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Title: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: deathsled on October 08, 2019, 01:05:01 PM
https://youtu.be/FkP5Svl16Qg
My love for the Shelby and Mustang stuff does not negate my appreciation for other amazing cars. Gotta love that flat 12 engine roar!
https://youtu.be/FkP5Svl16Qg
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: CSX 4133 on October 08, 2019, 02:08:27 PM

Such a sweet cacophony, only outdone by the 917-30 which is said to have killed Can-Am racing.
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on October 08, 2019, 04:24:45 PM
Most of the surviving 917 Porsche race drivers like Brian Redman, Gerard Larrousse and Vic Elford  admit that these cars scared the living daylights out of them....1,000+ hp!
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: deathsled on October 08, 2019, 04:57:37 PM
Has anyone here has the chance to drive one? If so what was it like? I think they are one seaters. Someone named Bruce Canapa works on these cars and may own one or two. Adam Carolla spoke a lot about Canals and I think he is in California.
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: CSX 4133 on October 08, 2019, 06:15:04 PM

Bruce has a great collection and drives in various vintage/Reunion races mainly on the west coast. He owns a 917K himself, but has worked on various large bore machines in his amazing shop.

His 917K...
https://vimeo.com/181839160

His business.......
https://canepa.com
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: Side-Oilers on October 08, 2019, 06:58:14 PM
I bought my Kirkham 427 from Bruce.  He does have an amazing shop and car collection.  You can watch a "video shop tour" on his site. 
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: honker on October 08, 2019, 08:00:33 PM
deathsled, great clip, you need to turn up the volume full ! awesome sound !

NC TRACKRAT, I think your talking about the 917/30 Can-Am cars, Mark Donohue's "Sunoco" car had 1200hp with the boost

cranked, the endurance cars like the one in the clip had between 580 & 630 hp, they were still quick, the early '69 enduro cars

were very unstable, as you said it scared the S out of them. I was lucky to see them in action in the 6 hour at Watkins Glen in

1970, with Siffert and Rodriguez amongst others driving, those were the days  8) it was fender to fender racing, no prisoners, like

in Trans-Am, image included

Mike
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on October 08, 2019, 09:28:52 PM
Here's Bruce Canepa in a 917/10 1,100hp: https://jalopnik.com/driving-a-1-100-horsepower-twin-turbo-porsche-917-10-lo-1829488209.  One source quoted the 917/30 at max boost as developing 1,600 hp!  Here he is in the Wyer Gulf 917/30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnFnq1uTyBM
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: deathsled on October 08, 2019, 09:38:08 PM
Thank you gentlemen for the Bruce Canepa info.  I'd like to see a 917 up close some day but I doubt there is anything like that here in the Mid-West but one never knows. I would like to drive one on the track even at a pedestrian pace would be amazing.  I have not raced a car myself so I am green as they come but I have imagined getting my SCCA license just to have it.   
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: deathsled on October 08, 2019, 09:48:56 PM
A virtual reality drive with the 917 at the Nurburgring.  This looks serious hard core virtual reality.  I may need to consider this as an option for the long winter months.  Quite impressive!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9_X7vh6ZZs&t=9s
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on October 08, 2019, 09:54:38 PM
Mid-America (Elkhart Lake) near Milwaukee and Mid-Ohio are close by you and these outstanding courses usually have vintage races. You just never know what might show up.
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: deathsled on October 08, 2019, 10:06:34 PM
I'll be on the lookout next year.  I'm going to check out the virtual reality headset for the long winter in the meantime.
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: Shelby_r_b on October 08, 2019, 11:02:50 PM
Pretty awesome car!  And, yes - Adam Corolla is quite the racer.  He was racing at Laguna Seca during Monterrey Car Week.
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: mark p on October 09, 2019, 01:14:45 PM
the "Hippie Car"917LH is right in Philly at the Simeone Museum.
They don't race it, but they do run it around the huge parking lot on various "Demonstration Days", visitors can hear it run and stick your nose (or camera) pretty much anywhere. I forget the exact numbers, but one of the Museum guys reviewed some of the design technical details; and how hard the Porsche engineers worked to keep the HP for that cooling fan down to something "reasonable"  ???
There are some photos, history, and videos here:
https://www.simeonemuseum.org/collection/1970-porsche-917-lh/

Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: CSX 4133 on October 09, 2019, 04:00:00 PM

The long tail (Langheck) 917's looked so different, almost unbalanced visually, compared to the "base" 917's.
All for the added stability and aero especially for the Mulsanne straight. As great as the 917's sound I still favor the ear splitting sound of the V12 Matra's.
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: JD on October 09, 2019, 06:55:04 PM
Quote from: CSX 4133 on October 09, 2019, 04:00:00 PM

The long tail (Langheck) 917's looked so different, almost unbalanced visually, compared to the "base" 917's.
All for the added stability and aero especially for the Mulsanne straight. As great as the 917's sound I still favor the ear splitting sound of the V12 Matra's.

YES!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxWJO-SZKW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K2hLqgdz-8


Quote from: NC TRACKRAT on October 08, 2019, 09:54:38 PM
Mid-America (Elkhart Lake) near Milwaukee and Mid-Ohio are close by you and these outstanding courses usually have vintage races. You just never know what might show up.

^^^ yes they do.

Here's some from the Dark-side Ferrari 1964 250SWB at Goodwood in car race, over 30 minutes, skip ahead to about 6:45 seconds for the start of the race.  I think Danny Sullivan is driving.  How to flog a multi-million dollar car with a bunch of other multi-million dollar cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbBevDHJP14

Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: 427heaven on October 09, 2019, 07:33:41 PM
If the sound of those cars don't put a smile on your face, or make the hair stand up on your neck your probably deaf... or as they say now hearing impaired.
Title: Re: Sounds of a Porsche 917
Post by: JD on October 09, 2019, 07:57:50 PM
And for something on the lighter side...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TpCQrkhfoU

Former Formula 1 driver Riccardo Patrese takes his wife for a lap on track in a street car,  watch his face, total opposite of what is going on in the other seat - hysterical