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Quote from: 65fastbackk on April 16, 2019, 06:22:01 PM
Thanks Cory,

So did the 66 gt350's get either one or just the skinny ones.  Could these be found on 65/66 ford automatic trucks?

Hi 65Fastbackk,

It was only the 65-66 Ford F100 and F250 trucks with the straight 6 300CID engine with Cruise-O-Matic C4 that got the "C" servo.  The same trucks with the 240 CID did not.  The Ford MPC shows only one set of service part numbers for both years, piston C5AZ-7D002-C and cover C5AZ-7D027-B, not to be confused with the casting numbers on the parts.  They are not the same.  Below is the images out of the Ford MPC for truck.

Remember in the both types of part number casting and service part:

Third character "A" = Galaxie and "T" = Truck
Forth character "Z"= Service part and "P" = Auto Transmission

The original casting shows "TP" for Truck Auto Transmission
The service part number "AZ" for Galaxie Service part.

https://classicmustang.com/decoding-part-numbers/

If the Ford service parts were ordered, you could get either the C5 or C6 casting part numbers.  They were considered functional identical.

Mr. TLea captureed your answer very well in reply No. 6 for your question "So did the 66 gt350's get either one or just the skinny ones?"

Enjoy

Cory

Quote from: Brant on April 16, 2019, 09:12:25 AM
The 3259 Holley carb dates seem to vary quite a bit. They are not as "precise" as other dates, like say a radiator, glass, or other parts that were installed on the car on the assembly line at Ford.

So, I would say that pretty much any date before the arrival at SA would be good. As suggested, 581 would be a good choice.

Hi Brant,  Would the 3259 carb been installed at the Cleveland engine plant, thus the carb date should proceed the engine assembly date.  Or was the carb installed at the San Jose plant and the carb date should proceed the San Jose build.  Or the Ford carb was installed to drive the cars onto the transport to SAI and the 3259 carbs were then swapped at Shelby American, then the carb date would proceed the SA dates.  Where the engines accessorized with fuel pump, fan blade and carb, etc. at San Jose?

Thanks

Cory

The difference between the fat "C" and skinny "C" includes a part number difference C5 VS. C6.  My guess is it might have been a vendor change near the end of 1965.  Also, IIRC, the flange on the skinny C cover is slightly thicker, possible to stiffen, prevent warping and improved the sealing against the main tranny housing.  Functionally they should be identical.

The "C" servo piston has a 3.13 inch diameter over the "A" servo with 2.84 inch diameter.  The larger piston can hold a slightly higher force at the same pressure within the tranny.  It exerts more holding force on the intermediate band, delaying the automatic shift.  It was original designed for the Ford truck, more holding power in a lower gear with a load.

Cory

Quote from: JD on April 15, 2019, 12:59:33 PM
I've always used 85 ft/lb with a torque wrench in the proper sequence and then go back and check them after a few (25 -50) miles, never had a problem.

What is crazy about that value, imagine back in the day trying get a wheel off with the stock lug wrench.  I expect the 10 spoke lug wrench would bend before breaking the lug nuts lose.  I carry a none OEM tool with extension.

Cory

Hi Randy,

Do you know the engine assembly date for your GT350?  That couold be a better starting reference point to compare to other cars.

Cory

Hi 557,

Here is the JUMBLE puzzle you mentioned.  My wife found and solved relativity quick.  I am not sure I understand your "lawsuit" comment.  IMHO, I see no infringement, smell or no smell.

The deodorant, held by the bald character in the comic, looks like a roll on, not a spray.

This might have qualified for an "EAGLE EYE".

Thanks for finding

Cory

Hi Karl,

No luck at the Portland Swamp Meet for a early COBRA intake, but I did spot two later versions.

I am looking for you.  There is the Monroe (Greater Seattle Swap Meet) coming up in May in my next chance to look.  This swap meet has been fruitful in the past.  Two years ago I picked up an original COBRA oil pan with a little damage for $75.   

Cory

Hi Charles,

I believe I have a 11-64 or 12-64 front KONI shock rebuilt with original style seals, currently on my car.  I will trade you for a 4-65 front KONI in the same condition.  If interested, I will confirm the date this weekend.  Maybe there is a three way trade out there.

Cory

Hi Rey,

My understanding is that Ford bought around 500 of the rental cars back, part of the original contract.  Then Ford dealers were then to sell.  I heard the  Ford dealers had contest of who could sell the most.  The other 500 or so then I would assume Hertz had to sell.  Your story sounds very familiar with a lot full of GT350H's for sale.  If you were there early, you got to cherry pick the nicest car.  I have also heard that many of the cars were also in not the nice of shape.  They were beat on, thus why in the early days the Hertz cars were not in big demand.   Some even saw paint color changes to hide the fact they were an ex-rental car.  What did you sell you car for?  I am also hearing from long time current owners they only paid around $1000 for their GT350 or GT350H.

