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Concours Talk / Re: Real original or reproduction
« on: March 14, 2024, 02:27:30 PM »
If ACSCO Products created the originals, and then continued to create the emblems for the aftermarket. Wouldn't those emblems be virtually the same? Tooling wears out over time, so there may be less crispness in the later emblems.

I am not aware if anyone other than ACSCO Products, that has made reproduction emblems. Anyone know?

https://youtu.be/4ZfRtaCERnU?si=sINFx68StfwVulT8
Stamping metal dies typically wear down and need repair. I'm not so sure about die cast molds though that make emblems and side marker bezels and such.

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Power Steering Pump Color?
« on: March 14, 2024, 12:15:06 PM »
Much , much more, good comes from out of the NPD doors... then bad. We are glad they are on our team. ;)
+1 Been dealing with them since the T Bird parts store days and have a very low 3 digit customer number which is also the CI of a Chevy engine. It is easier to give them my number then spell my last name on orders. Rarely have I ever taken parts back and most of the ones were Drake parts doing my 68 Shelby. I've known Scott there for about 4 decades.

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Power Steering Pump Color?
« on: March 14, 2024, 11:30:19 AM »
As Bob G has stated there was a range of this color,.

another option...

https://www.npdlink.com/product/power-steering-pump-paint/143996?backurl=search%2Fproducts%3Fsearch_terms%3Dpower%252Bsteering%252Bpaint%26top_parent%3D200001%26year%3D1967&year=1967
I got a chuckle at the NPD description. I will have to have a talk with Scott from NPD so he can be informed  ;) . I have not seen the NPD paint sprayed out recently but have a high confidence level that it will fall within the parameters.
LOL that description is funny.  The best way to do this is to get a bunch of friends together and buy a quart or pint matched to a pump or spray card and have it put it rattle cans and split the cost. I'd bet less than 18 bucks a can. Since they do not have the color on the cap I have no clue if it was my spray card that they made it off of now with their latest mix off of several pumps. See the blue on this pump? It was matched pretty much exact off of a 1968 390 pump that was built around the same time as my car. More blue than most but painter's supply mixed it and I had them fill up a bunch of rattle cans and IIRC the end cost was about 10 bucks a can in 2008. THe lighting make the color vary in the few pics I have of my 68 pump.

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Barn Find Shelby Story Must Read!!
« on: March 14, 2024, 09:39:02 AM »
69 Mach1  original paint  Ford drag team car(R code). It sat next to a house across from my friends house growing up(early to mid 70s). A guy on the next street from when I gre up bought it after his 69 SCJ Mach1 was totaled. I chased that car for a decade in when the owner moved 3 times (once behind a funeral home so people always knocking on the door). Each time he was selling then after looking at the car he backed out(factory worker at GM with a wife and 3 kids). He had my number but ended up selling it to a guy I kinda knew. Chased it from that guy for years wanting to buy it then he sells it to another guy...Funny in that the car was a black jade car and I ended up selling a black Jade DP 69 to the guy's brother so they both ended up with Black jade R-code Mach1s.
 I chased a 68 GT500 that the owner said he would never sell. He repainted the car(white car) installed KR blue stripes and never fixed the rust hole in the rear quarter and with the black steel wheels looked like a beater. notes left on the car every time he took it to the store.  Lived on the same street as the other guy mentioned who I tried to buy the BJ car from. The guy had a cammer Maverick and a Cammer F-100 tractor pulling truck also. He said the Gt500 survived the divorce and he would never sell it as he bought it right out of 'Nam. Well a guy I knew from HS ended up buying it for a ridiculous low price many years later. Sometimes they are not meant to be.

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Power Steering Pump Color?
« on: March 14, 2024, 06:21:22 AM »
Not sure if it helps, but Scott drake provides a rattle can of that color.
A 1968 Shelby that I restored in the late 2000s soured me on Drake products. The parts I bought didn't fit correctly so I took back(finally found NOS) what I bought and the one thing that fit but wasn't correct-a 4 speed shift knob- the incorrect silver ring(should be chrome) started deteriorating within a year. The knob was put on for driving wear as I had a nice original one for it put away. Too bad the Mustang community doesn't have the quality of overall parts available as the Mopar community does.

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1967 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Power Steering Pump Color?
« on: March 12, 2024, 09:28:11 AM »
What is the correct color for a 67' power steering pump housing can color?

 I see lite blueish silver or that Blueish green color.

