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There has been a lot of confusing discussion in this thread about the second location of Hi-Performance Motors, Inc. in El Segundo. George Watters and I invested a lot of time/effort in this very subject about five years ago. As we all know now, the 60-70 pages of the GEORGE WATTERS COLLECTION was tragically lost during the meltdown of Forum 1.0. All of the current questions, speculation and search for information should still be easily accessible to all, which was our intention for doing it in the first place, but alas, it no longer exists.

So George & I discussed and agreed upon the need for this particular subject to be addressed. Again...

The following photos and captions will show that HPM 2 was approx. 1/2 mile from LAX:


This photo shows an aerial view of the relationship of the two hangars at LAX and HPM 2 on Sepulveda Blvd. - approx. 1/2 mile:



This photo shows the most likely 'back route' the cars were driven between LAX and the dealership:



Here you can see the street names and an outline of the dealership to approx. scale using original photographs:



And last is this incredible photograph from inside the showroom that shows the building across the intersection that still exists today:

I forgot to add this - the REAL beauty of the installation of this shifter is that the shifter boot does not have to be removed to install it! Which means the sill plate, the kick panel, the seat itself, and the carpet doesn't have to be removed to get at the boot retention bolts.

You just unscrew the shifter knob, the knob base, the spring, and the reverse lock out bar. Now you only have the round rod of the shifter handle to slip up thru the hole of the boot.

The original Ford shifter handle & boot are a one-piece unit that requires half the interior to be removed to remove/install it - not fun.

For Sale is my custom Hurst Competition Plus/Original Ford handle shifter. It's ready to bolt in as-is to any 1965-66 GT350 with a Borg Warner T-10 and is completely undetectable when installed. The height of the handle, the angle of it, everything - is EXACT and works perfectly. I made a fixture to have an original factory Ford shifter/handle assy aligned with this brand new Competition Plus shifter body to duplicate the height and angle of the original Ford handle. After that was achieved, it was welded, ground and polished, and the handle was rechromed. It even retains the original spring loaded action of the reverse lock out bar, even though it is not needed to engage reverse in this case. 

This shifter (3913180) will fit any Mustang from 1965-69. The Borg Warner T-10 and the Toploader both use this same shifter body. Again, if this is going into a Shelby/Mustang with a BW T-10, the entire assembly is ready to bolt in as-is. If going into a Shelby/Mustang with a Toploader, you will need a 3735587 linkage kit.

Also shown here is the original installation instruction sheet for the Borg Warner T-10.

This model shifter body is the desirable early type with the welded handle assembly. The next generation had handles that bolted into the wedge assembly that goes into the shifter, and are not the same solid feel of the first generation welded shifters.

Reproduction Ford handles run about $175 (this one is a genuine Ford handle) and also included is a perfect boot, knob, all hardware and back up switch ancillaries and wiring (if needed). $695 - and I'll split the shipping with you.

Even better - I will deliver this shifter to SAAC 44 (my cell is 920-819-1609) or I can also take PayPal or a postal money order. Please PM, email, text or call with any questions or for any more detail photos.

Thanks,
Kieth

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Home - 920-498-8755 (start to leave a message so I'll pick up)
 

The Ford Master Parts Catalog attachment that I posted is only a small portion of the page of coil springs listed. I see a couple more that are shown with a somewhat thicker wire diameter. Bob would know the part number for the GT500, but I don't.

If he will share the part number, I can share the specs of it.

This is a pair of NOS 1967 Mustang coil springs for sale, part number C7ZZ-5310-AB. They have never been installed and are "Frt. Spring Code No. 4L" in the Ford Master Parts Catalog. 4L springs were used on Mustangs with the 390 engine and several different option packages. They have 1 Gold and 1 Tan stripe. I also have both of the original paper tags. $300.

PM me or contact me via email for any other details, photos, or info. I can deliver them to SAAC 44 next week. I can also accept PayPal (or money order, etc.) after I calculate the shipping amount.

Thanks,
Kieth
p51ace@sbcglobal.net

mygt350,

I made a video of an original 1966 GT350's turn signal cancelling cam action during my OTC steering wheel project on my 1966 Hertz car.

PM me your email address and I'll send you the link. I think you'll find it very interesting.

