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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Engine Temp Issues
« on: July 16, 2019, 12:17:40 AM »
I also agree with Doug and others who have said the stock Mustang gauge is not very accurate. Especially as old as they are now, and the fact that there aren't any actual numbers on the gauge faces.   Oh no, it's on "P" again.

Kind of like some women I've known in my life who've said something like "its broiling hot outside" whether the ambient temperature is 85 or 95 or 105 or...


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Florida Region SAAC / Re: Movie, Ford vs Ferrari
« on: July 15, 2019, 07:37:12 PM »
this just in;

not edsell, the gentleman pictured is hedley lamarr the famous star from blazing saddles...another picture that should have recieved the academy award...

still 124 days from opening !
I thought that was Hedy Lamarr? :D

the lovely hedly lamarr (actress) sued mel brooks for using  the name hedley lamarr ( played by harvey  korman) in the movie blazing saddles

she/they settled out of court

They should've cast her in the movie as a character named Hardvey Korman.

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Florida Region SAAC / Re: Movie, Ford vs Ferrari
« on: July 15, 2019, 07:35:36 PM »
A side note to this thread - at the SAAC 44 banquet the gathered were asked to raise their hand if they thought Matt Damon was a good choice to play Carroll Shelby in the upcoming movie - no one raised their hand, silence. 

The room was very full, hardly any seats were available.

Was there a second vote for "who should have gotten the part?"  Like McConaughey?

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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: 1966 California Shelby’s
« on: July 15, 2019, 12:57:18 PM »
Speaking of cruising PCH without a sticker on my 65 #81 when I pass a motorcycle cop on my way to cars and coffee. I let off the gas to quiet down the Webber’s and I pass him right at the speed limit. I look up in the rear view and here he comes! Damn, he saw that I didn’t have the EXEMPT sticker! Luckily I got off with a warning and a “cool car, I’ve got a red 66 and I’m on SAAC boards too!” Gotta
Love this community!

Was this recently?  I am surprised that a CA police officer would even know (or care) about an exempt sticker on a car that old.
Or was it pchmotoho and he truly did just want to look at your car?

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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Engine Temp Issues
« on: July 14, 2019, 11:15:56 PM »
Can the OP please let us know if the engine has been over-bored...and if so, by how much?

A 0.060 over 289 (and a lot of other engines) will tend to run hot, IMO.   Early Mustangs weren't exactly known for having lots of thermal reserve in their cooling systems, although YES millions of early Mustangs have run just fine with all the stock equipment.  But now we have here a rebuilt engine with unknown specs, an alternate coolant, and possibly other things that might be contributing to the "running hot" issue.  (I'm still suspecting a vacuum leak and/or the retarded timing...OR the simplest answer in that there's nothing wrong at all. Once the coolant level and any air pockets in the system have been worked out, it may operate properly.)

I agree with Doug and others who have said that 200-210 is not hot. You need a lengthy 212-degree heat to burn off condensation. That's why, long ago, many little old lady cars had tons of gunk in the crankcase despite having only a few thousand miles on the engine.  They weren't driven long enough to get "good and hot" and thus that became a great contributor to the sludge. Fortunately, oils have improved markedly over the decades, but it still is a good idea to not over-cool the engine so far so that it never gets up to "proper" operating temp.

As for the thermostat temp, I tend to agree with running a 180-190 t-stat. But I have also owned cars that ran hot and I removed the t-stat completely. Some still ran hot, while others ran a bit cooler.  In those that ran cooler, it probably was a malfunctioning t-stat in the first place, so removing it helped the coolant flow.  The primary purpose of the t-stat is to allow the engine to get up to operating temp. Most notably in cold weather. Once the t-stat opens completely,  it's up to the rest of the cooling system to do its job.

Bob has seen/judged/scrutinized more Mustangs than I have, so I will defer to him as to a (relatively rare) situation where a lower temp t-stat actually does reduce overall engine temps.

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Florida Region SAAC / Re: Movie, Ford vs Ferrari
« on: July 14, 2019, 01:19:22 PM »
Born Dec 27, 1948.

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SAAC-44 / Re: SAAC 44 was amazing
« on: July 13, 2019, 11:29:21 PM »
Very glad to hear there was a strong turn-out of people and cars! 

