Wow. Dana Mecum just announced that the John Atzbach Collection will be coming to Mecum Indy. His R Model (The Flying Shelby) will be sold as well.
Wow...
https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2020/collections/john-atzbach-collection/
This is sad news. I hope John's health issues can be resolved. Take care John. Get better.
Cory
I wish John all of the best and will do anything that I can do if need be to help make his auctions the best they can possibly be.
Mr Gaines
A one and a two?
Agreed. In the collection summary, it mentions that he has some health issues; which really stinks. All the best and prayers to you, John!
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 11, 2020, 02:38:11 PM
Mr Gaines
A one and a two?
Pete is referring to 67 0002 . It would be nice to have book ends .
So sad to see this. John is the most dedicated early Shelby guy I know :(
Sorry to hear that John is having health issues. Prayers for John and his family.
My money is on Greg Miller buying 5R002. It could then be reunited at the Shelby American Collection with CSX2431 and GT40 P/1015. I believe these are the 3 most significant Shelby cars with significant Ken Miles history.
Can anyone confirm that Greg Miller was the buyer of the Bullitt Mustang?
Thanks,
Eric
John also owns 5S207, one of the 4 factory Drag cars. I wonder if he is keeping it or has already sold it privately?
Quote from: sfm5 on March 11, 2020, 05:00:37 PM
John also owns 5S207, one of the 4 factory Drag cars. I wonder if he is keeping it or has already sold it privately?
The two drag cars as well as one of the convertibles were sold privately recently.
Kind regards,
Vern
1966 GT-350 Convertible, has one of those ever been auctioned? Estimate?
Quote from: Krelboyne on March 11, 2020, 05:39:51 PM
1966 GT-350 Convertible, has one of those ever been auctioned? Estimate?
The red one was offered by worldwide some time back so yes.
Once John's Green example sells, I'm guessing all 4 examples will be essentially untouchable due to the quality of owners who will then have the cars.
Im guessing this is the last time someone is going to get a shot at one, frankly.
Kind regards,
Vern
The yellow convertible sold privately recently
Two of the cars are now in the same collection
Quote from: 67411F--0100-ENG. on March 11, 2020, 04:41:14 PM
My money is on Greg Miller buying 5R002. It could then be reunited at the Shelby American Collection with CSX2431 and GT40 P/1015. I believe these are the 3 most significant Shelby cars tied to Ken Miles.
Can anyone confirm that Greg Miller was the buyer of the Bullitt Mustang?
Thanks,
Eric
Very interesting that in the nearly two months since the auction, the buyer's name still remains a secret.
In these days of the internet knowing everything about everyone, I'm surprised that the name hasn't been revealed.
[quote author=Side-Oilers link=topic=9634.msg79757#msg79757 date=1583966403
Very interesting that in the nearly two months since the auction, the buyer's name still remains a secret.
In these days of the internet knowing everything about everyone, I'm surprised that the name hasn't been revealed.
[/quote] Can confirm it was a US buyer which is the most important thing IMHO.
John, You will be in our thoughts and prayers. I guess I won't be able to see your collection in Seattle. Ron and Cheryl McWilliams
Quote from: prototypefan on March 11, 2020, 06:21:22 PM
The yellow convertible sold privately recently
Two of the cars are now in the same collection
So the yellow and red car are together ?
I hope our fellow Shelby enthusiast is indeed ok.
Or gets better from whatever ails him.
Quote from: Bigfoot on March 11, 2020, 09:14:05 PM
I hope our fellow Shelby enthusiast is indeed ok.
Or gets better from whatever ails him.
+1
+2
John, so sorry to hear of your medical issues. You are in our thoughts.
Quote from: Grumpy on March 11, 2020, 03:52:19 PM
So sad to see this. John is the most dedicated early Shelby guy I know :(
+1
thoughts and prayers for John and his family.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 11, 2020, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: Coralsnake on March 11, 2020, 02:38:11 PM
Mr Gaines
A one and a two?
