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The Cars => 1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 => Topic started by: Stubee on February 18, 2018, 10:50:19 PM

Title: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on February 18, 2018, 10:50:19 PM
The placement and tidy appearance of the power steering lines on these cars seems to vary.
Does anyone have a good set of photos for this?

I have seen some cars where the "loops" are seen well down past the bottom of the car floorpan line.

It also seems that there are special line stainless steel line fasteners to hold the lines in place in some of the photos i've  seen. Are those "correct" If so where can they be purchased?

Open for any tips and suggestions.

Many thanks,

Stubee

Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 18, 2018, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: Stubee on February 18, 2018, 10:50:19 PM
The placement and tidy appearance of the power steering lines on these cars seems to vary.
Does anyone have a good set of photos for this?

I have seen some cars where the "loops" are seen well down past the bottom of the car floorpan line.

It also seems that there are special line stainless steel line fasteners to hold the lines in place in some of the photos i've  seen. Are those "correct" If so where can they be purchased?

Open for any tips and suggestions.

Many thanks,

Stubee
The two lines (pressure and return ) did not hang down from the factory. They should be parallel to the ground . The adjustment has to do with how the lines are installed on the control valve ,the screw clamp (think hose clamp) that holds them in place (on the control valve body)  and the way the upper pressure hose is connected (twisted while tightening) at the rubber hose block.
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Special Ed on February 18, 2018, 11:03:48 PM
we have the worm drive clamps original type & #16  this clamps when installed properly hold p/s hoses in place so they dont hang down   nate  sells them on our ebay store
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on February 18, 2018, 11:32:44 PM
Thank you Bob and Ed! Great info and timely too.

Dang Ed... there you go.. I have to contact Nate again!

Is it one or two of these clamps needed?

Thanks for the great help gents.

Stubee
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on February 19, 2018, 12:00:50 AM
From what I can see it looks like only one is needed.

Hope thatbis correct.

Stubee
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Special Ed on February 19, 2018, 12:25:53 AM
one
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on February 19, 2018, 01:10:40 AM
Thanks Ed. Ordered it.
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on February 19, 2018, 08:19:00 AM
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Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on February 19, 2018, 08:22:48 AM
I was looking at this original photo of a 1969 GT 350. The lines seem to loop down a bit more then I was expecting.

I have seen other shots where guys have been able to get them more horizontal as Bob and Ed said.

Thanks for the advice. I will make the adjustments to the lines.

Stubee
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: shelbydoug on February 19, 2018, 08:27:09 AM
My remark would be that all of the power steering cars have hoses that are noticeable.

I think that original assembly line hoses have alignment marks on them that are used to position the hoses where they will be as high as you can get them?

That is a detail that is often but not always lost in the replacement of the originals.
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on February 19, 2018, 08:39:51 AM
Roger that. I will take a closer look.

Thank you for the insight.

Stubee
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Bob Gaines on February 19, 2018, 05:42:17 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 19, 2018, 08:27:09 AM
My remark would be that all of the power steering cars have hoses that are noticeable.

I think that original assembly line hoses have alignment marks on them that are used to position the hoses where they will be as high as you can get them?

That is a detail that is often but not always lost in the replacement of the originals.
The assemblyine manuals mention and show the yellow alignment marks. Sometimes the replacement hoses have the marks and sometimes not. I will say that it is good to have a second person to help when tightening the upper and lower pressure hose at the junction. It takes three hands. One to twist the lower hose and hold it in the parallel to the ground position .  One to tighten the nut and one more to hold the upper pressure hose in the correct position
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on February 19, 2018, 08:36:10 PM
Thank you Bob. I am going to give it a try.
I really appreciate these tips more then you could know.

Awesome help,

Stubee
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on March 16, 2018, 02:07:38 PM
Thank you everyone for the help on this.

I was able to achieve and good result with them more parallel with the ground.. The clamp was missing so I installed the one from Special Ed and it did the trick.

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Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Bob Gaines on March 16, 2018, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: Stubee on March 16, 2018, 02:07:38 PM
Thank you everyone for the help on this.

I was able to achieve and good result with them more parallel with the ground.. The clamp was missing so I installed the one from Special Ed and it did the trick.

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Good job.
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: shelbydoug on May 12, 2018, 04:56:29 PM
Quote from: Stubee on March 16, 2018, 02:07:38 PM
Thank you everyone for the help on this.

I was able to achieve and good result with them more parallel with the ground.. The clamp was missing so I installed the one from Special Ed and it did the trick.

(//)

That looks pretty good and pretty original as I recall. +1 on the nice job.
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Bob Gaines on May 12, 2018, 05:12:02 PM
I was reviewing your picture from this thread and it brought to mind the tie rod adjusting clamps that can be seen in your picture (passenger side) . The driver side are not in view but unlike the passenger side it is very important that the clamps are rotated a certain way on the driver side. They need to be rotated so that the bolts are on the front side of the tie rod with the bolts pointed up and down. This is because if they are on rotated to the back side of the tie rod a part of the bolt (because it sticks out) can come into contact with the power control valve while the tie rods move side to side in the turning process. This can cause a steering binding situation while wearing a groove into the side of the power control valve. It doesn't matter which way it is on the passenger side just the driver side . This is a Factory Ford engineering directive which is also covered in the assemblyline manual. I have seen more power control valve cores ruined (at least for concours) then I care to remember because they have various degrees of grooves worn into the side of the power control valve. This is only applicable to 67-70 Shelby because they are the only ones that came with PS from the factory.   
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on May 12, 2018, 11:13:13 PM
Thanks Bob and ShelbyDoug.

I just checked the tie rod orientation on the driver's side and it is just as you described Bob.

A very good detail to be aware of and easy to miss.

I can't seem to get pics up anymore but your description was right on.

Stubee
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: shelbydoug on May 13, 2018, 07:39:26 AM
Is it Stub ee, or is it Stu bee?
Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: Stubee on May 13, 2018, 07:18:26 PM
Lol.. the difference a space can make :)

Stu...Bee for me.

Title: Re: 1970 GT 350 Power Steering Lines
Post by: shelbydoug on May 13, 2018, 08:30:50 PM
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