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#1
Cars For Sale / Don Pikes Falcon
November 15, 2023, 07:50:46 PM
I saw a post on Facebook it was for sale, but no information leading to who has it and what the asking price is. ANY LEADS? The text below is from Facebook.
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A piece of American Racing History, going up for sale.

Everyone that's into cars knows about the legendary Shelby GT350 R but what many don't know is that if it wasn't for the help of its older brother it would´ve never come to be as we know it nowadays.
The car I'm talking about? None other than the 1964 Ford Falcon. Now, some of you may be rolling your eyes and saying "well everyone knows that the Mustang shared its underpinnings with the Falcon, this isn't news'''. And you'd be correct but the thing is, this isn't any ordinary 1964 Ford Falcon.
From afar, you might think it is just one of the 13,840 hardtop coupe's built that year.
If you take a closer look, you might even realize it is actually a race car. If you're a connoiseaur, you might be thinking this must be a Monte Carlo Falcon, one of the 14 prepared by Holman & Moody as part of Ford's "Total Performance" Program. The current owner, thought the same when they found it 32 years ago.
In fact, both you and the owner were quite close. Back in the 60's, Ford ordered its performance partner, Holman & Moody to build 2 Falcons to compete in the A-Sedan class in Daytona and Sebring. This particular example, started its racing life as Walt Hansgen's car for Daytona. Were it finished P7.
After those two races, the car returned to Holman & Moody's HQ in Charlotte NC, and was not utilized until a call came from California. A guy named Carroll Shelby, called on behalf of Don Pike, whom became aware this car was sitting in the shop and bought it for $1 US Dollar, from the FoMoCo. The other Race Falcon, was shipped to Comstock Racing Team, (Ford's Official Racing team in Canada) and later won the Ontario Sedan Championship driven by Team Manager Paul Cooke.
A couple of days later, a Shelby American Truck showed up in Charlotte and picked up the Race Car with no transmission nor engine. Story tells, Holman & Moody had started to compete against Shelby prepping the Cobra's, and they did not want to reveal any powertrain related advantage to the competition. Even though, both teams worked for FoMoCo competition was fierce. The truck, delivered the Falcon to long time Shelby American employee and head of its Engine division: Don Pike.
This information was disclosed in an interview published in The Shelby American magazine in 2013.
Don raced his Falcon for two season's in the West Coast A-Sedan Class.
1964: 12 races - 11 wins, 1 DNF
1965: 18 races - 18 wins
Gary Pike, Don's brother was hired to maintain his race cars together with Bill McLean, son of James McLean who was the General Manager of Shelby American at that time.
After his two dominant seasons, Ford requested through its Director of Special Products Division: Jacques Passino (who was a key player in the formation of Holman-Moody) to Carrol Shelby that the car had to be sold outside the USA to avoid harming the reputation of the newly launched Mustang. The Falcon had been constantly beating them. Don was given a new Group II Mustang to race, which replaced his dominating Falcon.
In fact, as this car spent much of its time in the Shelby American shop, it influenced the development of the 1965 Shelby Mustang GT350 R. Yes, this very car. They even tested independent suspension in this car in an attempt to put in the GT350's but it ended up being too expensive.
For example, the Monte Carlo Bar, which strengthens the front of the chassis gave more rigidity and improved handling through cornering. It can be found in Shelby Mustangs through 1965 and 1966. Mostly placed in the Rally cars due to the rough roads, this car did not have it when it raced Daytona and Sebring for handling and weight-saving reasons.
After it was shipped to Perú in 1967, it had some trouble going through customs but was eventually cleared and raced on multiple occasions by members of the "De Las Casas" family.
In Perú, it raced and beat Shelby Mustangs, including 1965 Compettition models. You might not know this, but 5 of the 34 "R" models were originally shipped to Peru. An outstanding number for a relatively small country. The Falcon set various records and won races throughout the late 60's and 1970's. It adopted the nickname "Looks are the least important", because although some people argue it was an ugly car, it never failed to perform.
Can't argue with them, the yellow paint it had towards its last years racing in the 70's in Peru did not suit it well.
The specs? Well, this car was restored by its original builder, Holman & Moody to its 1964 specifications, including a 289 engine with racing parts such as Cam, Rockers and Heads. It is matched to a T10 aluminum 4-speed transmission. The engine is supposedly rated at roughly 300hp for a car that weights around 1,000kg or 2,200 pounds.
Additionally, the body panels are extremely light as they are fiber glass built, and it has plexi-glass windows. The interior consists of an aluminum dash with the required gauges to race, as well as the original anti-roll cage.
This car that was once abandoned for roughly 30 years, has its story fully documented including.
In fact, Mr. Pike handwrote a letter to the current owner and was in constant communication during the restoration process which started in 2001 and finished in 2003. The car's current color, 1956 Dodge Royal Blue is the color Don remembered it the most during its very successful racing years in the US.
Such letter is not the only piece of documentation, the owner has been extremely meticulous in the saving of documents, magazine articles, and communications that back the uniqueness of this car, and its key role in the development of other performance icon's of the 60's.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/584189309247014/permalink/1095516078114332/?mibextid=Nif5oz