Pete is referring to 67 0002 . It would be nice to have book ends .
Wouldn't that mean you should really buy 3225?
Quote from: mark p on March 12, 2020, 01:10:34 PM
+1
thoughts and prayers for John and his family.
Yes, ^^^
I don't understand why John's name is both correctly spelled (Atzbach) and incorrectly spelled within this topic?? Were two topics merged?
Hi 68blk500c,
I have been sending notes to many of the posters to make the correction. Some have fixed and others have not. You can correct with "modify" in your own post. If everyone can fix their post that is still incorrect, we can get to one correct spelling. I got the OP to fix, so subsequent posts would be correct. The correct spelling is Atzbach, no "s".
Stay well
Cory
Good information, Cory. I encourage those folks to correct their posts so that it is right. John deserves to have his name properly known, especially in this audience.
Auction date moved back to June 23-28.
https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2020/collections/john-atzbach-collection/ (https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2020/collections/john-atzbach-collection/)
Quote from: silverton_ford on April 01, 2020, 09:31:33 PM
Auction date moved back to June 23-28.
https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2020/collections/john-atzbach-collection/ (https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2020/collections/john-atzbach-collection/)
Looking forward to that. I wish him the best of luck.
not so sure that new date will work.........if folks are allowed to congregate by then will they?............a lot of high dollar iron there......may have been better to push several months back
Does anyone know how we view all the lots? I mean the literature and memorabilia lots?
I wish John the best
Quote from: GT350Lad on April 02, 2020, 03:20:27 AM
Does anyone know how we view all the lots? I mean the literature and memorabilia lots?
I wish John the best
The memorabilia lots are currently being worked on for publication...there's thousands of lots which are just Shelby related memorabilia. Be sure to set aside hours at a time for going through the online catalog when it's published!
Kind regards,
Vern
Quote from: GT350Lad on April 02, 2020, 03:20:27 AM
Does anyone know how we view all the lots? I mean the literature and memorabilia lots?
I wish John the best
Book mark this page and check back often. https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/ (https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/)
I remember spending some quality time with Johns's collection looking over things and reading documents during breaks in working when I flew out to help prep the R model for its pebble Beach concours showing. It was unbelievable. The auction will be a chance like one will never get again to acquire some one of a kind Shelby memorabilia.
Quote from: Vernon Estes on April 02, 2020, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: GT350Lad on April 02, 2020, 03:20:27 AM
Does anyone know how we view all the lots? I mean the literature and memorabilia lots?
I wish John the best
The memorabilia lots are currently being worked on for publication...there's thousands of lots which are just Shelby related memorabilia. Be sure to set aside hours at a time for going through the online catalog when it's published!
Kind regards,
Vern
Thanks Vern and Bob
Amazing collection
Quote from: prototypefan on March 11, 2020, 06:21:22 PM
The yellow convertible sold privately recently
Two of the cars are now in the same collection
We used the yellow one way back when for a Mustang Illustrated cover with Jay Leno at Shelby's in Whittier. It was for sale and McClurg was trying to get Leno to buy it - but he was still a temp on the Tonight Show. Jay brought his Mark Garish built 427 Cobra.
Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 02, 2020, 10:42:40 AM
I remember spending some quality time with Johns's collection looking over things and reading documents during breaks in working when I flew out to help prep the R model for its pebble Beach concours showing. It was unbelievable.
Found footage of R002 with John and Jay Leno on this video. Starting about 8:30.
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I don't know Mr. Atzbach, only have heard and read about him and his collection, but I Guarantee you, I will be praying for him as well as his entire Family ;)
Quote from: 6s1640 on March 13, 2020, 11:51:58 PM
Hi 68blk500c,
I have been sending notes to many of the posters to make the correction. Some have fixed and others have not. You can correct with "modify" in your own post. If everyone can fix their post that is still incorrect, we can get to one correct spelling. I got the OP to fix, so subsequent posts would be correct. The correct spelling is Atzbach, no "s".
