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Ford GT / Re: Found GT40 designs
« on: June 26, 2020, 08:53:57 PM »
What engine is in picture #2 ^^^^^

 Ford Cardinal 1,500 cc 60 degree V4 out of Cologne. The Cardinal was killed prior to production, intended for NA as a VW Beatle competitor.

jim p

Ford GT / Re: Found GT40 designs
« on: June 26, 2020, 05:46:59 PM »
photos of the DNA breadcrumb trail....

1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: original hood pics
« on: June 26, 2020, 05:30:25 PM »
Ok, a little off topic as this is related to just the scoop not the complete hood,
but I just wanted to share.

When I purchased 6S283 in 1977, I found a previous owner must have had a collision that damaged the hood
( I didn't dig deeply back then but don't recall evidence of engine compartment metal being replaced ), but
the hood was a used red mustang hood that they cut out a hole in the center and bonded on the scoop from the original hood
and painted white with the Le Mans stripes!

I later purchased an used all fiberglass hood, black with gold stripes, and that was on it when I sold the car :( !

So now all I have is garage wall art !

It reminds me of what once was …..

jim p

The Lounge / Re: Pictures of Carroll Shelby
« on: June 10, 2020, 10:13:34 PM »

Some of the legendary drivers of the Maserati team at Sebring 1957.
On the left is Stirling Moss, leaning against the car and with the white cap is Juan Manuel Fangio. Fangio has his arm around his co-driver, the great French driving ace Jean Behra.
On the bottom right is Carroll Shelby.
Fangio and Behra came in first in their 4.5 Maserati. Moss came second in his 3-liter Maserati and poor Shelby got disqualified because of a major mistake on the part of the Maserati pit crew.
It is ironic that Fangio felt compelled to wear a Sebring metal badge that identified him as a "driver."

photo by Bernard Cahier courtesy of Maserati.

Looking at the KRANKY list Sept 21st & 22nd 1963 was a 2 event weekend

on Saturday Holbert took 1st o/a in GT driving CSX2137
on Sunday Miles took 1st o/a & 1st O 2L driving CSX2129
#33 was Bob Johnson in CSX2026 DNF on Saturday

so Tom's photo with Ken & Carroll would be the victory lap on Sunday.

I wonder if this was another weekend where the drivers flipped a coin to choose who would take the flag in each race ???

jim p

The Lounge / Re: Ford Experimental -Concept Vehicles
« on: May 19, 2020, 01:53:23 PM »
I was working at a Ford dealer in Dearborn back in mid-1970's and I recall seeing the blue car showing up in a service bay one day.
There was a lot of the dealer personnel gathered around it so I went over for a look.

I can't say if it was still a FoMoCo owned vehicle at the time but it was very low mileage and very new appearing as I recall.
I remember thinking who would want a white interior in a muscle car, "black is the only way to go"!
And of course a 1970 mustang with a 429 385 family engine was a unicorn even then.

We saw a lot of experimental cars come in since we were just down Outer Dr. from the Engineering complex.
My brother ( SAAC member ) would come by with some of these, like a 76 F-100 with a 460 4v that ran like a raped ape!

The 1981 Escort test mule was a Pinto with the 2.0L Lima OHC with the Escort front transaxle, that would also move quickly.

The aborted Escort EXP 1.6L turbo that an exec tried to power shift on Southfield Rd in Allen Pk and the car torque shifted a lane+ so scared him they went back and killed that little rocket!
But this was all during the emissions / crash worthiness era where fuel economy and small cars ruled to compete with Japanese imports.

Ah the old skool days !

jim p

When I need to save and document information published on a web page, I have found it's useful to print the page to a PDF.

You loose some but the essential text and photos are archived.

I don't know what copyrights are involved but for personal reference it's a tool

jim p

Shelby American Racing / 66 Le Mans another piece of the story ?
« on: April 27, 2020, 10:51:02 PM »
I had not heard or read of this account before.

source: Twice Around the Clock: The Yanks at Le Mans

According to Charlie Agagiou interview:

When Ken Miles brought his car in for service and a driver change, he was informed of the plan. Miles was crushed. And furious.
To him, this was revenge by those at Ford who didn’t like him. Busy with the car, Charlie Agapiou heard none of this, but when he looked up, immediately he knew something was wrong.

“Ken said, ‘They don’t want me to win the race. They want the Amon/McLaren car to win.’ I said, ‘Ken, what are you talking about? You’re miles ahead of them, how are they going to win the race?’ You gonna’ stop on the back chute or what? That’s impossible.’

But Miles was told the dead heat finish had been okayed by the ACO. To refuse to cooperate would mean the end of his career with Ford, so grudgingly, he agreed to go along with it, perhaps even believing that he had one or more laps in hand and that it would be for appearances only. But had that lap advantage disappeared with a suspect brake disc change?

Earlier, Hulme had brought their car in for scheduled brake change. Multiple sets of bedded-in rotors (discs) were prepared in advance by the crew chiefs of each car.