Lets hear those stories.

Thanks for sharing

Cory

Hi Terry,

I would not expect to get a lot of coin for your tranny.  The links below show several tranny's that have sold recently, from rebuilt at $800 to used $180.  I would think someone on the site would be interested, but shipping costs could make it too expensive.   I potential buyer might rather source closer to home to keep the cost down.  I'd guess your tranny is in the $250 range.  Hang onto to it.  Someone could use, maybe advertise locally.

Best of luck.

Cory

Used for $200

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1968-1969-1970-1971-Ford-Mustang-Cougar-Torino-C4-Transmission-/142904124998?hash=item2145bfe646%3Ag%3AGL8AAOSwofdbcXNt&vxp=mtr&nma=true&si=o3a0q%252BGGIP845MLSDFjebkH5PdU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Rebuilt for $800

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Cougar-Mustang-C4-transmission-rebuilt-complete-/333127290409?hash=item4d8fef0e29%3Ag%3Aj8gAAOSwEKxcV4OK&nma=true&si=o3a0q%252BGGIP845MLSDFjebkH5PdU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Used for an offer under $350

https://www.ebay.com/itm/C4-Transmission-1967-to-69-selecto-shift-Ford-Mustang-289-302-/183612137040?hash=item2ac022de50%3Ag%3AqiAAAOSwcnZcKP8l&nma=true&si=o3a0q%252BGGIP845MLSDFjebkH5PdU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Earlier C4 used for $180:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/C4-transmission-from1965-1966-Mustang-289-/264259170445?hash=item3d8712f08d%3Ag%3AM4sAAOSwZrtcnTMg&nma=true&si=o3a0q%252BGGIP845MLSDFjebkH5PdU%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

There are three printings of The COBRA Story hard back,  plus a hard back titled Carroll Shelby's The COBRA Story (not sure how many printings) and a paper back The Carroll Shelby Story.

Cory

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Quote from: Rocket on March 28, 2019, 11:57:49 AM
Why is there no list of owners, and previous owners, like in the last '65 thru '67 registry. That was very nice to have when looking up who owned each car over the last 50 years. Maybe it can be included in the future ones. Ron

In the new Registry, literally the entire last half of the book is exactly what you're asking about; each car's detailed history with previous owners listed. Obviously some cars don't have complete info listed if the Registrars never received updates but most cars have some details.

Rocket is talking about an index of owners with corresponding VIN numbers after all of the registry entry's. You can look up by owner's last name and then see which car/cars are tied to their name, then you can flip to the entry and read the details.    The latest 1968-1970 book didn't have it either.  I imagine it is a much larger task to undertake.  Most likely very time consuming.  I think the previous book spoiled us with that part....    No complaints here, the book is an awesome reference source that not a lot of other car marque's have in our hobby.

I'm disappointed to hear the "Shelby Owners Index" has gone away.


I can't tell you how many times I've used the list of owners to help identify a car written in a story online, in a magazine, or at auction.
You can then follow up by reading the footnotes for more info on that car.

It's such a beneficial resource that will be greatly missed!

+1.  I find the owner index very helpful.  Maybe the registrars can include in the subsequent registries, i.e. 1966+.

Cory

Hi Dave,

Is that image when Gary Lewis owned 6S1757?

Cory

Chuck Cantwell told me he was the driver in that shot with him and the GT350 going airborne.  He must have been watching Ken Miles at Green Valley during 5R002's first race and all the air he was getting on every lap. These cars can really fly.

Thanks for sharing.

Cory

Quote from: Bob Gaines on March 14, 2019, 10:16:30 PM

Quote from: 6s1640 on March 14, 2019, 06:48:40 PM
Hi John,

The leading opinion on the internet seems to be a Galaxie radiator, but I have heard that the R-model radiator was a hybrid of a two Galaxie radiators.  Possible a  combinations of upper and lower tanks to best fit in the car and interface with the engine.  The car also will need to have the core support cut open to match the radiator for best cooling.

We will see what other have to say.

Cory

I believe to begin with that they used a Radiator from a FE Galaxie which resulted in complicated radiator hose routing as can be seen in some vintage photos. Later it was found that a smallblock radiator from the same car could be used without the associated problems of the FR version . They still had to beat down the radiator neck to clear the hood regardless.

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the clarification.  Now I can see where the two radiators came from, both from a Galaxie, but used one after the other, not as a hybrid of them together.

Take care

Cory