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I bet there are lot's of great stories Charlie could tell !!
I think the story is from "The 24 Hr. War",
Charlie Agapiou is punching holes in the floor of GT/104 at Sebring 1965 to drain the water collecting in the cockpit,
and he's swinging a knockoff hammer between Phil Hills' legs, Phil's trying to jump out to protect the jewels and Carroll is shoving him back in the car!

jim p

The Lounge / Re: Netflix- The 24 Hour War
« on: December 02, 2019, 12:43:48 PM »
Support the producers, buy both on DVD or BluRay, $15-$18 each, at

I purchased the "The 24 Hr War" DVD earlier this year and plan to add the new "Shelby American".

Also on u-tube watch the Bob Bondurant video's (2), great production quality!

jim p

1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Coil Spring and leaf spring markings
« on: November 10, 2019, 07:06:22 PM »
I noted in the Chuck Cantwell book he mentions that early in the 66 builds (15" wheels) they had front tire contact with the fender like the 65's.
The story in the book was they specified convertible front coils on later DSO's.  Is there DSO documentation of this change?

It appears the fastback, hardtop "GT", HiPo, "66 HD" spring C5zz-F was #1413 lb rated with red paint stripe,
the convertible GT, HiPo, A/C spring was C5zz-E # 1491 lb rated with brown stripe.

Later they replaced the F (red) with the E (brown).

jim p

Up For Auction / Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 in Phoenix, Az.
« on: October 23, 2019, 01:25:36 PM »
Is an FMX a C4 in a cast iron case?

No  I'm not a trans expert but prior to the release of the C6, the FMX was used as the "heavier duty" trans in the large car ( Galaxy & Lincoln) & light truck.
I seem to recall it was also used in 427 Cobra automatics.

jim p

Then what is it?

Up For Auction / Re: 1969 Shelby GT350 in Phoenix, Az.
« on: October 22, 2019, 12:39:02 PM »
Is an FMX a C4 in a cast iron case?


jim p

1968 Shelby GT350/500/500KR / Re: Top End Rebuild Advice
« on: October 22, 2019, 12:30:04 PM »
"about 1,000 miles and 15 years ago"

This car appears to not get exercised much, that's less than 100 miles / yr.
What you intend to do with the car would also factor into the repair strategy, IMHO.
If past usage continues going forward,  then would a " repair only what's broken" be logical??

I agree with other comments, a holistic appraisal with knowledgeable machinist / technician with consideration to expected use and budget is prudent.

jim p

The Lounge / Re: Attention: Scammers on this website
« on: October 11, 2019, 12:30:21 PM »
I had a similar experience as Pete when selling an antique household appliance a number of years ago.
I talked to an extended family member that was a FBI agent who advised me to turn over all my evidence ( I actually had the bogus money orders )
to the FBI cyber crimes taskforce. For these "low" dollar incidents they won't waste time going after them, however often all the various reports lead back to a
central group of criminals perpetrating these scams.  I hope my little piece of information helped send one of the offenders to the "crossbar hotel"!

jim p

Shelby American History / FAV Ford GT Transporter(s)
« on: October 04, 2019, 01:07:10 PM »
I came across this online, I don't have the source noted
I was thinking they were used during the unsuccessful 1964 campaign.
It appears to be the side of the FAV building in the background.

jim p

1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Owner of 6S2376 Yellow convertible
« on: October 01, 2019, 12:09:12 PM »
......... thought the quality of the paint finish was pretty marginal.....

Just thinking out loud here,
comparing the quality of a small number of boutique shop builds to cars built in the mid 60's when the quality controls were much poorer
it would seem Ford did pretty good when the initial sales volume estimate was perhaps 25,000~50,000 units /yr, and they ended up making over 1/2 million 65's.

I'm not making a comment on the continuation cars specifically, but just that when you're challenged to stretch any production program that far beyond forecast
you usually see all kinds of quality spills, i.e. recalls, fixes, field service bulletins. I know the expectations of the consumer was quite different then,
but all-in-all they built 1.167 M 65/66 cars that with Chuck Cantwell & crew's mods handed Corvette's lunch to them !
Not bad for a "silly secretary's re-skin'd Falcon" !

jim p

the bezel is the 66 GT/pony version

jim p

The Lounge / Re: Arbitrator
« on: September 25, 2019, 01:01:09 PM »

Back then, Freddie Decordova. the shows producer, didn''t save all tapes. He regularly taped over them to save money. That happened to the Garner tape according to him. Too bad. It was a gem.

I had a similar experience, a number of years ago on our local Detroit talk radio JWR AM760, the morning host (who's a car guy) was at SEMA and interviewed Bob Bondurant. Bob talked about how the school got started following his serious accident and retirement from racing, selling the Cobra coupe for start-up $'s.
He mentioned in the 1st couple of classes was Jim Garner and Paul Newman, who he judged as the 2 most gifted drivers in Hollywood. He told how Paul didn't want to be known as "the movie actor" at the track so he went by the moniker "Mr Leonard" ( his middle name). He liked to just hang around the track in jeans & tee shirt, drinking Bud from a can and talking "cars" with the guys. He also said Jim Garner could have persued professional driving had he wanted to.
anyway later I called the station to see if they had tape of the broadcast and would they sell/share it, the reply was they only save the tape for a few weeks !
I think that recording would get a ton of hits on social media today !

best regards,
jim p

Shelby American History / Re: The Movie
« on: September 20, 2019, 12:47:06 PM »
The UK Guardian review of the movie pans it as "handsomely produced but tiringly acted and inert sports drama about two good olí boys from the self-admiring world of motor racing", and "it is crammed with unearned emotional moments and factory-built male characters whose dedication to their sport we are expected to find adorable and heroic by turns. This is a standard-issue, middleweight biopic-type film.....this blandly sentimental movie, which canít reach out beyond the petrolhead fanbase".

Perhaps the Brit's don't like us "petrolheads",  ..... as I recall we whup'd them twice ! 1776 & 1812....  8)


jim p

The Lounge / Re: Ford's, Mustangs and Shelbys in foreign lands
« on: September 17, 2019, 12:39:59 PM »
in beautiful downtown afghanistan

John Wick on the loose !!!

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: FOUND! 1967 Shelby GT350 Barn Find - 1 of 1
« on: September 16, 2019, 12:20:30 PM »
Some of the AC / heater components are getting a refresh, and here you can see the original evaporator unit.

I thought it was really interesting to see the original stickers placed; which not only denote the date, but also the time.  I'm guessing this is when the evaporator was first completed versus when it was installed - is that correct?  Or, was the unit tested and then marked with the date / time?


Likely the HVAC assembly was built either at Ford Saline, Rawsonvill or Sheldon Rd. plant, all in SE Mich.
They were part of the internal Ford supply chain = GPD ( General Parts Division ) as the tag denotes.
I don't recall which would have built Fairlane/Mustang/Cougar components. I think they're all closed now ??

jim p

1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Brakes
« on: September 16, 2019, 12:06:06 PM »
I have had this happen and found the front rubber brake hoses were the cause. They would not let the fluid flow back.


This is common even on newer generation cars, usually with higher time & mileage, the inner wall of the rubber hose section separates from the fabric reinforcement/outer wall allowing fluid to pass into the cavity creating a temporary blockage to prevent fluid pressure release, holding the piston pressure for a period of time. Then the pressure bleeds off without the applied pressure in the line, the pistons relax and the brake frees up.


jim p

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