Thanks
It depends on the power steering pump MFG. The ones with the W on the second line on the metal tag on the back of the pump are made by TRW and are black . It will also have a TRW trademark made into the cast iron casting on the front of the pump core. The pump that has a F in that second line is made by Ford Thompson  and is painted the teal bluish color . Both pumps were used in 67 San Jose production.  There are also differences in the dipstick and aluminum pump bracket depending on MFG too.
I've seen many shades of that teal blue as I call it. I got a can once mixed up by George Huisman off of a 1969 NOS B9 PS pump. I also mixed some paint up off an original 68 390 pump. I have a NOS 1970 PS pump put away for 4 decades that is another shade of it. NPD used  my 68 shade for a long time as they were selling incorrectly the 65 shade at the time-mid 2000s. I gave a color swatch to my friend Scott at NPD back around 2007. Scott does the ordering and catalogs for the 65-73 Mustangs for NPD in Canton Mi.
  JD's pics are real close to my 69 paint on my 70 Shelby pump. The 68 was more blue and my 70 was more green but since it was batch paint made from 3-4 other colors it varied. 
 This B9 is original

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Wanted to Buy / Re: WTB 69 GT500 ram air seal
« on: March 11, 2024, 03:32:40 PM »
Just for the Knowledge,  Are the 68 GT 350, 68 GT 500, 68 GT 500KR, 69 GT 350 and 69 GT500 all the Same or are any of them Different?
68 GT350 didn't have a seal as well as the 68 GT500. KR had a seal around the air cleaner.  69-70 GT350 and 500s they were glued to the hood and were different diameters.

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Tilt turn switch wiring
« on: March 11, 2024, 08:56:20 AM »
I sent some pics to Dennis Yoo from a spare tilt column I have. I pulled the column out of a 1969 Mach1 in 1980. Put a new service switch from Ford in it. Ran the column in a 69 Mach1 for 4 years and then my Shelby until 1996. everything worked. Pics are how I wired it and the "spare" wires from a 1 switch fits all service part. I hope this helps some others in the future.

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Wanted to Buy / Re: WTB 69 GT500 ram air seal
« on: March 11, 2024, 06:12:56 AM »
i sent one to a guy to have made but have no info yet as to when they will be done.
are you having both done? I have my originals off of my GT350 vert and my old GT500.

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Up For Auction / Re: 8T02R21031703701 on BAT
« on: March 10, 2024, 01:51:52 PM »
Pretty sure that car shelbymann1970 posted is #793 - not a KR
Pete, I just looked into the registry and saw Lee Detrick was a prior owner. Unless Lee had 2 68s that he turned into drag cars i remember him telling me it was a wrecked car that he started with. On one forum Lee chimed in on the cars that he has(had?) of his 67(Brutus) and 68 FBs he listed many others including a 68 Shelby. A  people search says Lee is 81 now(still alive then I'd think). 

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1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: Registering and titling a '65 GT350
« on: March 10, 2024, 01:44:29 PM »
what is the personal property tax rate on autos in Mo? I read online where Va is 4.15 per 100 so that would be 4150 per 100K per year just to own the car in Va? that is nuts. Here in Mi I have paid ZERO for years and have a lifetime same year plate on my Shelby. Ditto for my Mach1.

In VA, that is a one time sales tax amount on the purchase price of the vehicle. Older cars like that then don't get included in the annual personal property tax.
[/quote]Brant, How does the personal property tax work in Va? On an annual basis what do you get taxed on in regards to Personal Property Tax? Thanks.

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Up For Auction / Re: 8T02R21031703701 on BAT
« on: March 09, 2024, 10:55:09 AM »
Pretty sure that car shelbymann1970 posted is #793 - not a KR
Very well could be. Back in the 70s/80s I've known a few cars that were "S" codes but the owners said KRs. I'm going off of what Lee said 4 decades ago.

