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Interesting that all these "special" special paint cars are clustered in the 3200-3300 Shelby VIN range and 204-205,000 Ford VIN range. Perhaps due to production scheduling at Ford providing a "window" to do a group of special process units? Pete can probably tell us if they are clustered within a specific production date range?

I have several original used '68 woodgrain instrument cluster bezels that were replaced during restorations. I saved them for situations just like this. Assuming I can successfully remove the "BRAKE" red lens from one of them, I will put it into an envelope and mail it to you. The cost is you agreeing to pay it forward by doing a favor for the next person you encounter who needs some help.

PM or text me at 717-648-6600.
Bill

Oh well, there I go again!  I corrected my post to agree with Bob and Ed's information.

It may be helpful to be able to distinguish between originals and reproductions of these gauges.

Oil pressure gauge:
The first photo is an original - note the position of the indicator line is directly below the 5 in 50.
The second photo is a reproduction - the position of the line is directly below the 0 in 50.

Alternator gauge:
The reproduction has minus and plus signs on the dial face - these are not present on originals

Finally, the dial face on originals is dark grey - later Ford service replacements and reproductions tend toward black.

There are likely other distinguishing features and I expect others may contribute as to what they are - collectively it would make for a good tutorial.

Here is a closeup of the filled automatic choke mounting hole that better shows the circular witness line where it was filled in.

This is all good advice and I would like to add a warning. With you being unfamiliar with these carburetors and possibly in the market for one, you need to be aware of how to spot a fake example converted from a non Hipo 4100.

There are a couple of telltale modifications to the carb body that are very difficult to convincingly perform. They involve casting nubs on the front passenger side. One is drilled and tapped on the standard 4100 to accommodate mounting the automatic choke assembly. This nub is not drilled on the C6ZF- C/F versions. The other is a smooth plug on the original which may be filled in on a repro.

Careful examination will reveal a witness line around the perimeter of the filled hole and/or roughness of the filled areas. I have both an original and a converted example in my inventory and have attached photos of the affected areas on both so you can see the differences.

Hopefully this will help you avoid a potentially expensive mistake!

Way to go Pete! Score one for the Shelby Police.

This may not be completely helpful, but I recently sold a 7M21 dated differential assembly. It was out of the car, so I do not know what Shelby it may originally have been installed into. It is a 31 spline 3:89 ratio for a GT350 rather than a KR, but it may provide some relevant info. Photos are attached.

Quote from: Coralsnake on March 11, 2024, 08:34:02 AM
Hes back

Another fake ad and website

https://heinrichsvintage.com/listing/1968-shelby-gt500-kr/

I previously discussed this here:
https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=25716.0

Here is the page from the factory assembly manual showing the alignment to be as Shelbymann and Kent describe it. (View "T" in the drawing).

Here is a photo of Gilboy Ford in 1965

I am not affiliated with the seller and do not mean to interfere in someone else's thread, but I am aware of what may be a good opportunity for anyone interested in this car for restoration to original specs. 

One of my customers recently acquired a '68 S code 390 engine and 4 speed trans that was pulled from a car decades ago. It is a complete assembly, air cleaner to pan, that has never been disassembled. All equipment is intact including carb, distributor, pcv/emissions system, fan/clutch, pulleys/brackets, factory A/C compressor, power steering, exhaust manifolds, bellhousing and shifter.

This is an unusual opportunity to acquire everything in a matching assembly at one time. I do not know the engineering numbers, date codes or price but can get them on request. I posted some pics, it is located in Central Pennsylvania.

Bill Collins
Bill Collins Collector Fords
717-648-6600
bill@bcfords.com

I have bidding credentials with IAA, which was auctioning the car. I was watching it but missed the end and they do not post sale results, you have to monitor it live.

There was a post on here earlier this week stating that it sold for $56,000 and was going to Dubai - but I cannot locate it, maybe it was taken down.

Can you say "shill" ?

The ghost drawing of the '67 Shelby on the earliest edition of the '67 factory spec sheet shows a Monte Carlo bar, suggesting that it was intended to be offered. This feature was removed from the drawings on subsequent editions.

Having owned '67's as low as serial #004, I have never encountered one with a factory installed bar.