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Title: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Mark500 on November 21, 2019, 12:49:21 PM
https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/movies/ford-v-ferrari-depicts-a-car-guy-generation-best-left-dead-and-gone
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: shelbydoug on November 21, 2019, 01:10:23 PM
 I can see that I am not going to be a fan of Hannah Elliot? I will contribute a gallon of gas for her to burn her bra with though. Does she even need a bra?
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Wedgeman on November 21, 2019, 01:26:22 PM
I have but 2 questions....1) How old is Hannah ?.....2) Does she drive a....PRIUS ?... :o
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Side-Oilers on November 21, 2019, 01:27:40 PM
Check out the reader comments to the article. I went about 6 pages deep and didn't find one that agreed with her.
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: shelbydoug on November 21, 2019, 01:32:45 PM
She has a twitter page.It would seem that she may be representing herself as an automotive journalist?

Calling this all macho bul lshit doesn't endear her to me. It's not easy for me being a mach A-H. It does seem to come easily to me though?

Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: kjspeed on November 21, 2019, 01:49:32 PM
Hanna is the epitome of her generation's ignorance. Buried near the end is this gem:

"Today car companies face difficult questions about brand identity and mobility–concepts they've never had to contemplate before now."


Daffy Duck* Bugs Bunny may have said it best - "What a maroon!"

* Thanks JD
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: deathsled on November 21, 2019, 01:55:58 PM
Gynocentric rubbish. She's upset because it's a man's movie that shows it like it is. There are more than enough movies out there that are female driven. Men should be able to have our own as well. Think original Predator, First Blood, The Terminator, Dirty Dozen, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Bullitt, Dirty Harry and so on. Let it go sweetheart. It's a movie about men accomplishing things in the automotive world. Besides that was how it was back then. There were no females in the pit crews changing out tires back then. Same holds true today. And any odd exception out there does not invalidate the rule. There are some fast women drivers and I don't begrudge that. I think it's great. But there aren't many.
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Chris Thauberger on November 21, 2019, 02:03:35 PM
EASY fella's...You need to view this article for what it is, PURE ENTERTAINMENT!

The National Post is Canada's version of Fox News.

Don't take the bait...

(https://emoticons.datahamster.com/fishing.gif)
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: shelbydoug on November 21, 2019, 02:33:25 PM
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on November 21, 2019, 02:03:35 PM
EASY fella's...You need to view this article for what it is, PURE ENTERTAINMENT!

The National Post is Canada's version of Fox News.

Don't take the bait...

(https://emoticons.datahamster.com/fishing.gif)

You mean she drums up controversy by making false statements to get ratings? Hum! I hate getting sucked in! It's so easy to.

I got sucked in to believing that the Mets, Jets, Giants, Knicks, Rangers, Islanders, and Devils all would be good this year. I should have know better?  ;) Thanks for the tip!

"The truth will set you free" (eventually)  :(
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Mark500 on November 21, 2019, 02:55:03 PM
Loser .. she needs to drive her Prius into a deep lake
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: JD on November 21, 2019, 03:10:05 PM
Quote from: Wedgeman on November 21, 2019, 01:26:22 PM
I have but 2 questions....1) How old is Hannah ?.....2) Does she drive a....PRIUS ?... :o

Uber/Flyt

Quote from: kjspeed on November 21, 2019, 01:49:32 PM
Hanna is the epitome of her generation's ignorance. Buried near the end is this gem:

"Today car companies face difficult questions about brand identity and mobility –concepts they''ve never had to contemplate before now."


Daffy Duck may have said it best - "What a maroon!"

I think it was Bugs Bunny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYFq7ZJg4c
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: NC TRACKRAT on November 21, 2019, 03:18:22 PM
C'mon, Hannah...Don't hold back...Tell us how you really feel, you dumb b*$+h!
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: 2112 on November 21, 2019, 03:26:45 PM
Quote from: Chris Thauberger on November 21, 2019, 02:03:35 PM
EASY fella's...You need to view this article for what it is, PURE ENTERTAINMENT!

The National Post is Canada's version of Fox News MSNBC & CNN.

Don't take the bait...

(https://emoticons.datahamster.com/fishing.gif)
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Chad on November 21, 2019, 03:36:27 PM
This is what is wrong with this country!!!
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: shelbydoug on November 21, 2019, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: Chad on November 21, 2019, 03:36:27 PM
This is what is wrong with this country!!!

The world has always been filled with stupid people. That's nothing new and is certainly part of the problem. It isn't necessarily just a US phenomenon.

It was common for me to hear in school, "are you part of the problem or part of the solution?" I'm afraid to think about that now. I might not like the answer? :o
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: rkm on November 21, 2019, 03:53:39 PM
woketard
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Side-Oilers on November 21, 2019, 04:45:02 PM
Good perspective on FvF and Charlie's Angels...