#2
The Lounge / The most original in the universe?
June 12, 2022, 07:13:16 AM
https://aglomerado.digital/en/web-stories/shelby-gt500-king-of-the-road-1968-and-the-most-original-in-the-universe/
A mighty bold claim by Barrett-Jackson, and anytime something claimed remotely similiar, my senses first reaction is to claim BS. I see lots of white cad bolts under the hood which I'd think "maybe not", but '68s are not my forte'.
#3
https://www.minimania.com/BulkEmail_HTML.cfm?id=33232

Have you ever dreamed of racing your Mini or C-Sedan Coupe at Goodwood? Would you like to attend a race that exceeds expectations on track and off? Don't have a massive race budget or a passport? Read on...

We are excited to announce an exclusive event that is designed to enliven the classic rivalry between Mustangs and Minis, at one of the best racetracks in all North America - Laguna Seca! Announcing the 2021 Velocity Invitational Mini vs Mustang Endurance Challenge, November 10 - 14, 2021.

This is a premium event with exceptional hospitality and ample track time. Much more than just a race weekend, this event offers incomparable value and social appeal. Exclusive hospitality, food, and drinks are all included with your entry. It is a very spousal-friendly event.

There will be a night race in addition to the qualifying and feature races (please see attached provisional schedule). Full grids competing in other sessions during the event will provide plenty of unique and rare race cars on display, with some of the most valuable race cars from around the world challenging each other on the track. Please visit https://velocityinvitational.com/ for more general event information.

We are aiming to rival Goodwood with car quality. Two drivers will share the track time for all the sessions, including the Friday "Night Enduro"

Note that cars will require headlights and taillights to compete. Cars must be well presented and prepared to C-Sedan configuration. Please contact Don Racine for tech, eligibility questions, or to get on the event list:

DonRacine177@gmail.com

Please consider joining us at the legendary Laguna Seca circuit for this exclusive event!
#4
Has anyone compared them side by side to note the difference?  My wheels are restored (albeit worn) originals.
#5
For the first 50 or so 66 chasses delivered (i.e. 253-310), what do we know of the build dates on the ID tags on those AUTOMATIC transmissions?  Does anyone have a tag photo from one of these transmissions, or what was stamped on one???
#6
Concours Talk / Source for 65-6 tunnel snubber plate?
November 29, 2020, 12:34:36 AM
Is anyone aware of someone who has the trans tunnel snubbler bounce plate that is opposite of the 9 inch snubber for 65-6 still in stock?
#7
Up For Auction / Paxton Fuel Pressure Gauge
October 25, 2020, 06:48:19 PM
http://ebay.us/Mm17nS?cmpnId=5338273189 Bidding opened at $99.99

In full disclosure it's mine; taken out of my car as itis incorrect (naturally). "OEM Paxton Supercharger 2 1/8" Fuel Pressure Gauge 0-15# circa late 70s. Condition is "Used".-- 2 ⅛" PAXTON fuel pressure gauge, 0-15 psi, of unknown vintage (but older than 37 years of known ownership) taken out of a '66 GT350 it was incorrect for.  Displays the three red 'V' sparrows after 'PAXTON'.  Face is bright and defect free.  Reads accurately; S-W 240A fuel pump was bench tested for 5 psi, an under-hood gauge read 5 psi, and this gauge read 5 psi when all were installed together in the car. The needle rests a needle-width above zero with no pressure applied.  The only fault I can see is found under a good light at the 3 o'clock position along a 12 mm arc, about 0.5 mm wide. There is a bubble in the original paint and some veining growing along the edge (see photo).  On the back, there is some discoloration of the thin nickel(?) plating from handling.  If you stick the port up your nose it smells of gas(oline).  If your head is up your bumm, you'll smell gas as well.  It has been always installed old-school with a thin copper pipette line directly to a carburetor or fuel line.  THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR AN INTERNAL LIGHT SOURCE IN THIS GAUGE!!! "
#8
Well, the subject pretty much sums up my request. I have not forwarded the question to Craig Conley yet, hoping to capture responses here-in. Craig's kit uses a mechanical pump that equalizes one side of the operation or the other, so I was wondering whether similar pumps were used in the 60s, and what they looked like.  I sure hope they were not a chromed up tart of one sort or another.
#9
In photos, the 013 DLR plates gather so much attention, but the Atzbach collection had a 1B 4101 plate also attributed to the organization.  What was the difference(s) in their application(s)?

I have my suspicions,  but would like a knowledgable answer.
#10
Concours Talk / 65-6 Monte Carlo Bars
August 29, 2020, 03:52:57 AM
Simple right?... well, are they? Had a straight one I may have purchased from NPD for just the end plates, but they don't near cover the contact patch of the one my car has had for years, and the break from one plane to the other is too sharp. So questions start being generated:
1) what is the thickness of an original's flange? Weight?
2) Is there any un-distinguishable from originals out there? From whom?
3) What would/should I look for in a quality piece?