Stay well
Cory
On the Jay Leno skit Krelboyne posted at 8:30, they have John's name spelled "Alzbach" ???
I noticed that!
Very interesting interview - thanks for posting.
- Phillip
wow what a great memorabilia collection ,i can probably afford a can of Chili lol
Some pretty awesome cars in this auction. Now question is will it happen
I can't see that the memorabilia auction is up yet? Still probably a work in progress
update? Anybody?
Hard to believe this will still proceed at the end of June. Timing is everything. :o
Quote from: BGlover67 on April 28, 2020, 12:13:38 PM
Hard to believe this will still proceed at the end of June. Timing is everything. :o
+1
Mecum has not changed their plans for late June as of yet. If something like that were to happen, I will update the forum.
At the moment, most efforts are working towards getting the extreme quantity of Shelby memorabilia lot-ed and listed online. There will be hours of studying to be done by anyone who appreciates that sort of stuff when the items are posted.
Kind regards,
Vern
Quote from: Vernon Estes on April 28, 2020, 01:35:30 PM
Mecum has not changed their plans for late June as of yet. If something like that were to happen, I will update the forum.
At the moment, most efforts are working towards getting the extreme quantity of Shelby memorabilia lot-ed and listed online. There will be hours of studying to be done by anyone who appreciates that sort of stuff when the items are posted.
Kind regards,
Vern
Vern,
Is there any thought being given to archive all of the information so that it's not just an online catalog that will disappear after the auction? Seems like an opportunity to create an amazing reference library. Accessible to the public and backed up.
The timing could also be really good as everyone is tired of being quarantined and will be itching to spend $$$$. The persons that are going to be significant bidders on this collection will be limited IMO.
Quote from: Vernon Estes on April 28, 2020, 01:35:30 PM
At the moment, most efforts are working towards getting the extreme quantity of Shelby memorabilia lot-ed and listed online. There will be hours of studying to be done by anyone who appreciates that sort of stuff when the items are posted.
Kind regards,
Vern
That itself is a huge job. NOS stuff packed in the showcases with storys of course. Seeing it in person was mindbogglingly. You didn't know what to look at next. Wish I were younger. I was a parts hoarder. ;D
Quote from: Vernon Estes on April 28, 2020, 01:35:30 PM
Mecum has not changed their plans for late June as of yet. If something like that were to happen, I will update the forum.
At the moment, most efforts are working towards getting the extreme quantity of Shelby memorabilia lot-ed and listed online. There will be hours of studying to be done by anyone who appreciates that sort of stuff when the items are posted.
Kind regards,
Vern
Vern,
Any idea's when they will post some of the art work he has ?
John
Does John Barnes ever post on the saac site as a lot of Atzbachs memorabilia came from him and Rick Radke since they along with Jeff Burgy were collecting this stuff back in 70s and 80s and they were the go to guys back then that knew this stuff but you never hear anything about them anymore so I guess they were just old skool guys now.
Quote from: Special Ed on May 05, 2020, 10:41:01 PM
Does John Barnes ever post on the saac site as a lot of Atzbachs memorabilia came from him and Rick Radke since they along with Jeff Burgy were collecting this stuff back in 70s and 80s and they were the go to guys back then that knew this stuff but you never hear anything about them anymore so I guess they were just old skool guys now.
Some of the collection came from John Barnes. He doesn't have much any more because of that . He is not on this forum much. I don't know what happened to Rick Radke but heard he had sold out too.
Quote from: Harris Speedster on May 05, 2020, 08:20:48 PM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on April 28, 2020, 01:35:30 PM
Mecum has not changed their plans for late June as of yet. If something like that were to happen, I will update the forum.
At the moment, most efforts are working towards getting the extreme quantity of Shelby memorabilia lot-ed and listed online. There will be hours of studying to be done by anyone who appreciates that sort of stuff when the items are posted.
