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1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: Recent sale of an R code 65 Shelby Mustang
« on: February 07, 2024, 05:25:56 PM »
This car was owned by Dr. Ed Recknegal (1977 to 2000) of Enid Oklahoma, RIP.  He told me that the owner (Larry Zane) of the R-model gave him cash and 5R212 for the wrecked Alan Mann GT40.  I understood the GT40 was wrecked by two teenage boys joy riding the car in Enid.  I am not sure if the car was stolen or borrowed.  When Dr. Recknegal told me the story, he may have adjusted the facts.   Dr. Rechnegal purchased the wrecked hulk, likely plans to take the engine out and put into another race car.

In circa 2000, the R-model was part of a ten car purchased from Phil Gallant (Gallant's Truck Salvage, Oceanside California) along with a 1965 GT350 (5S312), 1966 GT350, Shelby TransAm car, plus others.  This was recorded in an article in the Rear Scoop.  I also understood the 1965 GT350 was included as partial payment for the restoration of 5R212.  A review of the 2011 registry does not reflect this account.  So I am not certain of the accuracy, but I believe Randy Gilles told it to me.  I bought the 1966 GT350 from Phil.

Fred Hilbert (5R094) in Wichita Kansas likely saw some track time with Dr. Recknegal and 5R212 at Hallett Raceway Oklahoma and Lake Afton, west of Wichita Ks.

What's crazy, I looked at 5R212 in  Dr. Recknegal's shop in June 1986, still sitting in post race form, with a broom leaning against the car and a pizza box on the roof.  When I find the one photo I took, I will post.

Cory

FWIW, I heard one of the boys was housesitting for the GT40’s owner when he and his buddy took the car out for a joy ride and wrecked it speeding over an elevated part of the road with train tracks. I believe the passenger was killed in the accident. When Recknegal purchased the car he pulled the engine and put it into a 66 k-code coupe which was raced in the region for a couple of years or so until it threw the drive shaft through the floorboard. Luckily the driver has not seriously injured but the car was retired and engine was removed, with the k-code parked in a field for many years. I got this information from the driver in El Reno a few years ago.

The k-code was not sold with the 10 other Recknegal cars circa 2000 despite several attempts by multiple people to pry it loose. Recknegal’s mechanic eventually bought it and eventually sold it to me and I still have it. Alas, I do not have the GT40 engine that once resided in the car! Its whereabouts is unknown as far as I know. Welcome corrections. 

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Not a Shelby but of possible interest, this 65 k-code convertible sold at B-J for $165k.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1965-FORD-MUSTANG-GT-K-CODE-CONVERTIBLE-271076

5F08K337291

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Concours Talk / Re: rotunda red oil filter
« on: September 25, 2021, 08:51:03 PM »
Thanks for that info Bob. New info to me! Is there a rule of thumb on which 65 GT350s should/could have the red service filter?

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Concours Talk / Re: rotunda red oil filter
« on: September 25, 2021, 07:05:13 PM »
The red oil filter you show is a service replacement part. I will defer to others re which filter was used on the Cobra and the RLL-9 question, but the original 65 GT350 filter was painted black and featured a yellow Rotunda stamp. Images can be found by searching this site. But the red filter wasn’t original to the cars. (The filter was painted blue on the engine in 66).

That said, the black and stamped filter for 65 is otherwise the same as your red filter. Some folks have taken to repainting and stamping the red service replacement filters to mimic the black assembly line version. It’s not easy to do properly (ask me how I know) but excellent results are possible with the right combination of artwork, stamp material, technique, paint and obsessive determination.

FWIW, I will speculate that the rough paint on the end of your red filter is simply damage caused to the surface somewhere over the past 60 years.

Good luck.

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Up For Auction / Re: 6S637 - on Bring A Trailer
« on: March 12, 2021, 11:03:12 PM »
What would be the solution?

If your friend Dwight had kept a receipt of his payout, could he have paid it back to the insurance company and regained ownership?

When you’re paid by the insurance company for a property loss it becomes their property. Any appreciation or depreciation in the value that occurs afterward is their gain or loss. Cars. Stamps. Art. Furniture. Whatever. There’s is no receipt or record that changes that in the vast majority of cases.