[Background info: My car spent years on the dragstrip so I cannot be confident any part of mine is original to the car]
#12
The Lounge / Unusual Weber manifold ID?
June 27, 2020, 05:21:23 PM
Has any seen a manifold like this one before; who made it?
153911462592 on ebay
#13
Given recent discussion of leaky C4 oil pans:
Quote from: GT350AUS on April 28, 2020, 05:40:06 AM
I've constantly got a leak from the pan gasket.

I've removed the pan and straightened the ridge along the bolt holes, refitted a cork gasket and torqued the bolts to 15 foot pounds.

The leak continues.

I've don't it 3 times and still leaks.

I welcome suggestions as to what can fix this problem.

Acknowledging an aluminum pan for a C4 transmission is not original, is there a fully finned no-name pan out there, or one with enough meat so any raised name can be ball milled down to remove the name (or just leave the finned remnants there of)?
#14
He has not been responding to correspondence WRT closing SAAC listings
#15
Interested in 289 dual holley carbs
C6OA-9510-A, Holley list 3360
C6OA-9510-B, Holley list 3361
#16
The Lounge / De Tomaso P72 is new, but not lost on me
October 30, 2019, 08:12:55 PM
OKay, I've been asleep, and migraines have taken control but it has not taken the AWE out of some of the new vehicles. Case in point: De Tomaso P72 gets a 5.0-liter Ford V8 with 700+ horsepower...

The article begins with, "All the comments the Hong Kong-based Consolidated Ideal TeamVentures (CIT) have made about resurrecting the De Tomaso brand have stressed the company's focus on staying true to De Tomaso's intentions and the values of his car company. The first proof of that came in CIT deciding to pay homage to the practically unknown De Tomaso P70 with the P72, instead of going for the slam dunk with a Pantera facsimile. The second proof comes in the choice of engine for the P72: Ford's 5.0-liter Coyote V8 further developed by De Tomaso and Roush Performance. ..."
https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/1049x590/quality/80/https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2019/08/17135832/01-de-tomaso-p72-quail.jpg[/img]]

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/10/30/de-tomaso-p72-roush-ford-coyote-v8/?yptr=yahoo
#17
I have loved my C7FE le mans cam with standard transmission, bu I doubt the levels of vacuum would work well with a C4 hipo automatic.  I was pleased with the hydraulic hipo cam profile with my cruiser automatics, bu missed the seriousness of the Le Mans.  What has been the group's experience running something more radical than a hipo cam with an automatic?... brand... approx spec, please.
#18
I have loved my C7FE le mans cam with standard transmission, bu I doubt the levels of vacuum would work well with a C4 hipo automatic.  I was pleased with the hydraulic hipo cam profile with my cruiser automatics, bu missed the seriousness of the Le Mans.  What has been the group's experience running something more radical than a hipo cam with an automatic?... brand... approx spec, please.
#19
With adoption of the GT instrument cluster for the '66 model year, what would be the arguments for, and against adding after market gauges under the dash of your 66 '350?... and if limited to ONLY two, what would they be?
Assume you have the Paxton gauges of Fuel Press and Boost already in place.
1) Water temp
2) Oil temp
3) Trans temp
4) Rear Diff temp
5) Ambiant Temp
6) Oil Press
7) Amps
8 ) Volts
9) Clock (same size and housing as Tach, 3 3/16" diameter)

While I have asked to narrow things down to only two; inorder of preference, What would be your top three in a road car - gymkhana ride?  Is there something left off the list you feel should be a top 3 contender?
I left the Accelerometer deliberately to be subject to a separate questionnaire
#20
The Lounge / What to do with modified intake?
August 05, 2019, 10:55:05 PM
I ask this in the lounge, because there's been two heavy handed modifications on this intake.  One is more cosmetic, but the other could affect how the intake performs.  I hope to better canvas the group's expertise / opinion across spectrums.

BACKGROUND:  Found S2MS SBF COBRA intake on eBay advertised as reproduction.  Looking at photos, I'm convinced it's a modified original, but hard to see if it's what I'm looking for to restore 6S296 to semi-concours.  Intake arrives, and it is indeed an original, has all the other correct hallmarks, but with two issues.

COBRA NAMEPLATE:  I was looking for a rectangular nameplate, but this one has been ground on for distributor clearance.


     QUESTION 1: Do you:
          1)  weld it back up and whittle it down to shape, OR
          2)  Just go with it, if the car's not in judged concours, no one will notice it anyway.

CARB TO MANIFOLD PORTS:  Someone followed up act 1 with milling out the individual barb bore holes to one open, gaping hole.  i intend to put a Paxton on the car, but the question is effect on either carburator or Paxton ...


          QUESTIONS 2+:  Do you:
          1) Go with it, but ease over the sharp edges inside the plenum. OR
          2)  HOLY CRAP COWBOY, that needs to at least have a divider plate between the two planes, that just kills performance.

Or I guess one last question is it just wall art, and expensive lesson?