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The Lounge / Re: COBRA?
« on: May 23, 2020, 06:48:17 PM »

Have never seen the Alexander Brothers custom Galaxie before. Some interesting design features.

The Lounge / Re: Grand Prix movie
« on: May 10, 2020, 11:57:31 PM »
Baja 1000 addendum

Garner also competed with his American International Racers fielding a team modified SC/Ramblers.

The Lounge / Re: Anyone see this?
« on: April 29, 2020, 07:23:07 PM »
Interesting. . . .but um no.

IMHO the Flex is a design classic in its time and shouldn't be used on another Ford model.

Shelby American Racing / Re: 66 Le Mans another piece of the story ?
« on: April 28, 2020, 12:23:35 AM »
Interesting information and no suprise it has taken over over 50 years to surface. And it raises new questions.

Who ever swapped the rotors had to know which was which. As for the AOC changing their minds on a dead heat that's no surprise.

“Ken said, ‘They don’t want me to win the race. They want the Amon/McLaren car to win.’
Who the heck is they? HFII? Leo Beebe? Lee Iacocca? Is there any historical clues or witnesses for this animosity? Where was CS during this time? What did he say/do?

In Ford V Ferrari (a very lazy and sloppy script IMHO) it was suggested that the media would promote a Ken Miles hat trick victory (with Daytona and Sebring) and not a Ford victory. There might have been an element of Ford corporate pr paranoia. 

Ultimately, Miles was team player which may not always pay off for the individual involved. Nonetheless, I always wonder why Miles just say to hell with it and win. What was Ford going to do, fire him? He was at the top of his game and I presume he could have written his own ticket with another team.

The Lounge / Re: What's everybody reading? Any Recomendations?
« on: April 15, 2020, 01:54:50 PM »
Enzo Ferrari The Man, the Cars, the Races        Brock Yates

The Whiz Kids   Ten Founding Fathers of American Business and the Legacy They Left Us       John A. Byrne

About the Whiz Kids that were hired by Ford Motor Company. There's the usual suspects, Robert McNamara, Tex Thornton, Ben Mills. Plus some you don't know, Gerorge Moore, Jack Reith. Not all of the subjects' lives had happy endings.

And don't forget he was involved with driver Vern Schuppan in an entry in the 1981 Indianapolis 500. Running a McLaren M24B, the team was comprised of a cross section of amatures, including team head John Sullivan.

They were dealing with various handling issues. On the last day, driver Schuppan said he couldn't drive the car 500 miles the way it sat. Horsman and Sullivan conferred and determined the key lay in the aerodynamics. Horsman whacked 4 inches off the rear wing trailing edge.

They qualifed 31st out of the 33 car field. During the race Schuppan was asked how is the car handling. Great was the reply. They finished third.

I'd guess that the problem with not many of those who still work at Ford knowing in-depth about their history is just that...not many of them are left.

Twenty years ago, there were still plenty of old timers wandering around the halls of Ford Dearborn's many buildings.  Not now.

Once the truly knowledgeable historians like John Clinard are totally out of the sphere of any influence with the company, those days of brain-trust knowledge are gone.


IMHO, there's a lot of current Ford employees who work there but never grew up immersed in automobiles and the people who created them. Today, they only know what they can find online or look up in company records, which are probably by no means complete.

Change my mind.

The Lounge / Re: Ford Bronco 2021
« on: March 09, 2020, 06:23:53 PM »
No, Ford's pr rep said, it doesn't look like Land Rover's Discovery.

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Phil Remington..Road & Track
« on: March 06, 2020, 01:39:07 PM »
While I throughly enjoyed Ford vs Ferrari, was disappointed more credit wasn’t given to Phill!

Phil Remington deserved better - much better - than the obtuse caricature in the film.

IMHO the screen writers didn't know, or particularly care, who he really was. Guess they wanted a Jar Jar Binks character (See Star Wars) for laughs.

IMHO, GM had to migrate to a mid-engine design because that's where all the world class hyper cars were and this is a global market.

The upside is that GM has the engineering resources to design and build a quality car at a bargain price, compared to its competitors. But never forget that Detroit led the world in front engine/rear drive performance vehicles, such as  C1/7 Corvettes and Shelby Mustangs. One reason, I believe, is the OHV V8. For decades, "sophisticated" enthusiasts would tsk tsk OHV engines compared to OHC configurations. But the C8 has the LT2 that delivers world class performance. That's because over the decades, Detroit refined V8s that delivered power and were daily driver durable. 

Yeah, there's rumored a DOHC V8 down the road, but I'll take the OHV engine. It maybe old school, but it's very refined old school. 

The Lounge / Re: Ford=Shelby GR1
« on: January 25, 2020, 02:22:09 PM »
Upside:  styling that doesn't resemble every other front engine sports car.
Downsides: not in love with the front end and pass on the polished look.

IMHO Ford/Shelby/Superformance have a winner.

The Lounge / Re: TEN Publishing killing all but three print magazines!
« on: December 06, 2019, 05:40:29 PM »
Things aren't like they used to be.

However, while I appreciate magazines, they are physically limiting for text and photos. Besides 1 column x 1 inch tech photos, I was reading a tech story I was interested in. One photo, that I wanted to see the detail illustrated, was run down the gutter (magazine print lingo) so I couldn't see it.

At least on line, there's room for more unobstructed photos.

PS: Ford no longer sells cars in the North American market (not including Mustang and I believe the Fusion will be gone after 2020).
      America no longer shops at Sears.

Nice concept.

However, IMHO the hood scoop sucks.

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Was Leo Bebee such a villain?
« on: November 25, 2019, 05:14:46 PM »
Thank you for the historical perspective. I have nothing but comtempt for the villification of Leo Beebe's character in the film. But you have to have a corporate villian in films today. 

Here's a quote from Leo Beebe, on page 112 of Shelby GT40 by Dave Friedman:

".....When Henry Ford saw me at the starting line before the race, he handed me a card that said, "You better win, HFII."

Not much pressure there.

Out of 7 Mk. ll's entered (4 Shelby American and 3 Holman Moody) only three finished. Imagine Beebe's mindset if they hadn't.

As for the US verus THEM, Ford funded the racing effort, so I don't think managment was all bad.

PS: I know: FvF isn't a documentary.

The Lounge / Re: New Tesla truck design
« on: November 23, 2019, 11:21:32 AM »
I must have missed the email.

Was there any particular reason why the windows were being touted as being bullet proof or unbreakable? Did Tesla think this would be a big sales feature? Is the rest of the vehicle bullet proof as well?

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