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Title: The Movie
Post by: rkm on September 10, 2019, 07:13:32 AM
Lisa and I just saw it at the Toronto International Film Festival. It was FANTASTIC.

Now they need to do the sequel, "The Cobra Story".

It will win Oscars. Check it out.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: sfm5s081 on September 20, 2019, 01:00:03 AM
I'm planning on seeing it 2x! The first time with the Shelby crew and the second time with the Ferrari club. Can't wait until it hits on Nov 15
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: deathsled on September 20, 2019, 10:59:14 AM
^^^^^^
How did you pull that off???
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: 6R07mi on September 20, 2019, 12:47:06 PM
The UK Guardian review of the movie pans it as "handsomely produced but tiringly acted and inert sports drama about two good ol' boys from the self-admiring world of motor racing", and "it is crammed with unearned emotional moments and factory-built male characters whose dedication to their sport we are expected to find adorable and heroic by turns. This is a standard-issue, middleweight biopic-type film.....this blandly sentimental movie, which can't reach out beyond the petrolhead fanbase".

Perhaps the Brit's don't like us "petrolheads",  ..... as I recall we whup'd them twice ! 1776 & 1812....  8)

regards,

jim p
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: deathsled on September 20, 2019, 01:03:54 PM
The Guardian is about as far left on the spectrum as you can get. Any movie these days that makes men out to be capable and competent in what they do is going to be reviled by the leftist media. I take it there were no messages in the movie about female empowerment and how it was a woman that actually built the Ford GT 40. And no doubt a trans gendered Ken Miles won the race. Or a female Bruce McLaren. Or whatever... I'm not a comic book fan but apparently Thor is being replaced by a 120 pound girl as the "God of Thunder." There are few movies for men these days. Ford versus Ferrari is one of those few. I would disregard anything the Guardian has to say. What do any of them at the Guardian know about a combustion engine anyway.  Cars are merely frosted lucky charms that get them from A to B and nothing more.
They can go like hell...to hell!

Best,
Richard E.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 20, 2019, 05:46:48 PM
Sounds like that Guardian review was written by a woman.  Or an ignorant male who never rode in a fast car in his life.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: FL SAAC on September 20, 2019, 06:12:00 PM
just shared this article with these two guys, their only comment was LMAO...

Quote from: 6R07mi on September 20, 2019, 12:47:06 PM
The UK Guardian review of the movie pans it as "handsomely produced but tiringly acted and inert sports drama about two good ol' boys from the self-admiring world of motor racing", and "it is crammed with unearned emotional moments and factory-built male characters whose dedication to their sport we are expected to find adorable and heroic by turns. This is a standard-issue, middleweight biopic-type film.....this blandly sentimental movie, which can't reach out beyond the petrolhead fanbase".

Perhaps the Brit's don't like us "petrolheads",  ..... as I recall we whup'd them twice ! 1776 & 1812....  8)

regards,

jim p
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: rkm on September 20, 2019, 06:56:55 PM
The Guardian doesn't like anything having to to with celebrating your carbon footprint.

Bite me.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: deathsled on September 20, 2019, 07:09:52 PM
Here's the critic. Peter Bradshaw. Public enemy number one in my books.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bradshaw

He was born in 1962. Isn't that when the Cobra first came out? He should know better. He probably played the flute in high school.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: FL SAAC on September 20, 2019, 07:27:19 PM
Quote from: deathsled on September 20, 2019, 07:09:52 PM
Here's the critic. Peter Bradshaw. Public enemy number one in my books.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bradshaw

He was born in 1962. Isn't that when the Cobra first came out? He should know better. He probably played the flute in high school.

possibly accosted at band camp
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: shelbydoug on September 20, 2019, 08:29:11 PM
I've been called a lot of things but this is the first time, "a petrol head". It's amazing how some are so permanently set in their predigest ways and cast me into a stereo type after they bitched about the same thing?

I suspect that this movie is going to be an overwhelming success despite the dance in protest of the silver dust fairies outside of the theater? I wonder if they will remember to clap for Tinkerbell?
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: deathsled on September 20, 2019, 08:40:20 PM
Peter Bradshaw, movie critic for The Guardian.  He gets to review the movie Ford versus Ferrari.  Now I get to review him.  (I had a long diatribe about him here that I was going to publish but deleted it when I got to thinking the legal implications of any alleged slander/ libel if it ever came to light).  Truth is always a defense but hey, why get to that point where you're pleading your affirmative defenses in court.  So I'm going to let it go.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: shelbydoug on September 21, 2019, 12:32:52 PM
Quote from: deathsled on September 20, 2019, 08:40:20 PM
Peter Bradshaw, movie critic for The Guardian.  He gets to review the movie Ford versus Ferrari.  Now I get to review him.  (I had a long diatribe about him here that I was going to publish but deleted it when I got to thinking the legal implications of any alleged slander/ libel if it ever came to light).  Truth is always a defense but hey, why get to that point where you're pleading your affirmative defenses in court.  So I'm going to let it go.

I think the film will have enough positive feedback to stand on it's own. It's intended to entertain you. It isn't intended to be Gospel to anyone.

Good film is art. I suppose bad film is art to, just bad art.

