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SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Mustangs Unlimited
« on: March 02, 2020, 01:37:59 PM »
I first started dealing with the T-bird parts store in Livonia Mi  4 decades ago that was then bought out by NPD. I have been fortunate that NPD is LOCAL to me .............

  I was the 1st employee of Gary Bassett ( owner of T-Bird Parts Store ), and talked him into getting into the Mustang market as we saw the 2 seater T-Bird market had matured into slow growth.

Gary had been a buyer at Ford and still had connections with folks in the supply chain.
Thru George Shirf (sp) we found the shop in Plymouth that still had Ford's 67 shelby mold tooling and other such finds.
It was an exciting time in the emerging business, and looking back many missed opportunities !

jim p

SAAC Forum Discussion Area / Re: Random car pictures
« on: February 27, 2020, 12:49:39 PM »

 is it possible that could be at Kar Kraft, where the car was built ? I'll look in my Kar Kraft book maybe there are better
 shots of the building.

 the guy in the pic was familiar ! that I'm pretty sure is Ron Fournier, worked on the J-Car at Kar Kraft,


I just loved the article that revealed you have to pull the entire engine/trans to replace the drive belt!
"well, ya know it's no different than some Ferrari's that require engine removal for scheduled maintenance".......

everyone has their preference, and will drink the Kool-Aid because it's an emotional decision..

they will have the "new thing" that other's don't,  or they feel kooler because.....

I don't expect others to validate my choices by publicizing, to see what responses are generated



GT40 - Original/Mk V / Re: Random Ford GT-original & Mk. V photos
« on: February 20, 2020, 12:29:11 PM »
These photos of #22 from VIR 1966, P1049 driven by Dick Thompson appears to be the same car.
however the VIR photos show fender mounted mirrors and the class is now "CM" vs the previous photo it looks like simply class "C"
perhaps the 1st photo is earlier event?

that's the best info I have.

jim p

CSX 2000 Series / Re: Lets get some cobra pictures back up!
« on: February 14, 2020, 04:38:32 PM »

CSX 2000 Series / Re: Lets get some cobra pictures back up!
« on: February 14, 2020, 04:37:08 PM »
Ok, so I snatched these from FB, so I can't attribute the author/owner  :-\

All appear to be from 1965 Road America 500 June 1965.
CSX2430, CSX2494, CSX2558, CSX3009 & P1010

jim p

1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: VIN on Trans in 66?
« on: February 14, 2020, 11:59:01 AM »
Hi Randy,
IIRC, the cast iron T10M-1's were also not covered in the Ford MPC nor any T10 in the Ford Maintenance manuals.  Any reason why?
I will have to check the MPC if the aluminum version is in the Ford MPC, but I will bet not.

Just for my own clarification, there was a RPO BW T10(H??) used in 65 & 66, just std iron case and gear ratios.
This is the only BW 4sp listed in the MPC for Galaxy, Fairlane, Mustang & Falcon.

Did all GT350 T10's come with high nickel Sebring gear sets?

thank you

jim p

The Lounge / Re: Chris Amon's take on Ford v. Ferrari outcome
« on: February 13, 2020, 01:55:24 PM »
I found the Amon "version" interesting in that he said they were down laps due to the Firestone tires chunking, then later said they were ahead of Miles and had to let Ken catch up.
But I also thought he claims Ken wasn't obeying orders to keep to the assigned lap times, so "they" ( Bruce & Chris ) should be allowed to win since they obeyed "team orders".

His whole narrative I found was inconsistent, and if Ken wasn't ahead and needed to be ordered to slow to allow Bruce & Chris to catch up, then why would Carroll for all the years following, say Ken was screwed and Carroll regretted how it turned out? Also Charlie Agapiou's telling supports that Chris & Bruce were behind and were allowed to catch up.

I'm not suggesting Chris was intentionally trying to deliver a untruth, I just believe over the 50 years memory can be altered by subsequent input.

Leo Levine's book "The Dust and the Glory" was based in interviews he had with most of the principals in 1967, 68, so it would have captured recollections closer to the events and less influenced by passage of time, and as such I would think should be weighed heavily when considering where the truth lies between the various versions of the events.

Preston Learner's book "Ford GT: How Ford Silenced the Critics, Humbled Ferrari and Conquered Le Mans" did a fairly even attempt to present the differing versions and leave the conclusions to the reader.

just for anyone's consideration, my humble opinion

jim p

I didn't see this listed in any prior posting, interesting to watch removing all the "stuff" piled on top of the car,


jim p

Concours Talk / Re: Suggestions for Hipo Distributor refurbishment?
« on: January 29, 2020, 01:38:13 PM »
Not to highjack the thread.... but

a couple of years ago a dozen or so guys ( split between pilots / car guys ) toured one of the Roush shops in Livonia,
the front half of the building is Roush Aviation that rebuilds Merlin / Allison V12's for Spitfire / P51; 1650 CID, 1650 HP, 1650 Torque I believe they said
when they run one in on the test stand, everything on the shelves of the adjacent building's owners office fall off, they were looking for a new dyno location!

