Need help please. I m not car mechanic. Love to play with my cars.
Started my 69 today, it tried to start and then stopped. Started it a again and died. Heard a click on right side of the car.
Now no crank at all. Battery is fully charged.
I checked with my battery charger. It registered alternator voltage BAD.
Any suggestions.'please help!
Thx
Phuong
Connection check, clean and tighten (battery, ground and starter cables) would be my next step followed by bypassing the starter relay as the next check.
Once you get past those then I would check the starter
Portable charger showed alternator voltage Bad!!! So alternator problem??
Thx
Since you have limited knowledge of the mechanics of the car, I suggest you speak with your local dealer about your car and see if they could recommend someone to come and help. You could also contact your local car club and find someone. This will expedite the process, provide you with some education, make a friend and limit the frustration.
I'm wondering if the "click" you heard was your starter solenoid?
Even if that sh!t the bed it wouldn't explain the rest but that might be the place to begin.
Quote from: Bigfoot on October 07, 2019, 09:18:02 AM
I'm wondering if the "click" you heard was your starter solenoid?
Even if that sh!t the bed it wouldn't explain the rest but that might be the place to begin.
If the battery is good, you need to eliminate the starter solenoid first. Then the starter switch. Then the starter, in that order.
Clean all the terminals on the solenoid.
Quote from: 1969shelbygt350 on October 06, 2019, 08:52:01 PM
Portable charger showed alternator voltage Bad!!! So alternator problem??
Thx
Your battery charger may show the battery charged, but that does not mean the battery is good. Have you tried another battery?
Bill
Quote from: 1969shelbygt350 on October 06, 2019, 08:52:01 PM
Portable charger showed alternator voltage Bad!!! So alternator problem??
Thx
If the engine isn't running then there is no alternator output so that shows as a bad condition. You can't test the alternator output until the engine is running.
Quote from: 1969shelbygt350 on October 06, 2019, 08:52:01 PM
Portable charger showed alternator voltage Bad!!! So alternator problem??
Thx
At this point (may or may not be a secondary issue) the alternator is not the focus. Your engine will run with out an alternator.
Like a river - follow the source of electricity from the source to the starter - checking and confirming as you go.
Battery ok
Solenoid ok
Cables are ok
Now I will test the start switch to solenoid. If there is current there.
Is it corrected? Wife tried to start the starter switch and I tested the "S" on the selenium!
Please advise.
Thx
Quote from: 1969shelbygt350 on October 07, 2019, 08:12:32 PM
Battery ok
Solenoid ok
Cables are ok
So all connections are tight and power passes from each post to the cable?
How did you test the solenoid and what took place when you bypassed it?
Checking the power to the solenoid is a quick and easy test - holding the key to the start - not run- position. If this causes you to get a clicking noise earlier as you reported, it's likely getting juice
If you have done all the other tests correctly either there is an issue with the starter or the engine is frozen/locked up
I think it is neutral safety switch!
Where is it on 69 auto? Looked over the linkage but didn't see it.
Thx
Quote from: 1969shelbygt350 on October 08, 2019, 04:03:00 PM
I think it is neutral safety switch!
Not sure how you got to that conclusion since the earlier suggested tests would have bypassed it. East to eliminate/bypass it at the wire loom in the engine compartment
Quote from: 1969shelbygt350 on October 08, 2019, 04:03:00 PMWhere is it on 69 auto? Looked over the linkage but didn't see it.
If you have a GT500 here is an example
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/12/6-081019163632.jpeg)
I manually bridged the selenoid. Not sure but this is next one in the path!
Thx
I have 350 and auto
The Neutral Safety keeps it from cranking while the transmission lever is in a Drive position. It is easy to set with a wrench and a drill bit. But it's rare that it is "off" once set (unless the nut holding it is loose). Got a spare starter solenoid? Buddy nearby can take one off and try on yours? No-Starts can be difficult to track down. Checking fuel and current.
Quote from: 1969shelbygt350 on October 08, 2019, 05:34:17 PM
I have 350 and auto
Believe (been a few years since I looked at one of these applications) that locates it at the shifter so access it from inside but would suggest you by pass it and test. That will provide a go - no go answer making the process quicker
(http://www.concoursmustang.com/forum/gallery/12/6-081019201545.jpeg)
Quote from: 1969shelbygt350 on October 08, 2019, 05:33:25 PM
I manually bridged the selenoid. Not sure but this is next one in the path!
So you just by- passed the dash and neutral safety switch and not the solenoid.
If you didn't get a reaction from the starter that way then its likely not in the key loop or the neutral safety loop. Guessing you got the solenoid to produce a single click and not a rattle.
Hi Jeff
I got one click at the selenoid. I couldn't find the safety switch underneath. I took of the shifter plate and I got exactly what I'm the picture. Is that where the safety switch on the left side of the shifter arm??
Thx
Thank you for all you guys inputs and Jeff showed me the pictures. This morning went out with wife and tried to check the wire leads out from S terminal on selenoid. But didn't have to check it. Put key into the ignition and started! Lol. Doesn't know why?
Thx
If it happens intermittently again then I would suspect the ignition switch.