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Title: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: gt350shelb on April 05, 2020, 10:08:09 AM
one i have not seen before
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: gt350shelb on April 05, 2020, 10:09:01 AM
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Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: 557 on April 05, 2020, 10:11:24 AM
So the vette was late on the mid engine scene then????LOL
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: Coralsnake on April 05, 2020, 10:20:40 AM
Great pictures!

That looks like the start of the Mach 2
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: Coralsnake on April 05, 2020, 10:22:32 AM
http://www.thecoralsnake.com/History7.HTML
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: roddster on April 05, 2020, 10:39:52 AM
  I agree with Coralsnake.  Certainly has the correct time frame for the Mach2.  Had to be a great job working in the styling studio on stuff like that.
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: JD on April 05, 2020, 11:56:36 AM
Quote from: gt350shelb on April 05, 2020, 10:08:09 AM
one i have not seen before

Thanks for posting never saw this before, interesting the date of these too.
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: prototypefan on April 05, 2020, 12:10:52 PM
Sure resembles a GT40 bulkhead
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: propayne on April 05, 2020, 12:34:43 PM
New to me also - thanks for posting.

Anybody recognize where the photos were taken?

Bumper on that first pic definitely reminded me of the Mach 2

- Phillip

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/134-050420123216.jpeg)
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: 2112 on April 05, 2020, 12:36:57 PM
Boy, carry those flying buttresses back another 12-18 inches and you have a Ferrari 308 GTB 10 years ahead of the Italians.
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: shelbydoug on April 05, 2020, 01:45:16 PM
The Mach II is built on one of the bare Cobra chassis that Ford took from Shelby.
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: Coralsnake on April 05, 2020, 02:05:27 PM
Are you sure about that Doug?
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: Coralsnake on April 05, 2020, 02:07:36 PM
https://www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/mustang-rare-the-1967-ford-mach-2/

Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: prototypefan on April 05, 2020, 02:09:50 PM
Quote from: propayne on April 05, 2020, 12:34:43 PM
New to me also - thanks for posting.

Anybody recognize where the photos were taken?

Bumper on that first pic definitely reminded me of the Mach 2

- Phillip

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/134-050420123216.jpeg)

Frank Reisner's company Intermeccanica had the Griffith/Omega/Italia.....I believe the car was started in 1965 and debuted in NY 1966. Sure looks like many of the styling cues of the Mach 2 were taken from Intermeccanica
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: 98SVT - was 06GT on April 05, 2020, 02:10:55 PM
It's the 2025 Mustang - it'll be electric.
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: prototypefan on April 05, 2020, 02:12:26 PM
Seeing Coralsnakes link......the Mach2 looks like the Intermeccanica in the front and side with a Lotus Europa in the rear

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=intermeccanica+griffith&FORM=HDRSC2

Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: propayne on April 05, 2020, 02:32:50 PM
According to the awesome book "Kar-Kraft, Race Cars, Prototypes and Muscle Cars" by Charlie Henry the Mach 2 was built on the frame of a 1967 Mustang convertible (tho from what I can see of it it looks like a earlier Mustang?).

Below is a scan of a photo by Jim Mason from Henry's book - lots more info on this and all the other cool and wacky stuff built at KK.

If you don't have a copy, run out and get one.

- Phillip

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/134-050420143144.jpeg)
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: prototypefan on April 05, 2020, 03:04:01 PM
Great book!!!

Love the blue dots.
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: gt350shelb on April 05, 2020, 08:05:33 PM
definitely a 65 or 66 body
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: Coralsnake on April 05, 2020, 08:32:46 PM
Agreed, a 67 would be too late
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: J_Speegle on April 05, 2020, 09:38:22 PM
Quote from: propayne on April 05, 2020, 02:32:50 PM
According to the awesome book "Kar-Kraft, Race Cars, Prototypes and Muscle Cars" by Charlie Henry the Mach 2 was built on the frame of a 1967 Mustang convertible (tho from what I can see of it it looks like a earlier Mustang?).

Yes 64-66 body panels (quarters, B pillar, cowl side to mention a few)  with some non- Mustang panels ( such as forward drivers side inner fender panel) and possibly a seat pan similar to the two seater prototypes like the Mustang I. Though it does have what looks to be R model wheels and blue dots :)

Cool look but there were so many attempts and concepts in the early years as we have seen.
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: propayne on April 30, 2020, 03:28:29 PM
Saw this while thumbing through my May 1967 issue of Road & Track.

- Phillip

(http://www.saacforum.com/gallery/134-300420152704.jpeg)
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: 67 GT350 on April 30, 2020, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: 557 on April 05, 2020, 10:11:24 AM
So the vette was late on the mid engine scene then????LOL

And that back end is ugly on the Vette...
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: Bossbill on April 30, 2020, 09:59:11 PM
Looks like the Opel GT stole the front fender but removed the vents:
(https://i1.wp.com/autohub.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Opel-GT-Seitenansicht-lightbox-6e6e8380-808145.jpg?fit=900%2C600&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Mustang not shelby but different
Post by: TransamEd on May 01, 2020, 06:08:33 AM
The red Mach II street concept car was built on a 67 convertible body, not an early body, the white competition version was built separately at Kar Kraft on a different chassis.
(http://www.ponysite.de/mach2racecartom.jpg)(http://www.ponysite.de/mach2racecartom2.jpg) Pictures courtesy Tom/KK

The case about the early chassis is still cold and not closed. 3 prototypes are mentioned in early documents.