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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: More Paint Items
« on: September 20, 2019, 02:00:13 PM »
Mike and Joe, I would start by getting advice from Jeff at Tri City, as they are one of top restoration shops in country as I'm sure you already know. Jeff is a great resource you can trust.

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SAAC-44 / Re: Concours and Popular Vote Event Dates??
« on: July 09, 2019, 02:07:36 PM »
 Concours is on Friday.

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Concours Talk / Re: What is the application for these plug wires
« on: July 05, 2019, 12:52:39 PM »
By the plug boots and date codes possibly 351 Windsor. Boss 302 & Cleveland heads heads did not use angled boots. Hard to tell by your photos.

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Concours Talk / Re: Emblems -- All Years
« on: June 19, 2019, 04:10:31 PM »
 Bill, reproduction parts are typically no deduction in SAAC  concours Div.II or MCA trailered concours. Definitely a deduction in SAAC premiere (DIV. I) or MCA Thoroughbred.

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Concours Talk / Re: NOS original script dual points, questions !
« on: June 07, 2019, 02:04:51 PM »
Bill, It's recommended to document original markings & colors on your car especially if they are not "typical". If judges question originality you have pictures. During judges introduction to car owner the lead judge will ask the owner if there is anything not typical about the car that should be discussed before judging begins. Undercarriage primer color is a good example.
 If a judge cannot see something (lack of Lubriplate on original FoMoCo brake shoes ) the owner is not required to have pictures of the parts not visible during judging. Many owners/restorers do take pictures of everything, however not required in SAAC or MCA judging for parts not visible during judging.

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It should be noted the 1968 wires were installed differently...different plant and year


Different calipers and caliper brackets also on 69-70.

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Up For Auction / Re: Back in the early 1990s
« on: March 27, 2019, 11:30:01 AM »
Technically The S8MS-1132-A are wheel covers rather than hubcaps. ;)

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Wanted to Buy / Re: frost plug
« on: January 06, 2019, 08:20:33 PM »
 Generic would not be concours correct in Div. 1 Premiere class. I would expect most judges would expect to see at least a couple plugs with the Diamond & MP logo. 

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: GT350 9-inch Rear Axle
« on: January 04, 2019, 06:48:53 PM »
I have a friend who worked at the Sterling axle plant . He contacted me through MM many years ago and asked how I figured out the markings on the rear axle assembly. I replied, I duplicate what I find during disassembly and document with pictures. He also explained the function of orange strap on the parking brake cable. There was a code book the Sterling assemblers used for quality control and identification. Different colors on marker pens for various shifts etc. There were red, green and white paper axle tags on tape roll (1st,2nd, 3rd shift)? No he has not found any lunch pail 981B tape rolls yet. I have figured out what many markings mean from the  info supplied. I have not been granted  permission to share and feel he should publish the article himself,which I believe is coming.
  Randy G, I love your comment.That's the first time I have been praised for my handwriting. I know the customer quite well and he did not prefer I drag the axle assembly around the shop on the floor a few laps for a little Dearborn patina. Thanks again for the Blue Streaks.
 Unfortunately I believe too much emphasis is put on paint codes and stickers etc. on many restorations. These final details do not make the restoration as some seem to believe. Believe me it took a lot more time to prep the parts and assemble the axle assembly than it did to scribble a few numbers.  Paint codes and stickers do not make up for incorrect parts and average restoration workmanship. Does a car with no orange peel really deserve a paint OK stamp? Lets not loose perspective.
 
           Bob Perkins SAAC Concours Head Judge

 

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Up For Auction / Re: 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429
« on: October 18, 2018, 09:25:05 PM »
Have to wonder why they keep referring to the B9 as a 429 CobraJet


THE # 2 copy of Ford invoice refers to the Boss 429 as the 429 4V CID Cobra Jet HO. I think they copied it from the invoice?

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The Lounge / Re: More junk from barn
« on: October 14, 2018, 11:49:44 AM »
The door sill plates are for convertible with 76 prefix in the part number.

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Concours Talk / Re: Brake Hoses -assemblyline vs service
« on: September 30, 2018, 10:20:22 AM »
This is also a great time to remind owners/builders that NOS does not always mean - like original assembly line parts - since often they are not one in the same as this one example shows. Spending the extra money to purchase NOS parts is not always the easy button to success and anyone considering these parts should ask for pictures, details and compare what is offered to real assembly line parts installed on the cars originally.


Jeff, If you buy Nos Ford Parts that were produced in the same era as the car you are using them on you get assembly line date code correct parts. If you buy Ford service parts made 30 years after the car was made you may not get assembly line parts. There were thousands of Nos Ford parts made identical to the assembly line parts that Ford parts and service sold for decades after the cars were built. If the parts are in FoMoCo or Autolite box's the parts will most often  be concours correct. If the box is current look closely! I've restored 50+ Mustang & Shelby's with nos date code correct brake hoses over the past 30 years. Correct parts are available , just not in reproduction catalogs. Don't be fooled that all nos parts are not concours date code correct!

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Slope Gray painted parts
« on: September 01, 2018, 07:41:15 PM »
1969 shelby fastback slop grey parts  metal package tray (if non fold down seat) battery tray,pair shock tower braces, pair outer coil spring snubber braces,hood latch support,pair small lower fender channel outer braces.  NPD sells slop paint in a can.

 The above items were dipped rather than spayed for correct original appearance.

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Concours Talk / Re: Concours rule change
« on: March 15, 2018, 03:28:08 PM »
Doug , It's called the unrestored class. Original paint is a requirement! The 3rd class ;), the most important class. Unfortunately not many cars left with original paint. Most Clubs try to have guidelines to meet the 3 concours classes.

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Concours Talk / Re: Concours rule change
« on: March 13, 2018, 06:06:14 PM »
How can a Car that has been repainted a different color from Factory be Concours?  Even a Car that was painted back the same color from Factory but Clear Coated shouldn't be in Concours.  Concours is Cars that are 100% Factory Correct.

I donít think a clear coat on an otherwise perfect car should matter. And it never has btw.
If the judges want to deduct for that then maybe treated like non confirming exhaust or shifter boot etc. we cant go down the road or clear vs not.
Why?
I tell you...
Because take a look a the Wimbledon  white cars.
Are they all the same color?........


 B/C paint is not an issue if applied in a manner to replicate factory appearing orange peel. The desired appearance can be achieved with single stage or B/C by skilled painters. Not everyone likes orange peel or concours in general, its a choice.

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