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Shelby American Racing / Re: Vintage Racing Images
« on: May 09, 2020, 11:18:02 AM »
I posted this in the random car pictures thread  earlier, thought it relevant here as well.

Paddock '68 Nurburgring 1000kms,  '67 or '68 Mustang behind also.   CSX ?


It's COB6041.

CSX 2000 Series / Re: Lets get some cobra pictures back up!
« on: April 28, 2020, 12:05:10 PM »
At the Bridgehampton Double 500 on September 20, 1964....several Cobras sprouted the "double exhaust" configuration: 2513, 2290, 2558 and 2557.  2430, Tom Payne's Cobra, ran the same exhaust in least during the Mosport Players 200.  The reasoning behind the dual side exhaust (just a guess here)...might of had to do with what Shelby American had learned from testing the Daytona Coupe and it's version of the dual exhaust as in relation to high speed tracks (better breathing at higher RPM's?).  Unfortunately, I don't have any under hood shots of the headers, but I could guess that the double side exhaust featured 2-1 split headers (Daytona Coupe style) instead of the standard 4-1 headers that were used on most competition Cobras.

CSX 2000 Series / Re: USRRC vs FIA
« on: April 24, 2020, 10:43:13 AM »
It's 2345....

CSX 2000 Series / Re: USRRC vs FIA
« on: April 24, 2020, 01:00:30 AM »
The FIA cars had standard windshield assemblies and the USRRC cars could run the "smaller wrap around windshield."  Both FIA and USRRC cars ran the quick jacks front and rear (these replaced the standard bumpers).  The mag wheel sizes for both FIA and USRRC were usually 6 1/2" fronts and 8 1/2" rears (some were delivered with 7 1/2" rears, although 2431 did have a custom built set of American Racing wheels that were wider in the rear).  Both models, FIA and USRRC ran weber carbs.....brakes were the same on both (there is a note that at least one of the later built USRRC Cobras was run with street style brakes since it was to be run in SCCA A-Production).  2431 had adjustable A-arms and other special suspension parts.  Also, 2431 is noted to have experimented with vented disc brake rotors.  Most of the FIA and USRRC models also had front and rear brake scoops.  Both the FIA and USRRC seemed to run the top spec 289 race engine (usually around 380-390 HP, or more).  Side pipes varied from single to dual exit (at least on one USRRC Cobra).  I'm sure that I'm missing a few other details that the others will chime in and fill in the blanks.

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: April 22, 2020, 11:51:01 AM »
For your consideration, one from 1967, one from 2011. Note: not the same cars/drivers/locations.

Is the 1967 photo from the June or August Waterford Hills races?

Shelby American Racing / Re: Vintage Racing Images
« on: March 29, 2020, 11:18:39 PM »
Allen Grant did not race at Dodger's Candlestick park (San Francisco, Ca.)2026 and 2002 were the only Cobras to race at Dodger Stadium (March 1963).

Shelby American Racing / Re: Vintage Racing Images
« on: March 29, 2020, 10:38:22 PM »
Grant photo #2 should be Santa Barbara, due to the concrete surface and the tar strips.  Grant photo #3 is Candlestick baseball park.  I'd say the gentleman at the wheel of the Grant Cobra in photo #3 is John Olson his main mechanic, what looks to possibly be George Lucas (Star Wars) Grant's other mechanic on the passenger rear fender....I don't recognize the other passenger on the driver's side rear fender at the moment (looks like, Peter Brock, but it's not him and I can't read the name on the jacket).

No problem....enjoy the site there are tons of detail photos, Cobra, Shelby GT350 R-model (001 at Willow Springs, etc.) photos, Trans-Am,  Can-Am, Cougar stuff and tons of Indy and drag racing to keep you busy for several weeks. 

The louvers are on the hood in the blue tinted photo...the photo is just poor quality.  Go to "Peterson Digital Archive" and type in "Cobra 1962"....there are several photos from the test session and a few photos showing the louvered hood/partial painted hood and also another test driver.  Also, some of the images are there really isn't any right hand drive Cobras at this event.  There are also a few images of csx2000 in the pearl yellow color, an early road test of a red Cobra, some early homologated competition parts (side draft weber manifold, etc.) etc.

CSX 2000 Series / Re: 1964 video of Cobra at Hershey, PA 'Hill Climb'
« on: February 17, 2020, 03:42:12 PM »
Best guess as to which red Cobra this one appears to be in the video would be 2027 at the November 14-15, 1964 HC (most of the trees in the background have no leaves). The gold colored 1963 Corvette Stingray #30 driven by John Bolton is noted as the winner of the November 1964 Hershey HC, the maroonish Porsche Special #138 is Pat/John Sabel's car (also noted as his debut race) the muted red (looks like an orange) #67 Porsche Special is Jack Rabold's car.

CSX 2000 Series / Re: Lets get some cobra pictures back up!
« on: February 15, 2020, 12:45:04 PM »
September 1965 for the 500.  June 1965 for the Sprints.  Great photos by the way.

CSX 2000 Series / Re: Lets get some cobra pictures back up!
« on: February 13, 2020, 10:08:55 AM »
It's hard to say to who is exactly driving the does look like Masten G. as mentioned by JD (possibly with a borrowed helmet, since most photos seem to show Masten G. with a silver helmet/white visor).  The Cobra is 2002....this might be part of a photo shoot and there was a color Magazine article out there showing a road test of this Cobra (2002) in period at Riverside.


Shelby American Racing / Re: Vintage Racing Images
« on: January 21, 2020, 10:48:06 PM »
2009 at HM's shop prior to Sebring....

Thanks for the update Ned, I will make a correction to my list....the old Registry only has the Stanley Whitehead listing.


In checking the Santa Barbara entry list for Fred, the color of his Cobra is noted as Silver.  It also looks like another Cobra of unknown chassis number for Tom Blue is also on the Santa Barbara entry list....Tom's Cobra is also noted as Silver under race #1.  I did end up finding a picture of Fred's Cobra at the Santa Barbara races on the "Getty Images" site:

The second Cobra in the background hiding behind the hay bale I'm guessing is Tom Blue's Cobra?


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