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/11/16/nolte-charlies-angels-is-fifth-woketard-franchise-to-die-at-box-office/
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: FL SAAC on November 21, 2019, 05:05:38 PM
"Ford v Ferrari is beautifully shot, rousing, inspiring, moving, funny, 100% American, and brilliantly acted. Using theme and appealing characters, it has much to say, not just about how conformity and corporatism crush the individual spirit, but about our shared human condition; that thing within all of us — men and women alike — to strive, to overcome, to be your own man at all costs — and yes, there is a cost... but yes, that cost is worth it."

AMERICA  !
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Shelby_r_b on November 21, 2019, 06:56:53 PM
Completely ridiculous.  That's 5 minutes I'll never get back.
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: 427heaven on November 21, 2019, 09:04:19 PM
Its better to have been a RACER for a few minutes... Then a SPECTATOR for a lifetime, It has to be experienced it cant be explained. ;)
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: FL SAAC on November 21, 2019, 10:10:53 PM
"Shaken, not stirred"
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: JD on November 21, 2019, 10:28:52 PM
Quote from: 427heaven on November 21, 2019, 09:04:19 PM
Its better to have been a RACER for a few minutes... Then a SPECTATOR for a lifetime, It has to be experienced it cant be explained. ;)

+1  (the most fun you can have with your clothes on!)
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: 6972boss on November 22, 2019, 12:26:57 AM
WOW, got about halfway through and just couldn't take anymore!!
My wife is very pro female, we have spirited discussions!
However, she was a big wig with Chase bank and liked to promote women first until she came across some bad female apples. We talked about that. I told her to scrap that way of thinking and take the best qualified for for the position. She scoffed at me initially....until I needed a painter in my resto shop....a good looking girl applied. My wife had strong words for me, saying she is a shoe in because her cup size. My reply was I could care less who or what they are as long as they can do the job! (She turned out to be a great asset to the shop and actually could lay color down like glass!) I used it as a great example to my wife and she has opened her eyes a little more to true equality.
Hannah sounds like one of those women who would rather bitch and complain about how things are and not put forth effort to step up and better herself and make good for the collective. What a waste of energy sniveling about the past. With an attitude like hers, she will be left behind.
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Side-Oilers on November 22, 2019, 12:38:33 AM
This may have been posted on Forum 1.0, but it's worth another read.  It's from a Lake Tahoe magazine.

https://tahoequarterly.com/winter-2015-2016/carroll-shelby-the-myth-and-the-man?fbclid=IwAR0LJonSQ_PkB3Vmao7JxqrT-rc-ODPzBgIlIZcb90QcSPuKWJ9mqdjKiCA
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: 2112 on November 22, 2019, 12:52:10 AM
Quote from: 6972boss on November 22, 2019, 12:26:57 AM
WOW, got about halfway through and just couldn't take anymore!!
My wife is very pro female, we have spirited discussions!
However, she was a big wig with Chase bank and liked to promote women first until she came across some bad female apples. We talked about that. I told her to scrap that way of thinking and take the best qualified for for the position. She scoffed at me initially....until I needed a painter in my resto shop....a good looking girl applied. My wife had strong words for me, saying she is a shoe in because her cup size. My reply was I could care less who or what they are as long as they can do the job! (She turned out to be a great asset to the shop and actually could lay color down like glass!) I used it as a great example to my wife and she has opened her eyes a little more to true equality.
Hannah sounds like one of those women who would rather bitch and complain about how things are and not put forth effort to step up and better herself and make good for the collective. What a waste of energy sniveling about the past. With an attitude like hers, she will be left behind.

I have met more than a few feminists who are all about womanly love and support.............until they run into another woman who is significantly more attractive.

Then it's game-on 👿
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Side-Oilers on November 22, 2019, 12:53:18 AM
^^^ HA!  YES!!!  That knocks the wind out of their sails pretty damn fast!!
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: ChicagoChris on November 22, 2019, 08:42:50 AM
If you don't like a movie preview, don't go to the movie.
If you don't like guns, don't buy one.
If you don't like income disparity, get another job.
If you don't like Capitalism, move to a country that doesn't have it.

God Bless America.
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: BGlover67 on November 22, 2019, 10:54:21 AM
Wow, she says the movie doesn't have enough diversity.  That could be fixed.  How about they reshoot the leads with Jackie Chan as Ken Miles and Chris Tucker as Carroll Shelby?  I could see that working.  :o
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: 2112 on November 22, 2019, 10:57:41 AM
Quote from: BGlover67 on November 22, 2019, 10:54:21 AM
Wow, she says the movie doesn't have enough diversity.  That could be fixed.  How about they reshoot the leads with Jackie Chan as Ken Miles and Chris Tucker as Carroll Shelby?  I could see that working.  :o

Nope, Chan and Tucker are straight (I think).
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: mark p on November 22, 2019, 01:29:51 PM
Quote from: ChicagoChris on November 22, 2019, 08:42:50 AM
If you don't like a movie preview, don't go to the movie....