Kind regards,
Vern
Vern,
Any idea's when they will post some of the art work he has ?
John
Soon! Will update the thread when it happens!
Quote from: Rodster-500 on May 05, 2020, 07:41:19 AM
Quote from: Vernon Estes on April 28, 2020, 01:35:30 PM
Mecum has not changed their plans for late June as of yet. If something like that were to happen, I will update the forum.
At the moment, most efforts are working towards getting the extreme quantity of Shelby memorabilia lot-ed and listed online. There will be hours of studying to be done by anyone who appreciates that sort of stuff when the items are posted.
Kind regards,
Vern
Vern,
Is there any thought being given to archive all of the information so that it's not just an online catalog that will disappear after the auction? Seems like an opportunity to create an amazing reference library. Accessible to the public and backed up.
While it's a good idea in theory...it took me 8 days working from 9am till at least 1030-midnight depending on the day to simply put my hands on every piece and organize them into lots which the mecum people could then data entry into their system. While I'd love to be a part of something like what youre mentioning, that's something which would take an immense amount of time to do and that's time that we didn't have when you consider all the things that have to happen to put a sale on of this magnitude, unfortunately.
Quote from: Vernon Estes on May 06, 2020, 12:36:29 AM
While it's a good idea in theory...it took me 8 days working from 9am till at least 1030-midnight depending on the day to simply put my hands on every piece and organize them into lots which the mecum people could then data entry into their system. While I'd love to be a part of something like what youre mentioning, that's something which would take an immense amount of time to do and that's time that we didn't have when you consider all the things that have to happen to put a sale on of this magnitude, unfortunately.
Wake up earlier! ;D Just kidding.
Understand. At least we will have an auction catalog to reference.
Thanks,
Rod
Moved back to July 10-18.
Here's the info:
"After reviewing Governor Eric Holcomb's recent release of Indiana's "Back on Track" plan, Mecum has rescheduled Dana Mecum's 33rd Original Spring Classic for July 10-18, 2020, which will position the auction safely beyond the state's plan for achieving a status of "fully open" across the board.
In addition, Mecum has expanded the event to span 9 auction days, providing the opportunity for 2,500 consignments to join what is destined to become an epic return to live collector car auctions."
Items are up!! https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/ (https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/)
Lots of stuff from the collection was originally procured by John Barnes including these two gems; Carroll's drawers (https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-430033/carroll-shelby-underwear-shadow-box-memorabilia/) and Table Scraps (https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-430034/shelby-carroll-shelby-bed-sheet-and-menu-lot-of-3/). ;D
John told me both of these stories when I bought his GT350. I had a hard time believing him, but there's the proof. Crazy!
Ready to bid when it's open. :)
Sorry if this is a repost;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=34&v=tVJOGIyGoJo&feature=emb_logo
Is this auction going to be online or live in-person?
Quote from: kjspeed on May 11, 2020, 05:45:32 PM
Lots of stuff from the collection was originally procured by John Barnes including these two gems; Carroll's drawers (https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-430033/carroll-shelby-underwear-shadow-box-memorabilia/) and Table Scraps (https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-430034/shelby-carroll-shelby-bed-sheet-and-menu-lot-of-3/). ;D
John told me both of these stories when I bought his GT350. I had a hard time believing him, but there's the proof. Crazy!
...wow...underwear shadow box??? :o
Wow. I just went through the lots. There's some AMAZING stuff in there!
I felt a great disturbance in the Force. It was as if millions of Shelby pieces suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced by Brian Glover.
You guys just wait till you see the rest of the stuff...what is posted online so far is only the tip of the iceberg..
Quote from: Shelby_r_b on May 11, 2020, 07:02:03 PM
Wow. I just went through the lots. There's some AMAZING stuff in there!
I felt a great disturbance in the Force. It was as if millions of Shelby pieces suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced by Brian Glover.
;D ;D ;D
That original artwork is tha bomb!!