The new rotors were fitted and Miles took off for his stint, still laps ahead of McLaren. But then, trouble. Miles brought the Mk II back in the next lap. Agapiou was there.

“Ken said, ‘I’ve got a vibration, a brake vibration.’ I said, ‘It can’t be a brake vibration, it must be the tires.’ He said, ‘I’m telling you, it’s a brake vibration.’”

Knowing the rotors had been bedded in, Agapiou threw on a new set of wheels and tires and Miles was sent out.
Only then did Agapiou learn that the rotors he’d been given were not in fact the ones bedded in for Miles’ car. Those had been taken by the McLaren crew.
There was no time to find out why. Miles was on his way in again, and another set of rotors had to be fitted. Agapiou was livid.

“We ended up having to get two more rotors and hoping they were okay. In that time, Ken lost close to two laps, I think.
All this poncin’ around, because McLaren’s crew chief, who was a good friend of mine, didn’t take the time to bed rotors in and put them aside for when his car came in.
And McLaren ended up with our rotors.”

Thinking about it later, Agapiou suspected foul play.

“Ken was close to four laps ahead of McLaren. So there was no way he could have just slowed down for four laps. It would have looked stupid with the bloody press.
I don’t know what went on, but he lost a ton of time with those two stops.”

In any case, the fix was now on near the end of the race. McLaren and Miles were told they’d finish in a dead heat and that both would be declared winner. What no one was told was that the ACO changed their mind – and notified Ford officials – that there could be no dead heat.

As instructed, Ken Miles slowed to let McLaren catch up on the final lap, and for Hutcherson in his and Bucknum’s third Mk II.

As they approached the actual timing line, short of where the flag is thrown, Miles and McLaren seemed to be nearly side by side before Miles inexplicably checked up, allowing McLaren to surge ahead – then Miles pulled forward again.

Charlie Agapiou, too, remained adamant that his friend was robbed, and pulled no punches as to where the blame lay.

“He did exactly what he was told, and at the end, he slowed down on the back chute and all over the place to let McLaren unlap himself. He followed his orders and then he got f***ed. That’s what happened.”

just adding to the various versions of the events, however this adds some more color and explanation to how McLaren & Amon could have erased the multiple lap lead Miles had built.

jim p

GT40 - Original/Mk V / Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
« on: April 23, 2020, 05:29:54 PM »
Is This GT/108 or GT/109 ? Info with the photo said Riverside ? ?


IMHO, I can't speak to the location, others here are more authoritative if it's Riverside,
although I was thinking it is,
The white CSX2xxx and GT350 in the background suggests to me it may be the SAI product press day??

I seem to recall GT/108 was used for Sports Car Graphic Oct 1965 issue "Track Test" by Jerry Titus.
Were these the same incident or 2 different events???

jim p

The Lounge / Re: The 2020 GT500 has no SHELBY name tags on body
« on: March 31, 2020, 12:50:14 PM »
True about the removal of key locks.  The new GT350 doesn't have visible ones either.  To access the driver door when the power is out requires the special removal of the back o the door handle to expose the key hole. Does the removal of thelock improve the mileage ratings or something? 8)

+ GM products

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Mustangs Unlimited
« on: March 02, 2020, 01:37:59 PM »
I first started dealing with the T-bird parts store in Livonia Mi  4 decades ago that was then bought out by NPD. I have been fortunate that NPD is LOCAL to me .............

  I was the 1st employee of Gary Bassett ( owner of T-Bird Parts Store ), and talked him into getting into the Mustang market as we saw the 2 seater T-Bird market had matured into slow growth.

Gary had been a buyer at Ford and still had connections with folks in the supply chain.
Thru George Shirf (sp) we found the shop in Plymouth that still had Ford's 67 shelby mold tooling and other such finds.
It was an exciting time in the emerging business, and looking back many missed opportunities !

jim p

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: February 27, 2020, 12:49:39 PM »

 is it possible that could be at Kar Kraft, where the car was built ? I'll look in my Kar Kraft book maybe there are better
 shots of the building.

 the guy in the pic was familiar ! that I'm pretty sure is Ron Fournier, worked on the J-Car at Kar Kraft,


I just loved the article that revealed you have to pull the entire engine/trans to replace the drive belt!
"well, ya know it's no different than some Ferrari's that require engine removal for scheduled maintenance".......

everyone has their preference, and will drink the Kool-Aid because it's an emotional decision..

they will have the "new thing" that other's don't,  or they feel kooler because.....

I don't expect others to validate my choices by publicizing, to see what responses are generated



GT40 - Original/Mk V / Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
« on: February 20, 2020, 12:29:11 PM »
These photos of #22 from VIR 1966, P1049 driven by Dick Thompson appears to be the same car.
however the VIR photos show fender mounted mirrors and the class is now "CM" vs the previous photo it looks like simply class "C"
perhaps the 1st photo is earlier event?

that's the best info I have.

jim p

CSX 2000 Series / Re: Lets get some cobra pictures back up!
« on: February 14, 2020, 04:38:32 PM »

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