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First off - THANK YOU Stephan (Szabo) for sharing / posting the incredible new-to-us photos of the Kamm tail GT350, especially that one of it at Hi-Performance Motors on Sepulveda!!! (HPM 2). That one really made my year!! I've said several times on this Forum that the greatest thrill for me in this hobby is that the start of every new year reveals photos that were previously unknown to us, and that the thrill of that has never faded for me.

It got George Watters & I to restart previous discussions we have had about HPM 2, and when I resent him that rear view of a GT350 parked outside with the dealership in the background, he added some great directional location info. I took his information and rotated / reworked an aerial photo that I probably had posted on Forum 1.0 back in the day.

Here are George's words, and then the photo that I reworked (with added directional lines):

"The close up rear shot of the ’65 GT 350 is the one that you can the exterior of HPM 2 building. The camera is facing South so we see the North side of the showroom. I think that this picture is the only one that I have ever seen that actually shows part of the exterior of the showroom. Again we are facing South. Sepulveda Blvd would be to the left. If you look very closely you can see the side street sign that should say Walnut. ( look closely in the middle of the rear window just above the right top stripe ) Basically looking right thru the small showroom. This was the small street next to HPM and it ran East, West. Sepulveda Blvd ran North, South." 

George



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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Shelby American - Winter 2024
« on: February 02, 2024, 10:22:47 AM »
FANTASTIC photo Brian, Well Done!!

Kieth

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1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: CUSTOMS ILLUSTRATED Magazine
« on: December 29, 2023, 05:32:32 PM »
Hi Kieth, try June 1965.

Best of luck

Cory

Hi Cory,

Sorry for my belated reply.
The topic had to have rotated out of the "recent" section at the bottom of the Forum home page, and then I somehow missed your Reply.

But I really do appreciate your response, and sent you an email as well...

Thanks again,
Kieth

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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: vintage 66 photo
« on: December 22, 2023, 10:36:23 AM »


Notice the “H” removed from the side stripe, a fairly common practice back in the day, I have read.

I don’t know the time frame of this picture, but the Blue Streaks seem to infer that it’s a period photo.

Does anyone know the date of it??

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: period detail shot
« on: November 29, 2023, 09:33:28 PM »
That definitely is not Lee Kelley.  I worked for him too.  He died a few years ago.   

That's George Elliott in the photo, wearing that shirt.

Okay - Thanks for the clarification!

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: period detail shot
« on: November 29, 2023, 04:46:20 PM »
I think it was Popular Hot Rodding. Published between 1962 and 2014, part of the Motor Trend group. Best known for their "Project X" '57 Chevy build series.

Hi Bill,

Yes, that was Popular Hot Rodding. A formerly excellent technical car mag (sort of combining Hot Rod & Car Craft's editorial breadth) that ended up in the soup-kitchen-mess of leftover stuff that spilled on the floor during too many publishing company sales/mergers.

PHR was never affiliated with Petersen, but got mixed-in with the Motor Trend Group (about three more company takeovers after Bob Petersen sold everything in 1996) in its last year or so, and was dead by 2014...a shadow of its former self.

PHR was originally the flagship of Argus Publishers Corp, a much smaller magazine company than Petersen (located in West L.A. about 6 miles from Petersen) that also published Super Chevy, Off-Road, VW & Porsche (eventually became European Car), drag racing specials, Motorcade (a new-car quarterly), Guide to Muscle Cars, Fabulous Mustangs, and others.

Company owners Don Werner and Gordon Behn were former Petersen guys. Werner was editor of Motor Trend (circa 1959) and Behn was in the Distribution (newsstand and subscription) dept.  They decided to compete with Petersen and opened their own company (Argus) in 1962.

The young guy in this photo was the editor of PHR at the time, George Elliott. He had advanced to Exec V.P. when I started there in '81 (George hired me!) He's a great guy, fun-to-work-for, very knowledgeable, and a natural race driver (cars and motorcycles.) 

I worked at PHR from 1982-87, before Carroll asked me to come to work for him, and thus also before I was at Petersen in the '90s-early 2000s. (Car Craft & Motor Trend.)

George and I are still friends, and I talked with him a couple of months ago. He's 80-ish and still loves fast machines. If anyone has a specific question to ask him about that Shelby article, I can pass it along. 
Van


Side-Oilers,

My magazine has this caption on page 60, explaining the period detail shot on page 61 that is being discussed in this thread:


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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: OEM style batteries
« on: November 24, 2023, 08:18:44 AM »
Rex - Sent you a PM

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1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: CUSTOMS ILLUSTRATED Magazine
« on: November 22, 2023, 09:28:34 AM »
I forgot to add that it does have a tach dash pod in another photo in the article - that well known photo of the gauges mocked up using paper inside the dash pod…

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1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: CUSTOMS ILLUSTRATED Magazine
« on: November 22, 2023, 09:23:56 AM »
mgreene,

Good eye, I say you are correct! The other photos of the car (5S003) in this article are the well known and widely published ones that we have all seen, except for a rare 2 page right side profile shot that I would have to consult my files to confirm if I have ever seen before…

I found this article at a vendor booth at MCACN last weekend. It’s not in the best of shape, but I knew I had to have it because it is the first time I have ever seen it anywhere.

It is another example of the bugaboo I have with many 60’s car magazines, where they don’t have the issue info at the bottom of the pages. I have had success before here on the Forum in situations like this where someone chimes in with the issue / date.

Here’s hoping again with this one!
Kieth

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1965 GT350/R-Model / CUSTOMS ILLUSTRATED Magazine
« on: November 21, 2023, 10:04:24 PM »
(sorry for this large image, I’m just doing a quick & dirty on the ‘ol iPad…)

But can someone tell me which issue of Customs Illustrated this article is in? This is page 61.

Thanks,
Kieth


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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: 1967 Casting Number - Clock Code
« on: November 10, 2023, 08:01:36 AM »
“Blackcar” - THANKS for your great explanation of how to decipher a clock code, it’s more than I have ever learned before!

But now I’m confused about the dot between the 3 and the 5 - what does that one mean??

Thanks,
Kieth

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Parts For Sale / Re: Original 1966 Shelby steering wheel
« on: August 04, 2023, 08:45:07 PM »
PM sent…

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: "66 GT350 Hertz Car Rear Main Seal
« on: May 19, 2023, 03:18:00 PM »
Thank You John - much appreciated!!

Kieth

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: "66 GT350 Hertz Car Rear Main Seal
« on: May 18, 2023, 09:14:19 PM »
The two piece seal that are being sold today NEED to be fitted to your block. The las one I installed was.045" proud on both ends. You place them in the block, make sure that they are fully seated and then make sure that there is only .005" to 0.010" after fitting left proud of the block, then trim the cap end to similar dimensions. Then keeping the cap piece with the cap and the block piece with the block offset each end about 5/16" and place it all together. I clean the ends of each seal and carefully put a small - very small thin coating of LocTite 574 on each seal end and put it together. Use a one piece pan gasket and your done.

John,

Can you please share the specifics (brand, part number, sealant, tips, tricks, etc.) of the one piece pan gasket of which you speak?

Thank You!
Kieth

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CSX 2000 Series / Re: "Truth in the Morning" Daytona Coupe Article
« on: March 12, 2023, 05:52:55 PM »
Steve,

So you can feel my pain about letting the book slip thru your hands too, 'eh? Ouch!

Yes, I'll be at MCACN again this year, but I'll be furtively darting around thru the dark areas, so as to avoid the dirt demon . . . .  :o

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