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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 21, 2021, 09:06:46 PM »
That looks like some sort of bolt on brace for the lower control arm mount, doesn't it?

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 21, 2021, 09:41:25 AM »
More Titus shots

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 21, 2021, 09:39:44 AM »
More Titus shots from 68

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 21, 2021, 09:36:46 AM »
We may be mixing up races here. The shot of Suzuki's Cougar (that sounds a bit weird) is from the "Daytona Continental IIRC. That 24 hour race at Daytona in January has always been a sporty car race contested under SCCA and or FIA rules. So, Trans Am cars that ran in class at that event retained their Trans Am spec equipment (to include alloy rims). The Paul Revere road course, race at Daytona the night before the July 4th running of the Grand National Firecracker 400,was something a different night time event that started as midnight.  Based solely on the use of alloy rims on Ruby's car at that race, I am assuming that the same rules used at the "Continental" race in January applied to the Paul Revere. Can't find out much about the sanctioning rules for the Paul Revere on the web. So, I am just making assumptions. Here are some shots of a feisty little Shelby American entry that literally fought its way in the finishing line picture back in the 1968 Continental.  As most of you probably know, Titus spoiled the pristine three abreast Pourshhhhaaaaa finish line picture.  He refused to back off when one of the long tailed cars dropped back to shoo him away several laps before the end...Titius responded by applying the chrome horn to that alloy and fiberglass bodied import, modifying that cars aerodynamic profile a bit.  And so it was that the stumpy little notch back spoiled the picture of Porsche's victory in 1968.  (Titus finished 4th overall and first in class IIRC)

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 20, 2021, 09:02:35 PM »
    Same thing Ken Miler (rip) told me before he passed . "Bud wanted no part of that crap" were his words. Tony Cary bought a 'room full" of parts from Bud through Ken.
Red Myler was a capital fellow. I got to know him a bit while hanging around Bud's shop in the 80s. He was doing the read ends for BME's cup cars at the time. Who knew that years later I would get the chance to restore one of the car's he built why working at Holman Moody? He and came down to the Southland from Iowa wanting to race. And race they did. Red turned  for a number of teams, to include Reid Shaw and the Petty's (Becoming a father-in-law to one of the Petty Boys along the way).

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 20, 2021, 08:52:04 PM »
I can only assume that Bill France amended the normal wheel rules for GA cars for that race to allow the four 911s (to include Peter Gregg) and one Alfa in the field to run without double centered steel rims.  That done, alloy rims became available to the other cars in the field.  Don't believe I have ever seen another photo of any Grand American car running anywhere without double centered H&M or Nichel's steel rims.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 20, 2021, 04:49:22 PM »
I asked Bud if the GA Cougars used Tunnel Port 302s in 68 and he answered in the negative. He recalled that at some 68 races Hi-Po 289s were put back into service. IIRC the Paul Revere race that Loyd Ruby won in a Cougar was 289 powered.....irrespective of the call out on the hood.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 13, 2021, 09:14:09 PM »
Yep. Couple of times. Years ago. The Cyclone was featured at the Boss Nationals one year. The Lorenzen car was also featured one year.  Haven't really had time to go back. Or at least I didn't while still living in Texas. I plan on taking in more shows now that I am officially a drain on society.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 13, 2021, 02:35:49 PM »
This is my clone. I might have to do a NASCAR themed car next.

Sweet! Is that the street legal car I have seen shots of on the web? Hope my replica Bobby Allison Boss 302 turns out half as nice!

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 13, 2021, 02:31:05 PM »

C5HM,
I was a big fan of your 64 and monitored its build over the years. In my opinion it was just too awesome to describe.
With respect to the extreme scarcity of real HM cars/chassis and the degree of effort and skill you put into bringing HM cars back from such, eh, degraded beginnings, was/is the 64 now just too far gone beyond repairability?
(if this is too much a personal question I take no offense it letting it slide)
Thx, Steve A
Thanks for the kind words. I hated to lose the 64. BUT..it was full of the toxic stuff that was dissolved in SE Texas flood water.  Up over the carb.  That means that everything would have to have been immediately disassembled and flushed to prevent major corrosion and rust damage. Engine, trans, rear end, hubs...everything.  Along with that car, I lost six others...my house and my shop. And all of my tools. Lived in a hotel for a month or so and then an apartment. Plus I was very busy at work. The very expensive Candy Tangerine paint job (3.5K just in materials) would have needed to be stripped down to bare metal and redone, too. So...No time/no place and no ability to work on the car resulted in the insurance company taking it. I had A LOT of stated value insurance on the car. So all is good on that front.  Not sure where it is now.  The two previous cars I restored before the Galaxie are still being vintage raced at least. I would have lost them too if I had not sold them.  I have heard that Curt Vogt is maintaining the Cyclone tribute I built first (NO real deal Wood Brothers SIIs survive). Not sure who the new owner is. Does anyone know? It ran at Road Atlanta last year IIRC. The 65 Daytona 500 winner still belongs to Andrew Franzone who runs it at Sonoma from time to time. It has been to Goodwood three times (the last two with Andrew). I was told it snagged  "Top 35" recognition at the last Festival of Speed it attended. That is big smoke considering the cars that show up at the F.O.S. each year.  Maybe the Torino will earn an invite when it is done.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 13, 2021, 08:23:48 AM »
Here's a shot of the Yellow M/T salt flats car serving as a show car draw at a 1969 auto show (not sure where/when). I'd like to know what became of that car. Gus T. Heard it was crushed in a Cali earth quake. Other believe it went Grand American racing like the #49.

I have this photo noted as the Detroit Auto Show, and believe it to be in late November 1968.
Thanks for the additional Data. I am assuming that M/T was at Bonneville in August id 68. Does that sound right?

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 12, 2021, 09:55:59 PM »
Is the red cylinder the fire bottle?

Nitrous?
Nope: That is the Ansul "Purple K" dry powder fire system that was used in the 70s.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 12, 2021, 09:42:03 PM »
If it wasn't for the Galaxie clip and the cage there wouldn't be anything left. lol.

HM built fewer than 120 cars from 60 through 72. Very few real deal cars exist.  Only one Fairlane survives and just two (HM8-033S is one) former/now up bodied Fairlanes are around. Early half chassis cars were the first real step towards the purpose built tube chassis cars of today. Old stock cars did not lead pampered lives. They were often raced and wrecked until there was nothing left. The chassis' original suspension points were/are in place. I enjoy the work and the chassis had an interesting history.  If I hadn't already had all of the necessary H&M suspension/brake and other bits and pieces in hand..and if I were not turning the wrenches myself... the resto would certainly not have been feasible.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 12, 2021, 09:11:43 PM »
More resto.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 12, 2021, 09:04:49 PM »
Restoration: It's been slow going on the resto front. First I had another H&M car to finish before getting started on the Torino. And I do all of my own work (save for final bondo and point). Plus, I am old and slow. I also was a wage slave when I first got the car and could only work on weekends. Then came Hurricane Harvey and a big last capital case I had to litigate before retirement. The Hurricane flooded my hose (lost the house shop seven cars to motorcycles and four fresh engines I had just built).   Had to live in a hotel and then an apartment with no shop for more than a year. Got my verdict and turned in my retirement papers and then moved back to Florida. So...the car has taken longer than planned. It is nearing completion. Here are some posts of the resto to date.

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