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Messages - Bob Gaines

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The Lounge / Re: Went to the pharmacy today.......
« on: Today at 10:48:28 AM »
When i first saw this post headline i thought it must be from either "Coral the Viper Snake" or "Tony the Florida Hurricane"

But Randy.....OK

So it's turned to Gun Choice.

Glocks, Mp5s, 1911s, all good choices

Or 140 year old classics, an't that what we about.

Average shooter (me) practice stage 23 on target shots in 27 seconds, with 4 guns = a lot of dead perps.

BTW a fast shooter can do that in 12 seconds.

Anyway we are in the lounge.

Video clip below...
Well done indeed. ;D

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Wanted to Buy / Re: 67 GT front sway bar
« on: Today at 10:35:33 AM »
Big block and small block sway bars are technically not the same.
They are in the context of 67/68 Shelby and competition suspension cars. ;)  OP did not correct Going Thing when he said he would search for 15/16 bar so unclear if looking for 67 Mustang GT or Shelby GT on a Shelby forum.

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1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: Exhaust system detail
« on: Today at 10:25:46 AM »
Keep in mind that photos like this were typically staged.  SA installed the running horse emblem in the grille, it wasn't ordered from Ford that way.  Only the first 3 cars came with fender emblems, so the LH running horse would have been an additional item acquired from Ford parts.

Thanks Charles for the education!  I can't imagine them painting the tail pipes black after the fact, did they?
For 1966 SA did not have to fool with the intermediate pipe or tailpipes. I have not seen evidence of 65 or 66 duel non GT tips painted black from the factory or SA.The didn't stick out and were out of sight out of mind for the most part. The 65 side pipe ends I believe came both ways. Of course I think black painted side pipes would be preferred given rusted ends would be in your face every time you got in the car. Whether or not the ends were square cut or angle cut ,early late thing etc. is another loaded question/subject.

Bob, thank you and that leads me into my next question square vs. angle.  I have also seen them both ways and common sense would tell me that the pipe was straight as SA wasn't necessarily concerned with cosmetics as much as performance.  I know there has to be a common "acceptance" among the Shelby community.  So from a judge perspective, if the entire exhaust was black and the tail pipe end cut straight would be acceptable in a concours class?  Thanks again.
I would find a vintage picture (there are many different vintage magizine shots) to support the way you do it so that if the issue comes up at a concours venue you have proveneince for what you did.   

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Those are extremely cool looking

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Parts For Sale / NOS 67 GT350 Emblems
« on: Today at 12:57:47 AM »
I have two GT350 dash grill and trunklid emblems. I started off with NOS emblems that I bought from the original supplier years ago with the idea of replating some plastic original holders and gluing the emblems into them just like the way the fender emblems are done. I haven't gotten around to sending off the plastic holders to be refinished yet but decide to do the same thing using the chrome diecast holder that the repros use. The die cast repro holders will stand up to the elements much better then the plastic holder and is one of the only repro items that is better then original.they are identical in appearance.  I put the NOS emblems into the diecast chrome holders. If you look at the back side of the emblems in the second picture you will see the blueish backing paper the original emblems used. In the third picture you can see a comparison of what one of the original emblems looks like next to one of the mustard colored background repros. The last NOS plastic emblems I sold was almost two years ago . I haven't had any luck finding more . I typically get 400.00 each plus shipping for those NOS GT350 plastic emblems from those wanting all original because they are so rare. I will sell this pair that are identical in appearance for 350.00 plus 8.30 shipping or 14.20 with insurance.That is 175.00 ea compared to 400.00. Remember they are identical in appearance because they have NOS emblems. I have enough emblems to make one more pair.  I also have a single NOS GT350 fender emblem only .It is the last one I have. 50.00 plus 7.85 shipping. US shipping only. PM me if interested. Thank you.   

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 67 Gt500 Fan shroud replacement
« on: June 02, 2020, 11:20:27 PM »
Thanks Bob & i understand they ain't gonna be cheap & could you send me Jason's contact info if you get a chance ,i'm not familiar with all the locals around here just yet.
https://billupsclassiccars.com/index.html

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 67 Gt500 Fan shroud replacement
« on: June 02, 2020, 10:49:48 PM »
So my car came with out the elusive fan shroud & i assume i'll never find one, in the mean time i'm looking for the best replacement repop ,i found this one on Ebay looks to have some kinda textured fiberglass finish & part # on it,or are there any better repop recommendations & i did confirm i have an original 23" radiator with the Fomoco stamp .Unless someone has one tucked away lmk i'd pay good $ for it & would promise not to put a caution fan sticker on it  :)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Mustang-Shelby-Big-Block-Fan-Shroud-390-428-Injection-molded-Reproduction/164167222885?fits=Year%3A1967%7CModel%3AMustang&hash=item2639210665:g:Wl8AAOSwPhdU7ndw
I think that is the only current one being reproduced. I would try Jason Billups if you just have to have a original. He has taken in some shattered ones and made them whole again in the past. Expect to pay the market rate for all the time it takes to make one whole again AND look good . That is if he even has one at the moment.

