SAAC Forum

Hey Guys

I purchased the Battery Tender Plus and would like to know if
any of you are using one?

If so, do you just use the alligator clips or actually install
the smaller ring terminals on the battery?

For those that drive your car, do you keep the battery
in the car or take it out after each drive?

My plan is to purchase a regular 24F battery and use the
Scott Drake Autolite sta-ful cover on top.

Thanks

Ron

Should I trim the access or just fold into the fender well as shown in the pic?
Thanks
Ron

My son sent me this link.  Said it will be out in March.  Pretty cool. 1/2 GT,  1/2 Shelby ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/lego/comments/am1k4u/new_creator_ford_mustang/?st=JRMBKNHX&sh=fe1d809d

Ron

I had to replace the engine gauge feed harness as I had purchased a small block application.

Questions ...
Is this the right one?
Does this require the ignition coil to be mounted to the intake rather than to the DS cylinder head?  It looks like the wires will be too short unless I move it from the cylinder head.   
Are all three j hooks used for the wiring harness along the valve covers?
What happens with the oil pressure line since it is no longer used?  Taped off with black electrical tape?

Thanks
Ron

These pics and captions were in the Houston Chronicle today. Brought back some great memories as I was 10 at the time!
Ron


Congestion on the Southwest Freeway and that darn Mustang!

Grand opening of Intercontinental Airport with the Blue Angels performing.

Apollo 11 Astronauts Neil A. Armstrong, Edwin E. Aldrin Jr. and Michael Collins in a ticker-tape parade through downtown Houston in August 16, 1969 celebrating their moon landing.

Pursuit of Robert Dent in southeast Texas, May 1969, which inspired the film "The Sugarland Express."

"Mosquito Man" We loved chasing this guy through the streets as kids

I saw this on craigslist ...

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/1967-shelby-mustang-fastback/6744407622.html

Very interesting and original paperwork.  What is the C5AZ identifier on the dealer installed FE 427?

Registry does indicate that the car was "towed into J.D. Ball on 4/24/68 after #3 piston came off the connecting rod ..."

Ron

Hey Guys,

The 2nd owner of my car Mr. Kevin Mahoney (1968-74) sent me some info and history on #861 as well as two original polaroid pics.  The first was taken shortly after Kevin purchased the car in 1968 and the second is dated March 1971 with a replacement fender.  Kevin said that he "hit a tree in a snowstorm" and ordered parts and had Wilmington Ford do the repairs.  A few of notable quotes from his write up ...

"I raced it at Epping NH.  I also road raced it around Weston, Ma.  It was the hottest and fastest car in town and got me the head cheerleader!  We would go fishing and camping to N.H  We would fold down the rear seat, open the hatch into the trunk and sleep."

"I use to road race with a GTO, 2 other Shelby's (GT500 & 350) 427 Biscayne, 427 Corvette, 426 Hemi Cuda and a lot more.  It was the 60's and 70's and we loved it!  Got clocked doing 130 on a Mass pike racing Al's GTO.  I won of course!  Nobody will ever have the thrill with that car that I had.  Its too expensive to do what I did to it!"

Great stuff!  So glad that I was able to locate Kevin and his willingness to share stories and pics.  Kevin, closed his letter by saying "I've been searching for that car for 30 years!"

Have you guys used a lift plate when installing an engine for a dual quad GT 500?   Did you remove both carbs?  Which carb (front or back) did you use to install the lift plate?  I read that an aluminum intake is fine with a lift plate as long as you thread the bolts in securely  Additionally, I am considering the Mac's Pivot Plate as an option.  Any experience/testimonials with it?

http://www.macscustomtiedowns.com/product/pivot-engine-lift-plate/PiVOT-and-Adapters

Finally,

Here is what I am considering on the day of installation ...

1) Early start with lots of coffee and friends that know what they are doing!
2) Use packing blanket or other material to protect engine compartment
3) Lift rear of car
3) Hoist engine and trans together
4) Clear radiator support and then tilt engine
5) Gently guide engine/trans until trans touches floor jack
6) Jack up rear of trans while leveling engine to motor mounts

I have headers.  Some have suggested loosening the passenger side header for ease of installation.
What about power steering sleeve and valve.  Should I remove them first?

Celebrate Big Block reunion!  Last installed in 1973!

Thanks
Ron

67 GT500 #861.

I talked with the 2nd owner of my car (Kevin Mahoney 1968-73).
Kevin mentioned that he rebuilt the original engine in 1968-69 time line,
but actually removed the engine/trans in 73 and replaced with a small block 289.

He said the gas crisis was a killer on big block cars and he could not afford to pay for the gas.
I don't recall the impact of that embargo as a 14 year old, but I do remember the
1979 crisis as I got into a fight with a line cutter! LOL!

Tried to find a Shelby in a gas line in 73 but the best I could do was a 68
Fastback and 66 coupe.

Anyone else with a Shelby that had a similar fate or story?

Ron

Hey Guys

Sorry for all the questions.  My car is an original GT 500 automatic, but when I purchased it a PO had swapped out the 428 for a small block 4-speed back in the early 70's.  Something to do with being in college and no money for gas!  LoL!

The first pic is one from my internet library of 67 Shelby cars.  I believe this pic is from Virginia Mustang and an original GT500 auto that they were cleaning up and trying to keep as original as possible.  If you can see just above the neutral safety switch it looks like a J hook holding the neutral safety wire in place.  Is this correct?

