended and not trailered anywhere. They were rode hard and put away wet. Day two mods were the norm not a sin.
Right time right place all the stars aligned etc etc etc.
Is the same event ? from a French magazine L'Automobile, April 1965, not sure if there are any new images
from what Szabo has already posted ?
Mike
After a long time i was able to get some new content
for more than only one pic or post
so take a seat, fasten you seatbelts and we will
turn the key
first i have to thank HONKER for the last post
of the french magazin
Very Good post with some very good early Pics from 5R002
from the day with some break dust on the front wheels
but clearly see the bright shining wheels
also i dont see the a pic bevor where two Shelbys was on the raceway
the street GT350 was not make on the track, i would love to see the
License Plate to have some research ( i know that is not bulletproofed thing)
i also find a German and Swiss Car Test with Similar Pics from Track and Street
but i have to do some research on that.
For today i will a post a Car Test from
CARS - the Automotive Magazine July 1965
BIG THANK to Richstang for the pics, he always support me
on every thread and research infos. Thank you my Friend
(https://abload.de/img/1xwj6d.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=1xwj6d.jpg)
this time only Street GT350`s shown on the track,
(https://abload.de/img/seite25kgjrx.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=seite25kgjrx.jpg)
most of the other pics and text are very technically and shows wireing, mufflers
brake stuff
(https://abload.de/img/seite28uqj53.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=seite28uqj53.jpg)
but for me the most important pic is showing CS standing befor a row of GT350,
surely a Introduction Pic, in bright colour and the same like on the other pics,
suit, haircut, the Cobra and the fleet ... STRIKE again.
(https://abload.de/img/seite27wiksg.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=seite27wiksg.jpg)
important notice: first i was stunning to see the Mustang emblem on the left side ...
i read about that is happend somtimes but i was very skeptical to see
the steering wheel from the next GT350 on the left side
So it was very clear: The Pic was mirrored for the use in the magazine
i reversed it and can see and decide some notice:
- next to the Street Car stands 5R002; see the Plexiglas side Window lip, the rollcage and very little the big front opening
- same CS like on the other pics, but in beautiful colour
- third Pic shows CS standing different (5R002, GT40, Econoline)(CS on the Gras with fleet)(CS and GT350 in a row)
- it stands like the same point like the first pic i showed in the Thread, except the first street standing closley to 5R002
(https://abload.de/img/xx30kyi.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=xx30kyi.jpg)
(https://abload.de/img/19650127shelbygt350vovpkyr.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=19650127shelbygt350vovpkyr.jpg)
What do you think, share your thoughts.
Nope ! Turn eight. You have to remember where the Mountains were. The second picture without water is turn 9. Sorry I spent too much time there LOL
Thanks for your answer,
very good that you know Riverside perfectly, i didnt
Maybe you can explain me which Pics are from which point or turn on Riverside ...
(https://abload.de/img/riverside-63imkto.gif) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=riverside-63imkto.gif)
Meanwhile i find another Car Magazin,
gladfully in German again, magazin is the Major Label in Germany
Auto, Motor und Sport, March 1965
(in English = Car, Engine and Sport)
(https://abload.de/img/screenshot_2020-10-19zej9p.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=screenshot_2020-10-19zej9p.jpg)
looks like the same spot on RR and pretty the same Point in Time, just a few Moments later
from the Pic fron HONKER / L`Automobile
(https://abload.de/img/screenshot_2020-10-19qjkgs.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=screenshot_2020-10-19qjkgs.jpg)
the other Site and Pic shows the well known 5S003 on LAX, driven by Timanus
(https://abload.de/img/screenshot_2020-10-19w9k88.jpg) (https://abload.de/image.php?img=screenshot_2020-10-19w9k88.jpg)
The one of the R model turning right is turn 8 not the "short" 8A as we used to call it right about where the 8 IS on your map. The "static" picture of 003 is a staged photo with John Timanus( rip) at the wheel.