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Title: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Coralsnake on November 14, 2019, 11:08:47 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PhBesrEN18w

Love the hanger scenes
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Shelby_r_b on November 14, 2019, 11:21:24 AM
GREAT clip!  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: FL SAAC on November 14, 2019, 11:22:13 AM
love it, we are headed out tonight to watch for the second time
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Bob Gaines on November 14, 2019, 11:32:01 PM
Just got back from seeing the film. I had my doubts but I was thoroughly entertained. Matt Damon was at least 100% better then I expected . He sold the CS persona well IMO. A few silly screen mess ups that were not historically correct which spoiled the illusion that I tried to ignore. It was frustrating for me thinking that it would be common sense to get someone knowledgeable to sign off on scene props. GT40 427 engine with modern bowls AND modern Holley electric choke. Another was the scene with Miles character critiquing GT40 typical GT40 4 barrel carburetor performance after test drive and then Phil Remington character calling for a Holley throttle body all the while Weber stacks (modern electronic fuel injection type) in the background. The Superformance Daytona coupe with 17/18 inch wheels was another flub that was hard to not notice given it was shown several times . All in all however the contrived vintage looking shots were wonderful to look at regardless of the short comings in my mind. 
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: deathsled on November 15, 2019, 12:32:49 AM
You are the equivalent of a professional musician hearing wrong notes in Rachmaninoff's Third Piano Concerto, which is laudable, but the general audience that hears the concerto won't even hear those wrong notes.  The orchestra gets a standing ovation regardless.  I'm sure it will be fine.  I did not get to see the movie tonight because I was encumbered at the office.  Thank you for your review though, Mr. Gaines. 
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Chad on November 15, 2019, 06:18:49 AM
It was great for sure!  Now read the book if you haven't yet!!!
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: CSX 4133 on November 15, 2019, 06:34:14 AM

Went to my small town's first showing last night. I enjoyed the film from an entertainment point of view, plenty of inaccuracies, but all in all I really enjoyed it.

Here's hoping the directors cut makes it to a DVD.
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on November 15, 2019, 07:18:04 AM
My family, 3 daughters and my wife, has pre purchased tickets for a 7:00 showing at the BTX theater in the Annapolis Mall for tonight.  My 2 older daughters are coming in from out of town for the event.  They say they just want to watch me watch the movie.  Either way it is going to be a great family affair.
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Bobby Crumpley on November 15, 2019, 08:33:59 AM
That was my take as well, Bob.  I think to really get the story right, you would have to double the length of an already long movie,  plus source a lot of difficult to get cars and parts, and have them at your disposal for several months of filming.  My advice is to not go in expecting a documentary of the history of Shelby-American.  This was about Shelby's involvement with the GT40 team, and I thought it was more of a tribute to Ken Miles than anything else, which was wonderful to see.  Now I want to go watch it again!
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Keith Litteken on November 15, 2019, 10:41:45 AM
Thanks, I am going tonight with a bunch of friends!

Here is my little piece of Shelby racing history.
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: CharlesTurner on November 15, 2019, 11:26:09 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on November 14, 2019, 11:32:01 PM
...AND modern Holley electric choke

Saw that too, lol
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Bobby Crumpley on November 15, 2019, 11:29:36 AM
I did get a kick out of the Chevy LSx head sitting in the background in Miles' repair shop.
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: JD on November 15, 2019, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: Keith Litteken on November 15, 2019, 10:41:45 AM
Thanks, I am going tonight with a bunch of friends!

Here is my little piece of Shelby racing history.

NICE car and rig!!!
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Don Johnston on November 15, 2019, 01:17:18 PM
Maybe this will stop and replace all the fascinanation with that movie about a leaping modified silver Mustang called Eleanor (second movie) and inspire the uninformed to learn about the history of CS and his real cars and employees. 8)
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: roddster on November 15, 2019, 01:28:29 PM
I agree with Don Johnson. A correct.statement.

  Now,where can I buy a movie poster or two?
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: FL SAAC on November 15, 2019, 02:45:04 PM
+ 1
we would like to award Mr. Johnston for his recognition of what an exemplary motion picture is v.s. what that other flick was...

Don please come up and recieve this award on behalf of the true Shelby Aficionados in the world...this one is for you !