Typically the special items go to auction and the prior owner can opt to buy it just like anyone else. Sometimes, on a lucky day, the insurer will negotiate a purchase price with the previous owner. It helps if the property was recovered within two years of the claim or hasn’t appreciated materially.







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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 22, 2021, 12:43:42 AM »
Looks like a Falcon 'vert?

Terrific photo.

- Phillip

I was thinking Fairlane or Galaxy 500 due to dash trim.

But only guessing

In the original post I included that the vehicle is a Falcon.


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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 21, 2021, 01:20:25 PM »


A few days late, but here is MLK Jr. with children Yolanda and MLK III riding in a Falcon on Ford’s Magic Skyway at the New York World’s Fair, 1964.

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Concours Talk / Re: Freeze plugs for 65 289 question
« on: January 21, 2021, 12:40:46 PM »
I am more acquainted with the “1-1/2” stamped version that Charles mentioned, although as previously discussed, the paint and position often obscure such details. Nonetheless, I would be interested in hearing further thoughts on those variations in stamping.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Checkered Flag : Jim Cowles (acman63)
« on: January 05, 2021, 06:55:03 PM »
Very sorry to hear this. Thoughts are with his family and his many friends in the Shelby community and beyond.

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Appeals / Re: '67 K Codes
« on: December 18, 2020, 02:43:46 PM »
I came across this car on Reddit; I don’t personally know the owner or the car but did ask some questions.

He has the build sheet and Marti report, indicating it was an original 4-speed with the heavy duty handling package, F70-14 wide oval white sidewalls with wheel covers, deluxe interior and heavy duty battery. One-of-one for folks who care about that. I don’t know about the original color. The current owner lives in Kent (SE of London) and shared that the car was exported to Belgium from the US then to the UK. It does get driven.

FWIW, he said his Marti report shows 489 Kcodes in ‘67, and 205 were fastbacks with a 4-speed.

The owner shared a few pics of the exterior. I’ve included another one here. I hope this is helpful!



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Appeals / Re: '67 K Codes
« on: December 17, 2020, 01:33:34 PM »
On the topic of 67 k-codes, here is one owned by a fellow in the UK for about 30 years. Says it has the original engine.



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1968 Shelby GT350/500/500KR / Re: Backfire
« on: April 20, 2019, 10:51:52 PM »
Yep you were right but timing marks gave the wrong reading and point gap had to be reduced from standard due to movement in the dizzy shaft.

All in all a great result and good info for anyone else chasing a difficult to diagnose problem.

That's the benefit of this forum.....

Thanks for sharing the cause and outcome, especially since this is not on the shortlist for most!

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Ask a Registrar / Re: 65 GT350 Registrar
« on: April 20, 2019, 10:44:03 PM »
Been discussed in some circles many a time but its a big project and most have their hands full of other projects and efforts.

At least one of the clubs has started to lay the groundwork but it's been ten years or about that so far and they have included only maybe 5% of some of the details, no numbers (except for a hand full) and no pictures. Prior efforts either had allot of details or very few, non-searchable and lacked other details some would like. Some owners have done shorter lists just for their car since changing assembly plant, year and even month can change the details.

Have a copy of one man's efforts and it only covered 66 Mustang engine compartment (without engine) and it was 3 inches thick and took over 5 years. It went pretty deep but that was his choice and his project. Never made it to distribution. So you can see gauge what an effort might be like.

But it all starts somewhere so would invite you, if so have the time (years) and drive to start something. Might want to hopefully you are retired, have no cars that need attention and have a very understanding wife.

Just my observations and experiences.

Ha! Jeff, is this your version of the hard sell?

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The Lounge / Re: What happened to the Hipo 289 forums?!
« on: January 09, 2019, 10:26:36 PM »
It appears the hipomustang.com site has been revived, but without the forum.

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Thanks for sharing, and congratulations on the purchase.

The Thunderbolt hood is great to see, since so many Fords in that era raced with those.

And great that you have a pic of it racing! I am jealous, as a few years ago I picked up a 66 k code coupe that had been raced and parked. While it came with the racing stable and driver name still painted on the doors, I haven’t been able to track down a photo of the car from that period. (At least, not yet. Still searching.)



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