+1
... and don't bother writing an absurd review
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: mark p on November 22, 2019, 06:25:17 PM
Also interesting that this "person"(?) selects one paradigm ("only straight white men") while the NPR review starts with:
In a deliciously digressive sequence of the rollicking Ford v Ferrari, Mollie (Outlander's Caitriona Balfe), the otherwise supportive wife of test car driver Ken Miles (Christian Bale), treats her husband to a taste of his own medicine after he unilaterally takes what ought to have been a joint family decision. Exasperated, Mollie propels Ken into a hair-raising speed-ride through hairpin bends in the staid family car...

Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: 427heaven on November 23, 2019, 08:23:55 AM
GREAT MOVIE... I had the pleasure of watching the movie and had an array of different emotions. After watching I learned what really happened back in the day and was appalled how the Corporation did things. Having both family and friends working for FORD motor company at that time it made me think how some decisions are made. Having the ability to see things from both sides, as I was one of the guys that were hands on with the tools for design and construction of different projects in an entirely different field. I also had the fortune to be one of the SUITS to see and do things, sitting in the captains seat of corporate AMERICA. Watching the movie with the wife, particularly the scene at the end when MILES was told to slow down... She turned to me and asked what would you have done? It was such a thought provoking question that I didn't know how I would have handled it. When racers line up to race they race to win not play into corp. semantics, bottom line on this story line is if you cant put food on the table you will do things a little differently like the SUITS told him to do. :'( KEN was the best driver at that time and needed to be treated as such. Corporate wants what they want, and when men and women dedicate their lives to the cause they should be treated accordingly. Back to family and friends at FORD MOTOR CO. They were treated the same way they treated (Miles) only they wore the suits and were the YES SIR men. Carma paid a visit to them later in life for all the things they said and did to all those below them, they reflect they should have done things differently. Life is not always fair.
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: 69mach351w on November 23, 2019, 09:14:02 AM
Quote from: Side-Oilers on November 21, 2019, 01:27:40 PM
Check out the reader comments to the article. I went about 6 pages deep and didn't find one that agreed with her.
++1
Actually I stopped reading her article after the 3rd paragraph 'cause I knew where it was headed ::)

I did read several comments and agreed with all I read ;D
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: FL SAAC on November 23, 2019, 02:33:43 PM
+1

ollie n.

Quote from: 427heaven on November 23, 2019, 08:23:55 AM
GREAT MOVIE... I had the pleasure of watching the movie and had an array of different emotions. After watching I learned what really happened back in the day and was appalled how the Corporation did things. Having both family and friends working for FORD motor company at that time it made me think how some decisions are made. Having the ability to see things from both sides, as I was one of the guys that were hands on with the tools for design and construction of different projects in an entirely different field. I also had the fortune to be one of the SUITS to see and do things, sitting in the captains seat of corporate AMERICA. Watching the movie with the wife, particularly the scene at the end when MILES was told to slow down... She turned to me and asked what would you have done? It was such a thought provoking question that I didn't know how I would have handled it. When racers line up to race they race to win not play into corp. semantics, bottom line on this story line is if you cant put food on the table you will do things a little differently like the SUITS told him to do. :'( KEN was the best driver at that time and needed to be treated as such. Corporate wants what they want, and when men and women dedicate their lives to the cause they should be treated accordingly. Back to family and friends at FORD MOTOR CO. They were treated the same way they treated (Miles) only they wore the suits and were the YES SIR men. Carma paid a visit to them later in life for all the things they said and did to all those below them, they reflect they should have done things differently. Life is not always fair.
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: QuickSilverShelby on November 23, 2019, 11:18:14 PM
I saw it for a second time today with a car bud of mine. When I saw it last Saturday at 3:20pm in IMAX the theater was about 1/4 full. I figured that was about right for a 60's car movie. Today at a 3:30 showing (no IMAX this time) and the theater was over 1/2 full.

I think the word is out on how good a show it is.

QSS
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: Shelby_r_b on November 24, 2019, 12:29:38 AM
I just saw the movie for the third time, and it does NOT lose its flavor for me.
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: rkm on November 24, 2019, 07:57:45 AM
Sold out at 7:30 last night in Toronto at the VIP.
Title: Re: Interesting take on the Movie
Post by: honker on November 24, 2019, 09:35:30 AM
Another review of the film.

Mike

https://www.motorsport.com/general/news/ford-ferrari-major-risk-mangold/4601973/