Kieth

Quote from: 6s1802 on June 28, 2019, 12:41:28 AM
Why do the french get the registry first? They screwed us out of a Ford GT win.

Why are the streets of Paris lined with trees?


(Oops, I can't believe I just said that. PM me for the answer if interested and if you are not politically correct... like me)

Excellent work Rich, mystery solved.

That 1964 Pete Lyons photo with a rare color rear view of 2287 was a real treat for me to stumble across recently. It was in a 2012 Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion program that I borrowed from Jim Cowles.

Thanks for the Detective work!

Kieth

Phillip,

Nice job removing "the gutter" from this Cougar illustration - Well Done! I too know how much work that can be, especially when there's an actual gap that may be left between the pages to make the proportion of the image itself correct. "Gutter" is a new term to me, but I like it a lot and (with your permission) that is what it will be known as to me in the future!

Quote from: propayne on May 09, 2019, 11:36:48 AM
Ewww, this thread is right up my alley.

In fact, the first two posts are scans that I made from my collection. The first being a Ford Annual Report and the second from an issue of Sports Car Graphic. That Cougar illustration is a two page spread and it took me awhile to remove the "gutter" in Photoshop.

- Phillip

The 1968 AMT Shelby model box art that is posted in this thread is actually a scan that I did from my rather "weathered" original box, and which I had posted on Forum 1.0 back in the day. Check out what it looked like when I first scanned it. It didn't have a gutter, but it wasn't very pretty after the initial scan:



But after a lot of cleaning of the "dirt" and removing of the box wrinkles, it turned out pretty nice:



Kieth

Is CSX2287 on the gas or on the brakes here?

Anthony Dilabio (aka Road Reptile) of '67 Shelby fame recently sent me a rare copy of this August 1967 magazine that has a feature on the SUPER SNAKE. He was wondering if the car still had those "unique headers with Grand Prix type collectors" when I saw it at MCACN in November 2018. Well, the hood was never open when I saw it in Chicago, and because this article is the first I ever learned of those unique headers, I had no idea to look underneath for them at the time. If you recall, I had posted on here prior about being all alone with the car in a warehouse after the show (with its keys still in the ignition) and I could have used my phone flashlight to check for them at the time - if I had known about them.

So that opportunity was missed, but maybe someone here knows if the car still has these cool, hand-built headers? The recent new owner surely would know!

In any case, enjoy these photos and article that many of us would not have otherwise been able to see. I had to downscale the images 50% to post them here, so the resolution is not very good, but I have them at full scale on my computer and can email them to whoever asks for them.

Enjoy - and Thanks Anthony!

Kieth 

red66,

My buddy Denny (6S1568) had a great idea about how to try to narrow down the dates of our cars (I have 6S1615) and that has influenced me to copy his efforts. We now watch for the details of Mustangs for sale, and often the Ford VIN plate is included in the photos. If it's a San Jose car, that gives you a definite parameter to work with, and recently we have found two cars that are are close enough to our Ford VIN's that we feel we can now prove the date that our Hertz cars were built.

I've always felt slighted that 65-66 owners have not had the information available to them that 67 & up owners take for granted. But with his new idea I'm now thrilled to have some mechanism by which we can try to catch up to the owners of newer cars than ours!

Kieth

Jim,

Here is the Dave Friedman caption that goes along with the photo you posted:



Kieth

This headline of Don Prudhomme's article in the May 2019 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines included his relationship with Roland Leong of "The Hawaiian" funny car empire and about 1965 being "The Year of The Snake" in the Chinese calendar.

Everyone reading this now will see the same incredible irony that I do, as that was also the year that another team of snakes won the WORLD MANUFACTURER's CHAMPIONSHIP:

Jim,

Outstanding effort and contribution to a fellow member's request - you went above and beyond!

Your drafting skills apparently come so easy to you that you spent approx. an hour on the photos, write up, AND the blueprint?? Incredible.

Very impressive. Seeing a guy do something like that for someone else is why this Forum is such an amazing asset to us all.

I'm looking for the "clinking beer mugs" emoji again!!

Kieth

Quote from: Jim Herrud on April 10, 2019, 02:28:18 AM