Quote from: Don Johnston on November 15, 2019, 01:17:18 PM
Maybe this will stop and replace all the fascinanation with that movie about a leaping modified silver Mustang called Eleanor (second movie) and inspire the uninformed to learn about the history of CS and his real cars and employees. 8)
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: CSX 4133 on November 15, 2019, 03:04:07 PM

Short article from Carroll's grandson's perspective on the movie, plus a short video of the family car collection.

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/carroll-shelby-story-hits-screen/287-cb938ae5-427e-40a2-9bd8-8ede9f2b9469
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Steve McDonald Formally known as Mcdonas on November 15, 2019, 05:10:43 PM
Quote from: Corey Bowcutt on November 15, 2019, 07:18:04 AM
My family, 3 daughters and my wife, has pre purchased tickets for a 7:00 showing at the BTX theater in the Annapolis Mall for tonight.  My 2 older daughters are coming in from out of town for the event.  They say they just want to watch me watch the movie.  Either way it is going to be a great family affair.
Show them the location of the defibrillator to zap, you back when a Cobra or GT40 gets wrecked
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Don Johnston on November 15, 2019, 05:37:34 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC TONY on November 15, 2019, 02:45:04 PM
+ 1
we would like to award Mr. Johnston for his recognition of what an exemplary motion picture is v.s. what that other flick was...

Don please come up and recieve this award on behalf of the true Shelby Aficionados in the world...this one is for you !

Quote from: Don Johnston on November 15, 2019, 01:17:18 PM
Maybe this will stop and replace all the fascinanation with that movie about a leaping modified silver Mustang called Eleanor (second movie) and inspire the uninformed to learn about the history of CS and his real cars and employees. 8)

Bring it to me at SAAC at Indy and don't let the chocolate in it melt.  Thank you. 8)
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: 69mach351w on November 17, 2019, 07:38:15 AM
Seen it last night....

AAA+++.

A Man and Woman seen my Cobra shirt last night and ask me a few questions.  I schooled them on what I know and learned from here and then they had a better perspective of who Shelby and Miles were and what HFII was wanting to accomplish ;D

The Gentleman actually said he was coming back and watching it again in the next few days.   

The couple pulled away in a 500 series BMW ;D
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: shelbydoug on November 17, 2019, 07:58:22 AM
Quote from: 69mach351w on November 17, 2019, 07:38:15 AM
Seen it last night....

AAA+++.

A Man and Woman seen my Cobra shirt last night and ask me a few questions.  I schooled them on what I know and learned from here and then they had a better perspective of who Shelby and Miles were and what HFII was wanting to accomplish ;D

The Gentleman actually said he was coming back and watching it again in the next few days.   

The couple pulled away in a 500 series BMW ;D

If you consider owning a "Shelby" as owning "stock", don't "cash it in" yet. It's going to rise in value considerably.

Not only was CS himself a visionary but owners of his cars really are as well.

This film will help others who are less observant understand what also was right in front of their noses all the time?

There was a '60s car commercial that I remember. I think in that case it was for a 442. There was a guy sitting along the roadside as the car whizzed by. His comment was, "buy it or watch it go buy". Very prophetic if you ask me?

It is the nature of people in general to "not know the value of something until it is gone". "They torn down Paradise and put up a parking lot".

Prophets are usually laughed at by society although in all fairness, Charles Dickens gave large credit to the Bass Ale. ;)
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Coralsnake on November 17, 2019, 07:59:39 AM
QuoteIf you consider owning a "Shelby" as owning "stock", don't "cash it in" yet. It's going to rise in value considerably.

Just like when he passed?   ;)
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: shelbydoug on November 17, 2019, 08:03:20 AM
Quote from: Coralsnake on November 17, 2019, 07:59:39 AM
QuoteIf you consider owning a "Shelby" as owning "stock", don't "cash it in" yet. It's going to rise in value considerably.

Just like when he passed?   ;)

This film didn't exist then. Look what "Gone in 60 seconds" did for the 'Elanor'.

