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Title: To wash or not to wash
Post by: deathsled on September 30, 2019, 11:14:21 PM
that is the question. Original Shelby tee. Has a but if yellowed staining on the front. I plan to display. Wash or dry clean or leave as is?
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: Vernon Estes on September 30, 2019, 11:39:13 PM
Looks pretty good to me, should display nicely as is!

Vern
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: Shelby_r_b on September 30, 2019, 11:47:04 PM
+1^^^^
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: deathsled on September 30, 2019, 11:49:24 PM
I believe you are correct Vern.  No good can come of cleaning it further except to wear it out even more.  Hell, it could come completely unraveled.  There are not many left due to the thinness of the cotton.  Display case it will go into for the wall.  Next question becomes display front or back.  Maybe have glass on both sides so it can periodically be rotated.
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: Chris Thauberger on September 30, 2019, 11:53:53 PM
I believe you are correct Vern.  No good can come of cleaning it further except to wear it out even more.  Hell, it could come completely unraveled.  There are not many left due to the thinness of the cotton.  Display case it will go into for the wall.  Next question becomes display front or back.  Maybe have glass on both sides so it can periodically be rotated.

Glass on both sides, excellent idea!
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: Jim Herrud on October 01, 2019, 02:04:22 AM
That's not a stain. That's patina!
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: GT350Lad on October 01, 2019, 02:18:44 AM
That's not a stain. That's patina!

Agree totally
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: FL SAAC TONY on October 01, 2019, 09:44:28 AM
kool shirt ! if you do decide to enclose in a glass display and will be turning it over occasionally, make sure the frame and attaching points will accommodate for a clean display

that is the question. Original Shelby tee. Has a but if yellowed staining on the front. I plan to display. Wash or dry clean or leave as is?
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: deathsled on October 01, 2019, 11:49:40 AM
I like that! Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: 6s1640 on October 01, 2019, 02:04:05 PM
Don't wash.  That is history on the shirt.  If something happened during the cleaning, you'd  never forgive yourself.

Best of luck

Cory
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: deathsled on October 01, 2019, 02:14:12 PM
You're 100 percent correct, Cory. I will not wash. The mildew smell has dissipated. It smells more like old books in a library. That's tolerable to me. Thank you. I am taking your advice and that of others. I could say it is the sweat and grime of a Shelby mechanic who did a final tweak before a Cobra won the race. Lol. Total fantasy but that is how rumors start. I prefer to keep a clear transcript of the history. Let the object speak for itself. And they do speak!
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: terlingua11 on October 01, 2019, 02:27:21 PM
ok, just found this thread.

I was posed with this same question about 10years ago. I had a Don Prudhomme Super Snake shirt that had a large yellow water stain on it. Looked horrible and had some yellowing from age. I bit the bullet and found a big tupperware plastic container big enough for the dirt. I used some warm water and mixed in a bit of Oxy Clean. I let it sit overnight and then hand rinsed the shirt to remove the oxyclean with cold water. I then neatly hand rung the water out and laid it flat on a towel on a flat surface. Let it air dry and low and behold...... it looks NOS.

Not for the faint of heart but I gambled and I think the results speak for themselves. I have done it with 2 other shirts ( GT350 ) and have had success. Just another option if the staining is not to your liking. I figured it's been washed when it was new.....
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: deathsled on October 01, 2019, 03:06:24 PM
I'm going to live with it. The material of the shirt, though in great condition, seems delicate and it's about half a century old. Too risky in this instance I think.Thank you for your input.
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: Shelby_r_b on October 01, 2019, 03:41:38 PM
ok, just found this thread.

I was posed with this same question about 10years ago. I had a Don Prudhomme Super Snake shirt that had a large yellow water stain on it. Looked horrible and had some yellowing from age. I bit the bullet and found a big tupperware plastic container big enough for the dirt. I used some warm water and mixed in a bit of Oxy Clean. I let it sit overnight and then hand rinsed the shirt to remove the oxyclean with cold water. I then neatly hand rung the water out and laid it flat on a towel on a flat surface. Let it air dry and low and behold...... it looks NOS.

Not for the faint of heart but I gambled and I think the results speak for themselves. I have done it with 2 other shirts ( GT350 ) and have had success. Just another option if the staining is not to your liking. I figured it's been washed when it was new.....

Wow!  You've got some good stuff in that closet.  ;)
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: Chris Thauberger on October 01, 2019, 04:30:59 PM
I find this thread interesting.

Here we are discussing the delicacy of a t-shirt, if it should be washed and putting it in a glass case on display instead of just wearing it as it was meant to be.

If this was a car we were discussing something like " they were meant to be driven" would be the rally cry.

Any one else see the irony? I mean no disrespect. To each his own.


Just sayin'  ;)
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: FL SAAC TONY on October 01, 2019, 04:48:24 PM
oh the irony....I mean the ironing of the t shirt...lmao
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: J_Speegle on October 01, 2019, 05:01:58 PM
I find this thread interesting.

Here we are discussing the delicacy of a t-shirt, if it should be washed and putting it in a glass case on display instead of just wearing it as it was meant to be.