The ironic thing about art is that today you can think it's the worst bit of tripe ever conceived and tomorrow in a different light you can discover it and think it is genius? It's happen to me more then once.

Someone who misses the boat is at a loss to themselves. No one else. Critics should be more understanding and it would help if they were a little more tactful as well. It's the Guardians loss, not mine.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: deathsled on September 21, 2019, 12:36:42 PM
^^^^^^
Well said.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: johno on September 28, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
My dear dear gentlemen, from an englishman..... A) we don't read the guardian  B) we don't listen to film critics!  we know this film will be brilliant!!!  the critics just "won't get it", you see when they reviewed the Hunt/Lauda film they knew the story beforehand- but know sod all about this one!! The trailer looks awesome , it'll be great.      john    in edgware
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: deathsled on September 28, 2019, 09:57:00 PM
Fair enough.  Besides most critics on either side of the Atlantic are either hard core feminists these days who will hate the dominant male presence in the movie, or weak minded, effeminate males just slightly left of Karl Marx in their leanings with a strong bent toward identity politics.  So who cares what they say because they don't rate in my books.  That's why I plan to see the movie only with my father when I get back to Toronto.  If you go with somebody who thinks they are a movie critic or has no appreciation for motorsports, I guarantee they will ruin the movie for you afterward.  Or complain during the movie and nudge you to leave before it ends.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 28, 2019, 11:47:45 PM
You are spot on, Richard!  I'm hoping to get in to a screening with a buddy who has connections to the movie. 

Too bad they couldn't shoot it in old fashioned/awesome three-strip Cinerama.  A theater presentation format like Grand Prix would be pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: deathsled on September 29, 2019, 08:42:06 AM
I had to look up Cinerama. I'd not heard of it before. Likely because growing up in Toronto we never had it. If we did then I was never exposed to Cinerama. It sounds very appealing.

"The three angled cameras photographed an image that was not only three times as wide as a standard film but covered 146 degrees of arc, close to the human field of vision, including peripheral vision."
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: mark p on September 29, 2019, 01:34:59 PM
Quote from: johno on September 28, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
My dear dear gentlemen, from an englishman..... A) we don't read the guardian  B) we don't listen to film critics!  ....
it'll be great.      john    in edgware


Thanks for the "insider tips".
Why can't "they" juts let "us" enjoy the moment?  ::)
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: 2112 on September 29, 2019, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: mark p on September 29, 2019, 01:34:59 PM
Why can't "they" just let "us" enjoy the moment?  ::)

Because part of their modus operandi is to shame everything automotive.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: Side-Oilers on September 29, 2019, 05:58:05 PM
GLOBAL WARMING!!! GLOBAL WARMING!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!!  ALL CARS MUST BE BANNED!!!
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: deathsled on September 29, 2019, 06:44:04 PM
The world rolls on the wheel.  Even those that complain still partake.  If they were truly altruistic about saving the world they would take the next logical step and end their existence thereby reducing their footprint, carbon and otherwise to an absolute zero.  As an addendum, they offer no viable alternative solutions given current technology.  And the beat goes on.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: jguyer on September 29, 2019, 07:25:16 PM
Quote from: Side-Oilers on September 28, 2019, 11:47:45 PM
You are spot on, Richard!  I'm hoping to get in to a screening with a buddy who has connections to the movie. 

Too bad they couldn't shoot it in old fashioned/awesome three-strip Cinerama.  A theater presentation format like Grand Prix would be pretty cool.

Not being a big movie-goer, is Imax worth the difference?
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: 2112 on September 29, 2019, 07:36:44 PM
Quote from: deathsled on September 29, 2019, 06:44:04 PM
The world rolls on the wheel.  Even those that complain still partake.  If they were truly altruistic about saving the world they would take the next logical step and end their existence thereby reducing their footprint, carbon and otherwise to an absolute zero.  As an addendum, they offer no viable alternative solutions given current technology.  And the beat goes on.

Because fixing air pollution isn't their primary objective.
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: Shelby_r_b on September 29, 2019, 07:44:30 PM
Quote from: johno on September 28, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
My dear dear gentlemen, from an englishman..... A) we don't read the guardian  B) we don't listen to film critics!  we know this film will be brilliant!!!  the critics just "won't get it", you see when they reviewed the Hunt/Lauda film they knew the story beforehand- but know sod all about this one!! The trailer looks awesome , it'll be great.      john    in edgware

Welcome from across the pond! 😊
Title: Re: The Movie
Post by: greekz on September 30, 2019, 10:40:23 AM
Quote from: deathsled on September 29, 2019, 06:44:04 PM
The world rolls on the wheel.  Even those that complain still partake.  If they were truly altruistic about saving the world they would take the next logical step and end their existence thereby reducing their footprint, carbon and otherwise to an absolute zero.  As an addendum, they offer no viable alternative solutions given current technology.  And the beat goes on.

Not only the wheel.  The interior/exterior parts of the car, from the components in their washer, dryer, dishwasher, etc. to the comb in their pocket and frames of their glasses.  Heck, if they rode a bike to the protest, the tires on it.  And, you are right on, they offer no viable option.