General knowledge of the public contributes a lot. Let's put it this way, people won't be dumping Shelby's as a result of this film?
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: 67_1183 on November 17, 2019, 05:17:15 PM
Ford V Ferrari races to top of box office

QuoteFord V Ferrari skidded into pole position with $31 million at the weekend box office, way ahead of expectations and its nearest rival, Midway, with $8.75 million.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7695565/Ford-V-Ferrari-races-31m-Charlies-Angels-hits-8-6m-B-O.html

Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Corey Bowcutt on November 18, 2019, 12:38:03 PM
The whole family took me to the movie Friday night.  We all loved it!
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: KR500 on November 18, 2019, 02:25:38 PM
The Wife and I saw it Saturday evening. We had a good time and we both liked it. Literately this was the first time I have seen a movie in a theater this century.
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: KR Convertible on November 18, 2019, 02:39:05 PM
Quote from: KR500 on November 18, 2019, 02:25:38 PM
The Wife and I saw it Saturday evening. We had a good time and we both liked it. Literately this was the first time I have seen a movie in a theater this century.

I could say that, too.  As long as you don't count animated movies.  I took my kids to see one of the "Toy Story" movies about a dozen years ago.  Before that it was probably the 80s.
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: 6s1139 on November 18, 2019, 07:19:06 PM
Same - enjoyed it (big screen) and this weekend we will do the "drive in" with the cars

Probably mentioned already, but the Netflix doco "24 Hour War" is worth watching - covers a little bit before/after the movie and some great interviews with some living (and sadly, some passed) greats
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: sd427 on November 18, 2019, 08:49:59 PM
Nice article.

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a29790131/ford-v-ferrari-mose-nowland/
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Don Johnston on November 18, 2019, 09:34:36 PM
Now this makes my day knowing there was was some repect for the era:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29688754/christian-bale-ford-v-ferrari-racing-school/

8)
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: CSX 4133 on November 19, 2019, 06:34:27 AM

Another thorough article from back in the day regarding the Ford development of the GT40.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a29798198/ford-gt40-mk-ii-le-mans-analysis/
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Shelby_r_b on November 19, 2019, 07:29:02 AM
Quote from: Don Johnston on November 18, 2019, 09:34:36 PM
Now this makes my day knowing there was was some repect for the era:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29688754/christian-bale-ford-v-ferrari-racing-school/

8)

+1
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: csheff on November 19, 2019, 09:55:28 AM
+1 nice info
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: CSX 4133 on November 26, 2019, 12:59:03 PM

Short video via Shelby American on Carroll.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8MfhVxwo7Y&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: FL SAAC on November 26, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: Don Johnston on November 18, 2019, 09:34:36 PM
Now this makes my day knowing there was was some repect for the era:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29688754/christian-bale-ford-v-ferrari-racing-school/

8)

Ford v Ferrari has been accepted very well world wide,  S / C America, Europe,  Asia

In speaking to our Italian friends that love all that is American (and that's almost most of the world ) they adore Mustang's, Cobra's, Shelby's and all Americana
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: 68stangcjfb on November 26, 2019, 06:54:57 PM
It would have been cool if they filmed a scene with Carroll Shelby and Bill Cosby with Shelby scaring the crap out of him in the second Super Snake but considering Bill Cosby's present home in jail, that clearly was never an option.
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: FL SAAC on November 26, 2019, 08:17:09 PM
this just in the artist formally know as Bill "Pudding" Cosby has changed his name to Pill Cosby. News at 11

Carry on with F v F

Quote from: 68stangcjfb on November 26, 2019, 06:54:57 PM
It would have been cool if they filmed a scene with Carroll Shelby and Bill Cosby with Shelby scaring the crap out of him in the second Super Snake but considering Bill Cosby's present home in jail, that clearly was never an option.
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Mikelj5S230 on November 27, 2019, 09:43:50 AM
Good article here, and of course Mat Damon is totally miscast as Shelby, they should have picked Matthew McConaughey...

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2019/11/27/how-to-talk-texan-like-carroll-shelby/?refer=news&utm_source=edaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019-11-27
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: 68stangcjfb on November 27, 2019, 10:34:56 AM
I was thinking Josh Brolin for the role as Carroll Shelby. He even kind of looks like him.
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: FL SAAC on November 27, 2019, 11:10:43 AM
alright, alright, alright....

Quote from: CorvetteMike on November 27, 2019, 09:43:50 AM
Good article here, and of course Mat Damon is totally miscast as Shelby, they should have picked Matthew McConaughey...

