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I found these pieces in the trunk of a 67 Shelby GT 500 project I purchased.

They look like 68 302

Thoughts?

I have a little experience with this question...

With the Hertz's I'd say the color doesn't matter......
800 black Hertz's VS maybe 55 green ones..

Price wise no different.....

However, a nightmist blue '67 VS a lime gold is a much different equation..

Just my. 02

Bret

Quite sure #1 wasn't a FB....

Quote from: Wedgeman on June 01, 2020, 05:02:21 PM
does the VIN tag look ...original?

yes....

Quote from: gpm6367 on May 30, 2020, 06:43:36 PM
A lot of information.

So the consensus is all 68s should have VIN stamp even if assembled in late 67? I was told it started in calendar year 68. This car was bucked 11/29/67.

The casting numbers and dates on block and heads are consistent with vehicle assembly. I saw no VIN but given what has been said here I really need to closely examine entire motor.

The trans is not original.

At different times I owned #64 and #66...
Neither had VINS but if I remember the dates were perfect on the engine..

And they were built the same day...

Quote from: Bob Gaines on May 30, 2020, 12:04:45 PM

Quote from: gpm6367 on May 30, 2020, 05:44:58 AM
I'm having a hard time orientating myself to the location of the stamp on the block in that last photo. That is on the back of the head?

Also told that early cars did not have VIN stampings. Does anybody know when the VIN stamp began? This car was has 11/29/67on buck tag and door tag says 12/4/67. Should this vehicle have VIN stamps?

As Coralsnake posted all should have vin stamped in 68 . One of the confusing things is that although the vin was stamped on the driver side head in the rear from the factory , that same head if switched to the passenger side during a valve job or engine rebuild will have the vin stamp now show up on the passenger side front. It happens frequently during engine repair as there is typically no regard to the vin orientation (if the vin stamp can even be seen after painting) by most.

You're so right Bob...
I purchased a 70 GT 500 SCJ awhile back...

I looked for a VIN on the driver's head and there was none.
The date of the block was off too..
I just about gave up....
However, at the last moment I checked the passenger head and there it was...!

482842

My Dad landed on the beaches of Normandy France the first week of July 1944.

He was part of that great generation.

Miss him terribly....

This is what I received after asking them what I needed to to............


Thanks, You can get them from any grocery stores close to you. You can purchase $100 or $50 denominations - The total amount you need to get is $400, it should be four cards at $100 each. kindly open and scratch the back of the card and send me pictures showing the sixteen digit pin at the back of the card. I have attached a sample of what the cards look like.

Let me know how soon you can have this done?

G

Hi Bret,

Good to hear from you, hope all is well with you? I need to get four iTunes gift cards for my niece, It's her birthday but I can't do this now because I'm currently traveling. Can you get it for me from any store around you? I'll pay back next week when I get back home.


G

I got the message today...
They wanted me to go out and spend $400 on phone cards for a SAAC member.

I told them to go F themselves.

Prefer NOS if anyone has one...

bret@capecodmustang.com

Quote from: Dan Case on May 04, 2020, 10:43:54 AM
The starter would be in the way at some point in the process but engines were shipped to vehicle assembly plants without starters installed yet.

That's good to know...
I wonder perhaps if they put a starter on the car and then assigned it to a vehicle...
At that time they would know the VIN and stamp the engine...
Makes no sense of course to take the starter off just to stamp the engine....

Thank you!

I've yet to see any VIN stamped in that location.

Normally the starter would be in the way...

Is there a possibility they stopped stamping there when the cars started being mass produced in Dearborn?

Quote from: Dan Case on May 03, 2020, 05:51:14 PM

Quote from: Bill Collins on May 03, 2020, 04:59:53 PM
August 1st is an interesting date, as it was the first day of actual 1965 model year production at Dearborn Assembly. "!964 1/2" production ended the day before, July 31.

Perhaps this anomaly may have something to do with that - it is also intriguing that your VIN is 250,000. The highest 64 1/2 Mustang VIN listed in the Mustang Production Guide by Jim Smart and Jim Haskell, was 220310 built on July 31. So it appears they "jumped" to 250,000 to start actual 1965 model year production. Looks like you may have the first scheduled regular 1965 production Mustang to be built at Dearborn!

Also note the "SP PRO" stamp - could likely stand for "special production" or "special promotion" as in a showing car - does it have any other outstanding features? What is the DSO code on the tag? Car 5F09K250009, also built August 1st, is another HiPo fastback with an 89 DSO, which is Ford Transportation Services.

Quote from: Bill Collins on May 03, 2020, 05:20:16 PM
Car 250009 was also Rangoon Red with a red interior and non locking 3:89 rear

Am I missing something? Darken the mid tones in the block picture the OP provided and the last digit is a 9 and not a zero.

Correct...
It's finishes in a "9"

Bill...
Is it correct to assume that 250001 to 250008 could be Mustang coupes, Fairlanes etc etc...?