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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Does Color Matter $$
« on: June 23, 2020, 10:43:30 PM »
It’s interesting a Mustang with stripes gets mistaken as a Shelby and a Shelby without stripes is mistaken as a Mustang. 

The Lounge / Re: Happy Father's Day to my Dad
« on: June 21, 2020, 11:29:24 AM »
My Dad's been gone for 26 years and i miss him terribly..

You know...
The older I get the more I realize he was a bit smarter than I ever gave him credit for...!

Just my .02 of a memory

Brett, I share your feelings and thanks for posting.

1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Does Color Matter $$
« on: June 20, 2020, 04:33:59 PM »
It's stripes with an e,  not strips DZ

Thanks for pointing this out, next time i’ll reread before I press send.

1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Does Color Matter $$
« on: June 20, 2020, 02:37:58 PM »
Thank you all again. Another question, did some Hertz cars never have the Le Mans strips? I have not seen many that way, but by now most have been repainted.

It’s my understanding that some RED cars came without gold strips, I’am not sure if any of the other colors came without stripes.

1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Does Color Matter $$
« on: June 18, 2020, 11:35:48 AM »
I’ve been fortunate to have owned a White, Green and Red Hertz cars.  Each one was and is great and the only comment I get is that it’s not a real Shelby because all Hertz cars were black and gold.  We here all know the truth. 

Comments and observations: The Green one received the “elegant”, vote the White one “was missing the blue strips” and the Red on was considered the best looking and receives the most attention. 

I personally like them all.

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Sending good wishes to Rick Kopec
« on: May 22, 2020, 09:50:09 PM »
Wonderful news.   8)

+1 get well soon.

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Sending good wishes to Rick Kopec
« on: May 14, 2020, 10:02:07 PM »
Best wishes and a speedy recovery.

1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Red rear view mirror in Hertz
« on: May 11, 2020, 03:49:00 PM »
Just wondering, any idea what Hertz locations used this type of identification?

News from HQ / Re: Sad news - RIP member John Guinta - madeulook
« on: May 09, 2020, 06:26:04 PM »
So sorry for your loss. All the communication I had with him was always great.

Concours Talk / Re: how important is the date code in this case?
« on: May 03, 2020, 01:02:37 PM »
It is repairable with an experienced welder and can be made to be undetectable.  It is going to cost $$ but it is doable.  I have welded cast iron parts with great success and there are shops that do this.

A most likely the cost to repair might be less than buying a used.  You know what you have and as it was stated above the fix can be ‘undetectable’.

Good luck

Up For Auction / Re: C6OE-D FoMoCo fan blade for 1967 GT350. Ebay
« on: April 27, 2020, 08:00:17 PM »
The listing has ended.

The Lounge / Re: Made to order face mask
« on: April 13, 2020, 09:40:57 PM »
I want one.  Great idea. 

The Lounge / Re: My Apologies.
« on: March 17, 2020, 11:02:18 AM »

1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: How many on this site have a red Hertz?
« on: February 17, 2020, 08:09:37 PM »
For a complete telling of the ’66 Hertz story, I would urge anyone interested to read the appropriate chapter in the 2011 ’65-‘66’67 Registry. But I can offer a definitive explanation of just the red cars here. One must remember that despite the fact that Shelby American pitched the program to Hertz as 1000 black and gold cars, when Hertz finally awarded a contract to Shelby in December of 1965, it was for 1000 cars equally divided in all five of the colors in which the ’66 GT350-black, red, white, blue and green. By then, Hertz had already changed their minds several times as to the color mix and the transmission types. Even after the contract had been finalized, Hertz continued, almost on a weekly basis, to change the requirements, and these changes have all been captured in Shelby American’s Staff Meeting Minutes.

Thanks for the update and glad that you have refreshed the story about the Red Hertz.  BTW I have #988 which was born without stripes.  Cheers,

Another factor must be understood to being the red cars question into focus was the means by which San Jose shipped cars to Shelby American for conversion into GT350s: they would run a batch of one color, ship Shelby’s allotment of that color, run another color, ship Shelby’s allotment of THAT color…and so on. The result was that Shelby received cars for GT350 conversion (for both Hertz and non-Hertz) in batches of like-colored cars. What happened in the case of the red Hertz cars was that two unrelated events occurred simultaneously: first, Hertz again flip-flopped on the subject of top stripes (please don’t call them “LeMans stripes”, Shelby American referred to them as “rally stripes” back in the day) and requested that rally stripes NOT be applied. Then, very shortly thereafter, Shelby American received a batch of red cars and began converting them into GT350Hs. Just as the red group as completed, guess what? Hertz again changed their mind and decided that all cars thereafter would have rally stripes. Thus, factory paperwork proves pretty conclusively that NONE of the red GT350Hs had top stripes. Hertz didn’t make a conscious decision to have their red cars lacking top stripes; it just turned out that way. Sometime afterwards, Hertz again flip-flopped and decided that the remainder of their fleet would be black with gold stripes, so the 50 or so red GT350Hs without top stripes were the only ones there would ever be.

I hope this clarifies this subject for the 99% percent…


1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: How many on this site have a red Hertz?
« on: February 15, 2020, 01:11:30 PM »
I have #988 in S.CA and it started out as Red no stripes.

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