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The Lounge / Re: Replica seized
« on: June 02, 2020, 10:43:40 PM »
A couple cars were kicked out of BJ auction this Jan 2020 because they did not have the paperwork that said they were licensed . I think it is 30K and you get a certificate of authenticity and some emblems that it magically became a Elinor regardless of build quality .

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Tail Light Assembly Protective End Caps
« on: June 02, 2020, 10:18:36 PM »
Is there a source for the protective end caps installed over the tail light assembly fasteners?  Could one of the readers please include image(s) of original example(s)?

Mustang thing - Not Shelby ;)
Just to clarify I believe Jeff is saying that there are Mustangs that used caps over exposed studs in the trunk to prevent damage to luggage etc.  Shelby American on the other hand did not do anything like that in the case being discussed. IF you are compelled to cover the Shelby studs go to the auto parts store and get some appropriate sized BLACK vacuum caps . Unless you do a lot of hauling of items in the trunk I wouldn't worry about covering them. But that is just me.

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1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: Exhaust system detail
« on: June 02, 2020, 10:11:43 PM »
Keep in mind that photos like this were typically staged.  SA installed the running horse emblem in the grille, it wasn't ordered from Ford that way.  Only the first 3 cars came with fender emblems, so the LH running horse would have been an additional item acquired from Ford parts.

Thanks Charles for the education!  I can't imagine them painting the tail pipes black after the fact, did they?
For 1966 SA did not have to fool with the intermediate pipe or tailpipes. I have not seen evidence of 65 or 66 duel non GT tips painted black from the factory or SA.The didn't stick out and were out of sight out of mind for the most part. The 65 side pipe ends I believe came both ways. Of course I think black painted side pipes would be preferred given rusted ends would be in your face every time you got in the car. Whether or not the ends were square cut or angle cut ,early late thing etc. is another loaded question/subject.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Aftermarket headers for 67 GT500
« on: June 02, 2020, 10:00:15 PM »
I have always known JBA products to be of highest quality.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Carburetor Question
« on: June 02, 2020, 01:24:42 PM »
FYI some of the BC BD have reported on very early 67 GT500ís from the factory.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Aftermarket headers for 67 GT500
« on: June 02, 2020, 11:26:53 AM »
I texted Jay tonight so we will see what he has to say.

   Roy
He probably still has something to say but I thought Jay sold JBA some years ago?

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1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: 65 GT350 Master Cylinder
« on: June 01, 2020, 05:32:21 PM »
Not withstanding the date code being Dec 65, appears the inner brass component could be replaced along with correct brass adapters would make it identical to an early 65 unit?
Assume without the adapters, the hard lines with flair on end would mate to the internal brass fitting?
Seems difference between 65 and early 66 is the presence of the adapter.
Early 66's also used adapter. ;)

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 67 GT350 Leaf springs
« on: June 01, 2020, 12:11:03 AM »
These are off 67 GT350 #2246, 5/1/67 Ford date, no ac no thermactor.  Square hole straps.
-Would AS also be a legitimate manufacturer?
-I must be confused on how the date code works.  C7ZX part number, but E03?  Can't be '63 year?  Service parts made in 2003?

Before I reuse the small leaf, would these be legit springs for a 67 GT350?
Jeff indicated that "AS" in the context of the discussion is not a MFG but the suffix of the spring engineering number . "AS" was not typically used on Competition Suspension option applications. FYI all 67 Shelby's had the Competition Suspension option as standard equipment. AM and AR are the suffix that identifies the Competition suspension option springs used on 67 Shelby's. The "E" in the E03 is that the indicate Eaton. Eaton was a large Multi National corporation that among other things supplied leaf springs to Ford in 1967. 03 could stand for plant Identification.If you have C7ZA-AS springs on your car the most likely reason is that they replaced the original equipment for some reason by a PO . A mistake at the assembly plant seems very unlikely. 

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