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Up For Auction / Re: Apparently not...
« on: March 09, 2024, 10:50:00 AM »
Just look at the prices of other items he sells and you may be surprised. Do the prices give a indication of other things like over sized ego? Heaven help you if question anything. I messaged him and suggested that he include 67 Ten spoke as a additional application for some S7MS lugnuts he had listed for 69 Shelby so as to widen his net and wished him well with his auction . You would have thought I called him a dirty name the way he messaged back and bit my head off. Kind of a D!(K  move if you ask me.
I got a pair of these in the boxes. I'll be nice and sell a pair for what he wants for 1  ;D  https://www.ebay.com/itm/266259098980?itmmeta=01HRHY415PMSYWWXQTM0MNVP99&hash=item3dfe476d64:g:1aIAAOSwOzJlV6cr

Now I have been following this knob for years. He started under a thousand. Then went up to 1200. When it was 1600 I bought an NOS one off of Jim Cowles(RIP) for 275. Now he want 1975 for it. Parts are not for sale but advertisement. https://www.ebay.com/itm/264340679907?itmmeta=01HRHYD84XX4GMM7MJNWX6HE7M&hash=item3d8beeace3:g:9QoAAOSwhqVbKs~n&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0Kl7XaLdVcW0ozJj%2FiwNlsEELsX4WyKKuK7tX1WSEsZKN%2BdRU5vBQOQt%2BIBQE5UefVWLnB718ic0%2BQPo9R4XwJOrT6r4o%2FaToa9TgkVr%2BQ%2F%2BgIjR6eH%2FevSjHuJTsDoE80yLwQmdvnpkUK2StPBJF4S1BYa%2B83%2Fsajfu2kKkw7ze32Je0qJtbGnDKCs1%2Fu4218wLVshAVKBdv9Tsk2mwQA7Ushw2Iv9sHo4NSiDBhM895tWevDGhqIvK0e6RDiWwnIVqFL7Tfx97j6YAu%2BNOe6w%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8yCtb7EYw

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Up For Auction / Re: 8T02R21031703701 on BAT
« on: March 09, 2024, 10:01:53 AM »
I would not do that to a regular production Mustang let alone one identifiable as a Shelby.

In my view reactions actually cut both ways though. There are those that are openly indignant of how the car currently appears and don't have issues with expressing that and the owners are indignant that the car does not fit into the "Shelby's society's" definition of how the car should be.

Often I notice quite a visible attitude of arrogance on both sides. I personally attempt to avoid both groups and try to appreciate both even though at times it can be quite an abstract endeavor.

I suppose I should point out that I have in fact been told to "go back to my arrogant SAAC buddies" as well as politically be told by both the extreme left and right that, "we don't need you here. Stop telling people that you know "me"." So I kind of get it all, generally, if not specifically speaking.

It is very helpful if you have a thick enough skin to be able to tolerate it all and being a native New Yorker I understand that nobody here agrees on anything anyway, no one likes each other and that everyone complains about everything all the time.

All things considered though it would be nice that once in a while one of our major league sports teams could win something and at least get into the finals? See. Complaints, complaints!  :)
Good post Doug.  On the one note I highlighted in red I'd say it depends on when it was done and what it was done to. The KR I pointed out was bought as a wrecked totaled car. Guy who bought it drag raced  a 68 FB(his wife) and a 67 FB(his). Cars were pretty stock body wise with no real modifications that were not easily undone. The Shelby provided the "next class" car he was looking to build. Late 70s early 80s it was done. I fully understand why he did it because the car would have went to the junkyard and later crusher otherwise but is still alive in an iteration of it's former self.

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Up For Auction / Re: Apparently not...
« on: March 09, 2024, 09:21:56 AM »
Quote
We can tell an original one from a repro in about 10 seconds!

:o

https://www.ebay.com/itm/266346438481?epid=8010408154&itmmeta=01HRG2SGP6SFK0J85H9M73FSMG&hash=item3e037c1f51:g:vHwAAOSwT0RkvuUm&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwNyrBNPePOWt%2BdfJ21nwXrBzxaK8o573qGYliiXRpGQmRs5%2FxPLUvFOn2rUlSPJGXk%2F7OoC0x23zvNR2SncSF11PZAbUyNP6Hhdrpapku9dHA2K%2FD7Rt4V4yTV5beJt9Gr5h4hyHz0Pl%2FKUEDuy%2BElvoI0EvuqzcjSMr3m2f28F0LH%2BN7dhs24Av%2FQ9QE%2Fs%2FiohMI18T--hIh9%2FDLCp7AfpQI3CwBLiqAaE7ph0NMB9fWiW%2BIzvf5aiQIPOpUkguMA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7CL5oLEYw

The 4spd knob shown did not carry the part number on the box shown on this auction.

"Caveat Emptor"

Either artfully worded or a mistake
Steve is getting to be Mr Strange it appears. He wouldn't sell a Boss 9 part to my friend because my friend has never bought from him before. "Strange"

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