If this was a car we were discussing something like " they were meant to be driven" would be the rally cry.

Good point.

Like cars - things are made/built to make someone a profit, a pay check, provide jobs and in some cases shareholders a dividend. Often they don't care what you do with the product

Each buyer/owner gets the choice (depending on laws and regulations by your government  ::) as to how they will use things.

Since we've opened the "door" Kind of surprised someone hasn't offered - "It's only original once"  so I will  ;)
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: FL SAAC TONY on October 01, 2019, 05:10:33 PM

bla bla bla


Good point.

Like cars - things are made/built to make someone a profit, a pay check, provide jobs and in some cases shareholders a dividend. Often they don't care what you do with the product

Each buyer/owner gets the choice (depending on laws and regulations by your government  ::) as to how they will use things.

Since we've opened the "door" Kind of surprised someone hasn't offered - "It's only original once"  so I will  ;)

+ 1
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: deathsled on October 01, 2019, 05:19:42 PM
Actually it does seem a tad absurd. I would say though that it is a fragile piece of memorabilia with not many of them left in existence. It is an artifact so to speak for display purposes. When it wears out it gets thrown out. When a car part wears out it gets replaced to keep driving. I've worn replicas of this shirt and will get another replica again. There comes a time when collectibles get hung up and displayed. I believe this original shirt falls into that category. I mean you could use a 1000 year old Viking axe to chop wood if it was well preserved. But why would you? Or a knife from the Mayan culture to cut out someone's heart. Better to just use a steak knife. Or let the family courts do it for you.
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: FL SAAC TONY on October 01, 2019, 05:55:36 PM
I personally now a guy that has a room full of university of miami memorabilia...he even took his seat (savage) from the old stadium at the very last game ever played there.

rumors have it that the seat is behind glass...fancy that


Actually it does seem a tad absurd. I would say though that it is a fragile piece of memorabilia with not many of them left in existence. It is an artifact so to speak for display purposes. When it wears out it gets thrown out. When a car part wears out it gets replaced to keep driving. I've worn replicas of this shirt and will get another replica again. There comes a time when collectibles get hung up and displayed. I believe this original shirt falls into that category. I mean you could use a 1000 year old Viking axe to chop wood if it was well preserved. But why would you? Or a knife from the Mayan culture to cut out someone's heart. Better to just use a steak knife. Or let the family courts do it for you.
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: Jim Herrud on October 01, 2019, 07:05:57 PM
I've heard of that guy that owns the actual ax that George Washington used to chop down the cherry tree. Of course, the ax head has been replaced twice and the handle three times. But it's still original!
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: terlingua11 on October 03, 2019, 12:22:08 PM
I'd love to wear my T-shirts, however I'm 6'3" and wear an XL. When you find a rare shirt that's 50+ years old you can't be picky about the size. Not one of my shirts would fit, however the "Big Shirt" would as it was like a 2XL with extra length straight from the factory. Might look a bit strange wearing it though, as that was not how it was intended to be worn.

As we all know also, shirts for back then are much smaller. A mens Large is certainly no the same size as it is today.

I hear ya on wearing the shirt, however you can't repaint, restore or replace a sleeve on a shirt like you can a car-
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: 557 on October 03, 2019, 07:19:56 PM
They are only original once...Throw MORE dirt on it and call it a “barn find”(for fun AND profit!!!) :o
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: FL SAAC TONY on October 03, 2019, 07:48:18 PM
They are only original once...Throw MORE dirt on it and call it a “barn find”(for fun AND profit!!!) :o

nothing like a little starch and patina...
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: deathsled on October 03, 2019, 09:23:15 PM
Starch and patina. Lol!
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: FL SAAC TONY on October 18, 2019, 11:57:58 AM
to have (clothes sure) closure ;

so what in heavens name did you decide to do with your fine couture item ?
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: deathsled on October 18, 2019, 03:46:44 PM
Clothes sure. Lol! Did not wash! I did try it on for fitment. A large back then is like a medium today...
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: TJinSA on October 18, 2019, 04:51:46 PM
display pressed  against the glass of a shadow box, with a mirrored surface on the back enclosure 2-3 inches behind?
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: deathsled on October 18, 2019, 09:18:34 PM
display pressed  against the glass of a shadow box, with a mirrored surface on the back enclosure 2-3 inches behind?

I like the idea.  I am searching options but your suggestion sounds appealing.  Thank you.
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: FL SAAC TONY on October 19, 2019, 09:54:00 AM
great idea on the mirror backing but ;

1) its proximity will not allow you to clearly see the opposite side of the shirt

2) over a period of time most mirrored glass develop spots or black areas

personally would stick with glass on both sides with the emphasises of having a reversible edge for a dual front rear display

our three cents worth...

display pressed  against the glass of a shadow box, with a mirrored surface on the back enclosure 2-3 inches behind?

I like the idea.  I am searching options but your suggestion sounds appealing.  Thank you.
Title: Re: To wash or not to wash
Post by: deathsled on October 19, 2019, 10:09:51 AM
I like what you suggest, Tony. But I haven't found double sided glass large enough to display the shirt. Still looking.