anyway I diverge, when they rebuild the heads some of the valve guides are not usable and they are dropped into a 5 gal bucket.
I asked what did they do with them? Oh we turn them down to be used in our distributor rebuild cell,

Later when we toured the back half of the building, the custom engine shop had many customer engines being rebuilt, including;
west coast vintage race cobra 260 engine, 427 SOHC, B302, B429, Chrysler vintage hemi, some bowtie pieces

off on the side was a small room with a Sun distributor machine with a couple of quart jars full of various weight springs, 100's of them
the tech said "oh yah we can rebuild your HiPo distributor, we use the valve guide bushings to replace worn distributor shaft bushings.
I didn't ask what the material was but they looked like bronze or sintered material tubes

there were also some prototype GT500 engines being built for Ford as well as some Chrysler V6 development engines being built.

jim p

1965 GT350/R-Model / Re: 1965 VINís
« on: January 28, 2020, 12:43:09 PM »
I'll ask about this story I've heard ........... He says that this car was destined for SA because its VIN is in a block of VINs of others that went to SA.
But someone needed a yellow car for a special order so this one was pulled and finished. I'm thinking he got this story from the PO. How could that ever be proven?

IMHO not likely since the SAI destined cars were scheduled to be built to DSO add & delete spec, assembly plants don't function well to deviation from planning schedules.
cars were built in whatever batches could accommodate unique materials as they arrived at San Jose. i.e. C5ZX- parts, axles with 10x2.5" brakes, BW T10 trans, brake prop valve, etc

jim p

GT40 - Original/Mk V / Re: Original Ford GT - Transporters
« on: January 27, 2020, 01:34:57 PM »
I saw these on a FB post, and would the "TNT San Juan" be considered a "transporter"?

jim p

GT40 - Original/Mk V / Re: How many
« on: January 24, 2020, 08:39:12 AM »
Just to note, the placard in XGT-3 at the event mistakenly identified the car as P1047, the Gurney LM car, because XGT-3 had been liveried to copy P1047.
The placard related the race history of P1047 as I believe Don E. thought that was the car he had.

Notice the white label in the open door jam with the blue patch surrounding?
Isn't this where they attached the tach calibration chart? and would the blue be the original tub paint from the build at SAI?
The photos/video of the restoration of P1047 I seem to recall showed many of the hidden tub surfaces also painted in the same "corporate"? blue?

an observation, not sure it's a fact, I would like to hear other's thoughts!!

This was also the car used in the Motorcraft logo for many years!

jim p

GT40 - Original/Mk V / Re: How many
« on: January 23, 2020, 07:46:49 PM »
Would you happen to know if XGT-3 was intended to be a third car entered for Alan Mann, as race #10?
I also wonder if MKII 1012, the back up car was entered as #9 for any of the teams, should they have needed it.


I am certainly no expert, there are surely others in this community that have more detailed knowledge.
XGT-3 was not completed prior to LM "66", and remained at SAI until completed and used for the "victory caravan tour".
P1012 had been beached by Ken Miles in a sand bank during the April trials, sent to Alan Mann for repairs and raced at Spa as #4, "to familiarize AM's drivers with the MK-II".
remember AM brought AMGT-1 & AMGT-2 to the trials as a last pitch to FoMoCo to continue running the MK-I (lightweight) 289 cars.
P1012 is noted as present at LM as a spare but not used.

I had the unique opportunity to see & photograph XTG-3 as purchased from Ford by Don Eichstaedt ( of Kar Kraft fame, wearing a red jacket below ) prior to any restoration back in 1977 at a SAAC MCR event at the Packard Proving Grounds banked test track. Jeff Burgy was a judge for the car show and shared some of his knowledge.
I just recall when started and sitting still, it was evident the cam profile and tune didn't like anything under 2,000 RPM, but when they blipt'd the throttle that 7 liters roared !
Don took a rather leisurely lap around the oval, never really stood on it,  I was disappointed!
The car that really ran the banks that day was Larry Anderson in CSX2550, ( shown below )he had side pipes with cutouts, un-capped and letting that small block loose, the exhaust song going around the track at a very brisk pace was just a glimpse of what tracks around the country sounded like in 63,64,& 65!!!
I'm holding the MCR placard.

jim p

GT40 - Original/Mk V / Re: How many
« on: January 23, 2020, 12:48:26 PM »
Not to argue, but the 1967 MK-IV cars are NOT GT40's, they are part of the Ford GT family of vehicles.
why? they were not built in the UK, not by FAV, not built on the steel tub.

MK-II - P1046, P1015, P1016, P1047, P1032, P1031, XGT2, XGT1 = 8
MK-I - P1017, P1040, P1007, P1038, P1001 & P1029 = 6

MK-IV - J5, J6, J7, J8 = 4
MK-IIB - P1031, P1015, P1047 = 3
MK-I  - P1020, P1042, P1026 = 3
GT350R - 5R539  = 1


jim p

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