The 2nd pic is my transmission and trying to get the correct pieces in place before reinstalling.  Does my set up look correct?  J hook, and spring routed back to a small clip?  What am I missing beside the elusive shifter rod and transmission tube.  Can't seem to find those two pieces anywhere.  If you have one and willing to sell it, please PM me.

Thanks

Ron

I believe the C7ZA-7326-A shift rod was used from '67-'69 on FE Shelby/Mustangs/Cougars with C6, but not totally sure.  I can't seem to find one anywhere.
Thanks
Ron

Nice looking and rare car!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Ford-Mustang-GT/163237821290?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Hey Guys,

Does anyone have any pics or information on Wilmington Ford - Wilmington, MA?
My car was shipped to Wilmington Ford on 3/27/1967, but I have not heard much about it.

I did read this about Jay Leno which I thought was pretty cool ...

Leno: "When I was a kid, I always liked stuff that rolled, exploded, and made noise. I liked cars and motorcycles.
When I was old enough, I worked at a Ford dealership in Wilmington, Massachusetts-Wilmington Ford-as a lot boy.
My parents always had Fords. In fact, at the time, we had a '64 Galaxie with a 352 V-8. I talked my dad into buying
a '66 7-Litre Ford with the 428.

I always liked Henry Ford. When I was a kid, I decided I wanted to work for Wilmington Ford. We had this nasty used car manager
and I was carrying a bunch of used hubcaps. I came around the corner and bumped into him, dropped the wheel covers, and
he said, "You're fired!" I didn't tell my parents for a couple of weeks. I wrote a letter to Henry Ford and Ford's board of directors to
tell them my dad had a Galaxie, my mom had a Falcon, and I hoped to have a Mustang one day. I told them about my firing and
how unfair it was. About three weeks later, the owner of Wilmington Ford called and offered me my job back. I've been a loyal Ford guy ever since.

I was one of those kids who believed in the Total Performance thing that Ford had going at the time-Lee Iacocca, the 289 engine. I mean,
I love the 289 because it could be anything you wanted it to be. You could have dual-quads on it in a Cobra or Mustang. You could put Webers
on it and make it look like the most exotic European engine ever. They had an overhead cam version of it for Indy-just an incredible engine."

Hey Guys

Happy Labor Day!

I am familiar with the extra piece that was welded into the auto shifter, but what is this bolt for?  It has no threads at the end and fits into the small hole
in the base.  It appears to be some type of detent.  Was this added by a PO or added by SA?

Thanks
Ron

Completed the rebuild on the p/s pump, sleeve, and heater core, and radiator, but no motivation to get back in the garage for engine/trans install.
Too darn hot and humid!
Ron

I have an original  67 Shelby C6 trans that I purchased from Tim L for my GT500.

The transmission will be mounted to a 67 FE 427 MR Side Oiler.

What torque converter stall speed do you guys have or recommend?

Primarily street driven w/occasional strip.

I am not sure that a formula exists to determine this, but this is the info that is usually asked by those that make/sell converters ...

Car:
3:25 posi rear
Tires - Rear 235 60 15

Engine: 
C7AE-A/427-67 Side Oiler Block (Date 7C3)
C5AE-6090-F / 427-1965-67 427 Medium Riser Heads  (Date 7A5)
C5AE-C  427 Crank 427 High performance Forged Lemans (Date 2-67)
Rods - C6AE-E - Forged Lemans
2x4 Intake - C7AE 8525A Medium Riser
C5AF-9510-BC/Holley list 3301 - 1965-67 427 Ford 427 medium riser holley. Secondary card from 2 x 4V 
710 cfm each. No choke. Matching carb C5AF-9510-BD Holley list 3300 427 medium riser holley. Primary carb from 2 x 4V 
Dyno:
Max Torque 473 @ 4800RPM
Max HP 462 @ 6000 RPM
93 Octane Gas with 10:1 Compression

CAM:
Ford 352-428 Solid
Grind FE 272/282 -1OF
Duration @ 50   238  -   248
Separation   110
Duration @20  `272 - 282

I have had recommendations from 2200-2500 stall converter to 2500-3000 stall converter.

I believe that the usual 12" converter will not work, but possibly an 11"  or even 10".  I am concerned about the heat of running a 10" converter.

Anyone have any experience or recommendations using the smaller converter?
I talked with Performance Automatic, Broader and Summit.

Thank you!

Ron

1)  Do all 67's have the 1/4" pressure point fitting on the control valve or did some have the 5/16th?   Mine has the 5/16th with a date code of 70, so it must have been swapped out at one point in time.

2)  Return line from the power steering pump to the p/s cooler.  What does this line look like and how is it routed?  Is it a rubber line completely with crimp clamps on both ends?

Thanks!

Ron

Greetings All,

I am sure that this has been discussed numerous time before, but what was the standard axle in a 67 GT 500 Auto?  I have a 31 spline in my Jan built GT 500 with auto trans.

I just added a Yukon posi, so looking forward to having it all back together for a test drive!

Thanks

Ron

I media blasted my old splash shields, but don't remember which way the staples go in.  Is his correct?
Ron

Hey Guys,

Does anyone know if Dennis Flolo is a member of SAAC?  He has a beautiful 67 GT 500 at the Houston Auto Show.  I would like to make contact with him
as our cars are very similar (Nightmist Blue, Auto and FE427) but his has A/C that gorgeous Parchment Interior.

Thanks

Ron