If I had the means I would go for all of that big time, plus any Dan Gurney stuff.
And if John purchased a lot of John Barnes' collection then chances are good some of my father-in-laws Hertz stuff is present - which if it is, is very, very cool.
- Phillip
Quote from: Rickmustang on May 11, 2020, 06:26:18 PM
Is this auction going to be online or live in-person?
Yeah, can we bid online or do we have to call in or be there in person? I don't think the borders will be open to travel in July so there's no way I could even think of going.
QSS
Quote from: QuickSilverShelby on May 12, 2020, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: Rickmustang on May 11, 2020, 06:26:18 PM
Is this auction going to be online or live in-person?
Yeah, can we bid online or do we have to call in or be there in person? I don't think the borders will be open to travel in July so there's no way I could even think of going.
QSS
Bidding will be available online, on the phone, and in person!
Kind regards,
Vern
Amazing stuff. Looking forward to it. Got a few things I'll be bidding on
Cheers
Who is calling dibs on the underwear?
I like this :o
https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429890/carroll-shelby-mcdonalds-cup/
Will July 10th be the date the bidding opens online, phone and in person?
Keep us posted Vernon if you get info before anyone else.
Quote from: 69mach351w on May 13, 2020, 01:10:51 PM
I like this :o
https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429890/carroll-shelby-mcdonalds-cup/
That is crazy.
Quote from: 2112 on May 13, 2020, 02:32:01 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on May 13, 2020, 01:10:51 PM
I like this :o
https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429890/carroll-shelby-mcdonalds-cup/
That is crazy.
That J. Paul Neese bronze is calling my name!
Quote from: silverton_ford on May 11, 2020, 04:43:19 PM
Items are up!! https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/ (https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/)
I click to register to bid and it states the auction has concluded??
Eddie Vannoy road art collection comes up, but I would rather register for the Atzbach collection.
Any help appreciated ;)
Now, I'm trying to send a message to the bidding team and it says "unable to verify
CAPTCHA ?? I know that has something to do with NOT being a robot, but it gave me a green check mark, but message still wouldn't go through. Hmmm?
Quote from: 69mach351w on May 13, 2020, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: silverton_ford on May 11, 2020, 04:43:19 PM
Items are up!! https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/ (https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indy-roadart-2020/lots/)
I click to register to bid and it states the auction has concluded??
Eddie Vannoy road art collection comes up, but I would rather register for the Atzbach collection.
Any help appreciated ;)
Are you on this site? The online bidder log in is at the top of the page.
https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2020/collections/john-atzbach-collection/
I'm wanting to register for the Indy Road Art 2020 Collection, not the Indy 2020.
There's a difference.
I've been trying not to get too excited. My only fear is that all the stuff I've worked so hard to collect over the last few years will suddenly be worth half when all this comes flooding onto the market. :o
Quote from: 69mach351w on May 13, 2020, 09:13:22 PM
I'm wanting to register for the Indy Road Art 2020 Collection, not the Indy 2020.
There's a difference.
It gets confusing....for the Steven Juliano auction you had to register for both the Road Art and also their On Time platform.
I suspect that John's items will be the same.
Larger memorabilia and ephemera items in the Road Art and the smaller items on the automatic On Time platform.
Probably going to be too rich for my wallet anyway. But thought it'd be cool to get to watch it live and see how things progress in price.
Quote from: 69mach351w on May 13, 2020, 09:13:22 PM
I'm wanting to register for the Indy Road Art 2020 Collection, not the Indy 2020.
There's a difference.
Click the Road Art tab at the top of the linked page I attached, scroll down to register to bid (you will be given a choice on which auction you wish to participate in) and you are set once you complete their questions.
Quote from: 69mach351w on May 13, 2020, 01:10:51 PM
I like this :o
https://www.mecum.com/lots/RM0520-429890/carroll-shelby-mcdonalds-cup/
kinda like the guy that auctioned Elivis Presleys toothpick......