My last SAAC was the CA event in '13.  I thought that event seemed to have a light turnout, but it's a big facility, so that might have been just my perception.  Of course, nothing will ever match the mega-SAAC-shows of the 1980s.  That was a golden era.

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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: Engine Temp Issues
« on: July 13, 2019, 11:12:59 PM »
Nice looking engine compartment. 

Checked for a vacuum leak?

Those temps don't really sound very hot to me.  Unless it was a bone cold day outside when you checked them.  But I have no experience with waterless coolant, so I can't comment on that part.

There are some very knowledgeable guys on here who will tell you that a 160 degree stat is too low. 180-190 seems to be more the preferred range.

What happens if you bump up the timing by 2 degrees or so?  Not sure that retarded initial timing is what you want...depending on how your camshaft was degreed-in, of course.

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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: 1966 California Shelby’s
« on: July 13, 2019, 08:53:14 PM »
The stickers were for NOX only and not issued as early as 68. You couldn't add the NOX kit to a car with a mechanical advance distributor. It restricted the vacuum line. I'm certain that the exempt letter in the front of the owners manual had to do with the first 66 GT350 being 1965 cars that did not have the thermactor air pumps. Once the letter was received they probably just ordered the 66 cars as 49 state cars without the CA required parts. Also air nozzles were in the exhaust manifolds not the heads on the early Mustangs and would have needed to be welded into the headers.

Makes sense.  And yes, on the NOX system needing a vacuum distributor. It reduced/prevented vacuum advance, and also required retarding the initial timing settings, so emissions were a slight bit better, but at great expense of driveability and performance.

There was even a little sticker from the NOX device maker that said something to the effect of "Do not exceed 60 mph in this vehicle."  Now there's some fun times.

Everyone I knew took all the NOX crap off as soon as they were around the corner from the inspection station and had their blue sticker.

My experience was only from 1974-newer, because '74 was when I got my first car. 

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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: 1966 California Shelby’s
« on: July 13, 2019, 08:52:30 PM »
Man this side-oilers guy is hip and cool thanks man hope to see you at a stoplight on PCH ! 👍

Thanks, and you too!  Let's lay down some rubber in honor of no more CHP emissions check stations.  I haven't seen one since the late 1970s, I don't think.  CHP just does DUI checkpoints these days.

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Up For Auction / Re: 1968 GT500
« on: July 13, 2019, 08:47:08 PM »
At least they could've put on a more believable 427 emblem. 

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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: 1966 California Shelby’s
« on: July 13, 2019, 05:10:06 PM »
That's a great story! Score one for us Shelby guys!

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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: 1966 California Shelby’s
« on: July 13, 2019, 12:00:59 AM »
I wasn't driving in 1968, so your memories of the CHP using sniffers is more accurate than my perception. Thanks for the clarification.

As far as I have been able to research, the CA Department of Consumer Affairs (the name shown on your red EXEMPT sticker) was formed in 1970. That's about the time I remember seeing those (blue not red) stickers on older cars. I'm not arguing that those blue or red NOX SYSTEM stickers weren't used as early as 1966, but I'd have to say they probably didn't have "Department of Consumer Affairs" printed on them.

Can't say for 100% certain that I recall any EXEMPT stickers in 1974. But I definitely remember on my car, and those of my friends in 1974, we had to put the stupid NOX devices on our cars, then we drove down and got a very similar PASSED official (blue) sticker on the windshield, and then went home and promptly removed the NOX device and reset the timing until next time.

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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: 1966 California Shelby’s
« on: July 12, 2019, 09:31:22 PM »
A friend of mine who had a 427 Cobra, back in the day, got nailed by one of those stations for loud exhaust.  The fix-it ticket needed a way to get fixed without having to actually change the exhaust system at all.

So, he went and got his girl friend's new-ish car and went back on a different day to the pop-up check station. The new car didn't have any trouble getting a passing sticker, so when he got home, he heated up and pulled off the sticker and put it on the windshield of his Cobra. 

Somehow, that sticker worked its magic and some officer signed off on the ticket.

After that, the Cobra got waved past any CHP check station...so long as my friend had the clutch in and the revs down to an idle.

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1966 Shelby GT350/GT350H / Re: 1966 California Shelby’s
« on: July 12, 2019, 09:17:08 PM »
Those sneaky CHP guys! 

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