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2019/11/27/how-to-talk-texan-like-carroll-shelby/?refer=news&utm_source=edaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019-11-27
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Mikelj5S230 on November 27, 2019, 11:36:54 AM
Quote from: 68stangcjfb on November 27, 2019, 10:34:56 AM
I was thinking Josh Brolin for the role as Carroll Shelby. He even kind of looks like him.

I still like a tall, real Texan with curly hair.....
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Don Johnston on November 27, 2019, 12:20:32 PM
Shoulda, coulda, didn't, movie done, enjoyed it anyway. 8)
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Mikelj5S230 on November 27, 2019, 04:55:36 PM
I can't wait to see it,  and sure it is well done, I will just have to suspend disbelief at Damon as CS.
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: Side-Oilers on November 28, 2019, 12:48:24 AM
Saw the movie tonight, for a second time. Went with my buddy and our wives.  The ladies liked it, and weren't bored anywhere.

The errors in background details (the modern K&N type air filters on the Webers, the electric choke carb on the 427 dyno engine., the radial tires on many of the background cars, Iacocca arriving in a '58 or '59 T-Bird at S-A in 1964) plus the speedometer in the race car, the unimaginable braking G's going from 200 to 50 mph in about two seconds, actor Jon Bernthal looking and sounding nothing like Iacocca, Damon's poor Texas accent, the goofy fight between Shelby and Miles, and a few other things, I still enjoyed it immensely.

The ladies with us only wished that, at the end, they showed more actual Shelby and Miles photographs. The producers had plenty of time in the credits to do so, and that would've given more realism to the entire story.

My wife said: Now, THAT's Carroll Shelby!
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: FL SAAC on November 28, 2019, 07:32:29 AM
the wives were very entertained also, but they said that the movie should have been named the MILEs story

Quote from: Side-Oilers on November 28, 2019, 12:48:24 AM
Saw the movie tonight, for a second time. Went with my buddy and our wives.  The ladies liked it, and weren't bored anywhere.

The errors in background details (the modern K&N type air filters on the Webers, the electric choke carb on the 427 dyno engine., the radial tires on many of the background cars, Iacocca arriving in a '58 or '59 T-Bird at S-A in 1964) plus the speedometer in the race car, the unimaginable braking G's going from 200 to 50 mph in about two seconds, actor Jon Bernthal looking and sounding nothing like Iacocca, Damon's poor Texas accent, the goofy fight between Shelby and Miles, and a few other things, I still enjoyed it immensely.

The ladies with us only wished that, at the end, they showed more actual Shelby and Miles photographs. The producers had plenty of time in the credits to do so, and that would've given more realism to the entire story.

My wife said: Now, THAT's Carroll Shelby!
Title: Re: Ford v Ferrari
Post by: 68cobra427 on December 02, 2019, 04:59:25 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on November 17, 2019, 07:58:22 AM
Quote from: 69mach351w on November 17, 2019, 07:38:15 AM
Seen it last night....

AAA+++.

A Man and Woman seen my Cobra shirt last night and ask me a few questions.  I schooled them on what I know and learned from here and then they had a better perspective of who Shelby and Miles were and what HFII was wanting to accomplish ;D

The Gentleman actually said he was coming back and watching it again in the next few days.   

The couple pulled away in a 500 series BMW ;D

If you consider owning a "Shelby" as owning "stock", don't "cash it in" yet. It's going to rise in value considerably.

Not only was CS himself a visionary but owners of his cars really are as well.

This film will help others who are less observant understand what also was right in front of their noses all the time?

There was a '60s car commercial that I remember. I think in that case it was for a 442. There was a guy sitting along the roadside as the car whizzed by. His comment was, "buy it or watch it go buy". Very prophetic if you ask me?

It is the nature of people in general to "not know the value of something until it is gone". "They torn down Paradise and put up a parking lot".

Prophets are usually laughed at by society although in all fairness, Charles Dickens gave large credit to the Bass Ale. ;)


Funny you say that about if your considering a Shelby as owning (stock)  I have a 68 Shelby GT500 with a Feb (69) 427so , 400 horse matched block/heads. Runs great like the motor in the movie. LOL   I have been trying to sell for a while and all I get is offers under $100K. 

Will see if the movie does anything for the values.  ???

Troy