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I guess getting back to the original point of this is that did Ford build out Shelbys knowing they would be converted to 70 models? 4 speed  GT350 distributors are dated June of 1969 so well before the end of the last Shelby being produced. With ford having designs going for a 71 Shelby and AO Smith cancelling their contract after 1969 did Ford decide to keep building 69 Shelbys under the contract with AO Smith knowing these built cars would eventually be 1970 models? I know Claude wanted a bunch for his dealership in Belgium and ordered a bunch of 70s but other than that what was Ford's direction in all of this? I don't think this topic has ever been discussed in length and too many people say all 1970s were leftover 69s that Ford couldn't sell so they decided to convert to 1970 models. Time frame from distributors being made, Ford testing to come up with the ED distributors, Claude ordering 70 Shelby all point to me that Ford possibly in the spring decided to build out some Shelbys for 1970 after losing the AO Smith contract at the end of 1969 production. Thoughts?
 Also on my 1969 1970 Shelby Mustang Facebook page I started a topic on 70 GT350 distributors  since we have some 70 owners on the page to find out  to what is on people's cars.

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Just checked my notes and 0f03R480909 is the oldest 70 shelby serial # and it was used as a shelby company car and probly built in jan 69 at dearborn plant. So this car maybe the oldest early serial # 70 shelby BUT not the first 69 shelby converted over to a 70 at KK plant. I wonder if THE  VINMAN knows the number of the first  or last 70 shelby finished at KK plant as that would be interesting to know.
Could this pic lend a hint as to what model as in it could have been one of these cars? Larry took this pic either March or April 1969. Average weather with the melting from my years  living in this area would be late March early April by looking at the pic.

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I don't know why it load upside down

Patrick
It matches what is on my Dist but the difference is Shelby dist are stamped ED for some reason and I suspect they are NOT the same how it is set up in the guts to a 70 351W 2V which is a different engine and carb.

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Gary is the engineering number on your distributor a D0 number and you are thinking that since it has a June date it would have been used in your engine instead of a modified C9 marked version like is more typical?
yes. Read my OP and reply #1 by Pete.  See my blown up pic below.  https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=20222.0

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Your distributor was removed at kk plant and upgraded to 1970 specs and stamped ED  in front of id # EDited like all 70 shelbys were at kk plant. I have the 70 KK papers that said what  had to be changed out at kk plant to meet new 1970 specs.  gt350s had changes made on distributors while the gt500s had there distributors changed out to dozf # with no ED stamped like he 351w cars did. We had a 70 gt350 here years ago that had the same ED stamped in it like your 70 distributor.
Yes. I'm not sure if I'm reading your post right. The date code on my dist  is stamped June 24 1969. My point is that is when the dist was made/stamped. Was my dist used on any other 1970 Ford engine? My original one would have a C**** part number on it when my engine was assembled possibly April 1969. So to me the dist were changed out and not modified at KK if built months earlier. So were the mods done on the date of June 24th or at KK. Seems to me Ford would batch do the dists and have them ready to drop in the car at KK. Car was changed over in Oct according to stamped docs I have.

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / 1970 Shelbys. What was Ford's plan and when?
« on: January 18, 2024, 10:33:31 AM »
I was looking at the date on my dist in my 351. It is dated 9F24. June 24. So my assumption based on AO Smith terminating their contract after the 69 model year was that Ford built out 69 Shelbys knowing many would become 70s. The myth being Ford had so many left after production they decided to turn them into 70s. The dist date code means Ford already did their emissions well before that date and started producing 351 distributors for the 1970 model year Shelby. Thoughts?

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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: January 18, 2024, 08:13:47 AM »
For that economy minded rotisserie restoration enthusiast we have this special kit just for you.....
Is that is what's left of your vert after the fire ? Restoring it? ;D ;D

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   I learned a few years ago to sit in a place where  the TV & a Computer are side by side while watching the auctions. The computer doesn't give you the coverage TV does, at least you get to see the cars you wanted to.... 8)

+1

You can also stream the live broadcast on your computer while looking at upcoming lots on a separate tab (while at work  ;D).
Hey, I resemble that remark  ::)

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The Northwest Shelby collection didn't seem to make the broadcast at least not in my area ,they ended  right as they were coming up the staging area's,they showed the yellow kR with the hood up & it had a GT500 air cleaner set up  & a painted black taillight panel.

Same here. Disappointing to not see the collection go across. I was looking forward to seeing these cross the block. Kinda weird broadcast hours as I don’t think they were on the air for Saturday night’s action.
Did they stop the live coverage at 5? IIRC that is what they did when I was at the spring Indy auction. I had a friend who is also a member here who had a bunch of cars that missed the TV part due to the auction running late on that Friday the 19th. https://www.mecum.com/auctions/indianapolis-2023/collections/the-waterford-collection/    Barrett Jackson because of the time zone may be why we see the live portion running later out west than we see of Eastern time zone auctions.

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Gravel Guard question
« on: January 17, 2024, 07:20:40 AM »
Ed, do you know if the are splined near the flat head to lock them in place and can you just punch them out to remove?
they look welded in?

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Does anyone know why the pair of L88 Corvettes(67+69) disappeared as a pair? It wouldn't be the first time a hyped 7 figure car got pulled. They were advertised as lot U78 first and last L88s produced.

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Correct Toploader ? for 70 Shelby GT500
« on: January 16, 2024, 02:07:35 PM »
I know that the 70 shelby was basically a 69 with a 70 vin number,
But what toploader is correct for a 70 GT500 ?

Would it have the same RUG-AE2 tag, C7OR tail  thats in the 69 and use the same 69 shifter?
or
Would it be a RUG-AZ tag , with a D0ZR tail and a Hurst shifter
The only things that would not be as assembly line"69" built would be your carb and dist with a manual choke cable, hood stripes and front spoiler added along with tire pressure sticker on pass door jamb and 69 data plate replaced with data sticker. Now I'll also say it is possible depending on when a 70 left KK they could have had the later "size" tires mounted for a few reasons. I'm pretty sure mine left KK with size tires(pics from 70-71 the car has size tires) on it but that is an old discussion I don't want to get revisited.
Oh come on. ;D
I only wish someone could enhance this pic from the last batch leaving KK April 1970.

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Correct Toploader ? for 70 Shelby GT500
« on: January 16, 2024, 01:31:32 PM »
Well, depending on where the car was sent, it could have more modifications like the evap emissions

😉
I knew I'd forget something. Thanks Pete.

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Correct Toploader ? for 70 Shelby GT500
« on: January 16, 2024, 11:25:39 AM »
I know that the 70 shelby was basically a 69 with a 70 vin number,
But what toploader is correct for a 70 GT500 ?

Would it have the same RUG-AE2 tag, C7OR tail  thats in the 69 and use the same 69 shifter?
or
Would it be a RUG-AZ tag , with a D0ZR tail and a Hurst shifter
The only things that would not be as assembly line"69" built would be your carb and dist with a manual choke cable, hood stripes and front spoiler added along with tire pressure sticker on pass door jamb and 69 data plate replaced with data sticker. Now I'll also say it is possible depending on when a 70 left KK they could have had the later "size" tires mounted for a few reasons. I'm pretty sure mine left KK with size tires(pics from 70-71 the car has size tires) on it but that is an old discussion I don't want to get revisited.

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1969-1970 Shelby GT350/500 / Re: Gravel Guard question
« on: January 16, 2024, 11:18:24 AM »
Yours are twisted off like one of mine and the studs have a flat head to keep from pulling thru.  Anybody know where u can buy them studs or make them as many are twisted off ?
I can make some but would need a drawing or example.

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