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A white B9 sold for 147k... I would have been pissed if it was mine. :'(

Not if you bought it for $3,500 in the 70's

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Up For Auction / Re: Was that cheap? Sammy Hagar´s Shelby
« on: January 20, 2019, 09:31:15 AM »
originally sold at bj for $250k in 2006

just sold at bj for $100k in 2019

Sammy was selling it himself in 2006, he also threw in a bunch of extra swag, and if memory serves me correctly, there may have even been a charity involved in some way, shape, or form.

2019, none of the above applied. "once owned by" no longer brings in the massive amount of extra money as it used to be.


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The Lounge / Re: Rust products
« on: January 19, 2019, 02:06:16 PM »
Holy crap!

Anyone see one of these in action?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACGSzBXKONo&feature=youtu.be

P-Lazer is the company, their QF-50 (50 watts of power) runs around $55,000 US

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Vapor lock
« on: January 19, 2019, 11:11:03 AM »
My car sat for many years and only had occasional starts and short drives. This past year I used it more and experienced vapor lock. Only happened after I had driven maybe 20-30 minutes. I have read somewhere on this forum that the alcohol blended fuel boils at a lower temp causing these cars to be prone to vapor lock. So while I am working on it this winter it might be a good time to do what I can to prevent vapor lock. The fuel lines are away from the block and the fuel log is offset from the block. I can easily insulate those, but I suspect the fuel actually boils in the carbs. Has anyone used the spacer blocks sold to isolate the carbs from heat? What have your experiences been with vapor lock and what did you do to cure it? Thanks.
Charlie D

Look at the Mr Gasket 3710 heat shield kit. I used the two smaller heat shields sandwiched between a gasket on my old 427 2X4 Tunnelport powered Cobra kit car. Had issues similar to yours in the hot, high humidity, stop and go traffic of the northeast. Once I put the heat shields in, all of those issues went away. It really is that simple a solution.

Bill S.

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The Lounge / Re: Pookie and his never ending hoard of NOS parts.
« on: January 19, 2019, 07:47:53 AM »
Certainly not NOS.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-mustang-shelby-gt350-NOS-steering-wheel-center-horn-button-original-fomoco/332993214069?hash=item4d87f13675:g:2HYAAOSwJ3Rb-Jua:rk:6:pf:0

I see the issue, it's a punctuation error.

Should read:   "New", old stock  ;)

In other words, sure, it's new, but it's someones old stock sitting on their shelf from when they received it last year  ;D

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Up For Auction / Re: ORIGINAL COBRA TOOL BAG eBay
« on: January 19, 2019, 07:45:44 AM »
Seriously?  How many of you have one of these in your trunk?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-COBRA-TOOL-BAG/302966444576?hash=item468a351220:g:fK4AAOSwo-Jb9Kyd

CUSTOM TOOL BAGS ,WERE IN ALL SHELBYS CARROLL OWNED CARS. REAR

$99.95 or Best Offer.  2 available

So, how many did you buy  ;)

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Upper firewall paint changeover
« on: January 19, 2019, 07:42:12 AM »
Ed/Jeff,

   Just as an FYI, while 1584 did have paint work after rolling out of the factory, the engine compartment was original (IE: neglected) without any rattle can touch up (left front radiator support and corner of left front inner fender panel had some rattle can do to some deformation that was repaired with a hammer in the early 70's). It was not until my misguided use of a high pressure steam cleaner (better too much pressure than not enough was my mindset at the time), that I found the factory color under the original blackout. Forget about the overspray towards the front passenger side showing in my original picture, as that was from the later paint work and was above the factory black. Just some added detail that was not posted originally to this thread.

Again, I appreciate your insight.

Bill

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Shelby’s undervalued?
« on: January 17, 2019, 02:47:34 PM »

69/70 cars are a “jump ball” with several variables which limit generalizing that group in anything less than a few paragraphs.

I hear if it is Grabber Orange you need to add 20% to the value. :D

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Shelby’s undervalued?
« on: January 17, 2019, 02:11:27 PM »
I know I am biased ;) but does anyone else feel that Shelby’s in general (with a few exceptions I.e. 65s/kr convertibles/r models) are undervalued in relation to other muscle cars given their uniqueness /rarity?Love to hear what folks think on this one.....

I never thought about the value when I purchased any of my past or current Shelbys. I wanted the car, could afford to buy it, and did.

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1968 Shelby GT350/500/500KR / Re: Question about 1968 paint
« on: January 14, 2019, 06:21:20 AM »
If the person you are alluding to is named "Pete", and the web site "coralsnake" you can take his information to the bank and forget about anything else you read elsewhere  8)

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Upper firewall paint changeover
« on: January 13, 2019, 07:29:02 AM »

Agreed, as the front fenders and hood had paint work done in the early 70's. Yet the body color under the original black out is what I was more interested in, as it reaches further forward on this car than any other car I've torn down in the past. Even my Sunlit Gold 68 Mustang (GT) convertible did not have color further forward than the edge of the front inner fender panel/shock tower, and that car was 100% original when I purchased it in 1981.

Have run across odd ball cars every once in a while from each plant where the painter got carried away and applied body color all the way up to the radiator support. Possible the new kid. Sure one of the regulars got them into line and to stop wasting time, product and effort.

Thanks Jeff  8)

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Wondering if the 69/70’s 500s typically had N or non-N carrier

Also curious about typical date codes. Mine currently has 8D24 dated, non-N nodular carrier in car built Feb 69.  Seems a bit early for car’s build date (10 months ?).

Back in the early ‘80’s used to swap in/out various 3rd members in the car   Wondering if I might have lost track of the original over the years.  Hoping I had the correct one the car as I was selling off all my extra parts 30 years ago.

What are the last 4 of your VIN?

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Upper firewall paint changeover
« on: January 12, 2019, 08:32:25 PM »
Color on the front face of the radiator support is something unrelated I believe - typically passenger side upper near where the buck tag would end up

Agreed, as the front fenders and hood had paint work done in the early 70's. Yet the body color under the original black out is what I was more interested in, as it reaches further forward on this car than any other car I've torn down in the past. Even my Sunlit Gold 68 Mustang (GT) convertible did not have color further forward than the edge of the front inner fender panel/shock tower, and that car was 100% original when I purchased it in 1981.

Bill

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Anyone still think the market is soft?

Dave

For quality cars, no, the market is not soft.
For rebodied cars, that is a whole other story.  ::)

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Upper firewall paint changeover
« on: January 12, 2019, 12:55:48 PM »
The blackout changeover was a time period change on the Ford Dearborn line and did not having to do with a specific color. I have never heard of a exact specific changeover date. It was however in the general time frame of your car. I am a little surprised for instance that the reported no black out on 2960 for instance because typically it would have the blackout given the completion time period. There may have been other extenuating  circumstances in that case.

How about the body color found all the way up to the corner of the radiator support on the upper inner fender panels? With Grabber Orange being so "opaque", do we think they would have had to lay it down further from the body/firewall?


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