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Quote from: Coralsnake on April 19, 2024, 09:29:41 AM

Picture just sent to me, a little more than typical in my opinion

Definitely more then most IMO.

I have never used repro hinges but I can only imagine that there is a compromise in ether look or performance like there is with most repro parts.

Quote from: Steve Meltzer on April 18, 2024, 10:10:17 PMThank you all for your input on this post. Having looked over all the information you've provided, the situation with these hood hinges is now clear as mud. Let me go back to square one. This car, number 03661, is the Ben Wagoner car. Three times a Gold Crown winner, and thus as accurate as it could be.

When I got the car, the hood sat significantly proud to the left fender. I was told by several people that it would not be easy to repair, and that I probably would be best living with this problem. However, I spoke with Ben, who told me that it was not like that when he owned it and probably the hinge on the driver's side needed adjustment. My guy agreed, and adjusted it as much as he could, but thought that the hinge was defective. That's where this whole saga began.

Indeed, replacing the hinge, with the only thing available, a reproduction hinge with a "KR fiberglass hood spring", yielded an excellent result, but not quite as good as I would like. (another downside to being OCD!)

My question now is, if I have the original hinges rebuilt, and those pictures are attached, might I expect an even better result? And if I replace the repro hinges with rep built originals, I assume I should use the large diameter springs that were on it originally. Is this correct? I'm guessing that the springs are really unrelated to the hood alignment. Is this correct? So that is why I'm trying to find someone with expertise in rebuilding these hinges and Marcus does not do it. (I know because I asked.)

Thanks again for helping me. Steve.

Typically the hinges are taken out of service and considered bad because one or both become loose where they pivot. I have had good luck by putting the hinge at the rivet joint in a hydraulic press and taking the loose clearance away by press smashing the rivet down more. This solves most of the possible problems but not all. The hole that the rivet is pressed into can become enlarged which can be fixed but much more effort and cost. Good hinges are still plentiful on the used market and is why I would never consider the 250.00 plus charge each I hear tell of for rebuilders. Of course it is easier for me to replace and restore hinges then you. If you decide to go the rebuild route then you would have to do both so that they match each other. I doubt they will come back with a finish like what was on them when Ben did the car however.

Quote from: Fast Fords on April 18, 2024, 02:10:27 PMI have a used 66-67 Shelby Cobra intake for sale. The intake has been cleaned by previous owner and is in nice condition. The cover is still on the bottom of the intake. Price is $1100 plus shipping. Email gandcmurphy@rogers.com if interested. Thanks.

It is a later 67 and 68 version. It is not 66 or early 67 version.

Quote from: texas swede on April 17, 2024, 11:32:19 PMHi Bob,
I was mistaken. The article was in The Shelby American, Sept-Oct 1979, Volume 4 Nuber 5, Page 9.
It was sent to Jeff Burgy by Roger Hodyka 
Texas Swede

Thank you very much kind sir.

Quote from: OldMil on April 18, 2024, 10:14:43 AMHi All,
    I'm having a moment (seems to be happening more often).  A December GT500 would not have the extra bracing like a GT500KR, but more like the extra welding on an S-code, correct?

Correct.

Hint, it is as it relates to a CJ or SCJ 4 speed.

Something looks very wrong in these two pictures and I don't mean the terrible historic detailing. The red flag is at full mast.

Quote from: Sfm6sxxx on April 17, 2024, 03:07:08 PM

Quote from: Bob Gaines on April 17, 2024, 02:12:43 PM

Quote from: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 11:16:47 AMNot mine

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1969-shelby-gt500-mitchell-sd-2782814

For those of us that have been around a while seeing the sellers name  http://www.telstarmotors.com lets one know what to expect as far as correctness and quality. At least those that have inspected and or judged his restorations.

I havent seen that name in ages.  They used to advertise in Hemmings way back.

He was the one that adv a 5.00 hr shop rate which was crazy cheap 25/30 years ago . The catch was the hourly rate clock started when you dropped the car off and ran non stop 24/7 throughout the restoration. At least that is what several customers have told me over the years. 

Quote from: Coralsnake on April 17, 2024, 11:16:47 AMNot mine

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/listing/1969-shelby-gt500-mitchell-sd-2782814

For those of us that have been around a while seeing the sellers name  http://www.telstarmotors.com lets one know what to expect as far as correctness and quality. At least those that have inspected and or judged his restorations.  

Quote from: 6R07mi on April 17, 2024, 12:57:39 PM

Quote from: texas swede on February 12, 2024, 10:01:26 AMHi guys,
I have attached a page showing the rear brake parts for 65/66 GT350's. It was published in "The Marque" in the end of the seventies or beginning of the eighties. Don't know if I am correct on the name but I believe it was Roger Hodyka.
Texas Swede

TX Swede,
 I will claim authorship for that article in the Marque!
I was working at a Ford dealer in Farmington MI at the time and found a customer we had was a K/H engineer.
So I questioned him on the unique Shelby brake hardware, he is the one who told me the springs were functionally the same as the RPO Ford hardware, the difference was the springs were made to tolerate higher temps without loss of performance. "hi temp springs"

regards,

jim p 

Jim,do you remember what issue of the Marque your article was in?

Quote from: 68blk500c on April 17, 2024, 10:23:12 AMYou are correct about the exhaust manifolds, however we are talking about the control valve/flapper, here, and it being original/factory/delivered on 1968 GT500 cars.

I wasn't fortunate enough to own a '68 GT500 when new, but I suspect this part, the exhaust flapper, was a nuisance part.  Springs probably got weak or broken, which caused noise.  The functional benefit was negligible.  It possibly was the source of exhaust leaks.  They got removed and discarded with most exhaust work.  Service departments probably chose the spacer alternative.

All of this boils down to--not many cars remained with their original valve/flapper.  I have noticed some highly original, unrestored '68 GT500s that have this part.  Those cars and the SA parts/assembly documentation cause me to strongly believe that it should be considered when concours judging.

   

To reinforce what was said, back in the day when new exhaust was needed most shops fabricated the exhaust out of stock from pattern cards so as not to have to have inventory for a multitude of different make cars on hand. It was easy to make a H pipe that didn't require the spacer in place. I wasn't a owner from new but can remember having one done that way without the valve and locked up flapper in 1973.

For clarification the air cleaner base would be for 67 thermactor equipped GT350 only. No thermactor would not use this base.

I am in agreement with my esteemed colleague.

Quote from: Steve Meltzer on April 16, 2024, 08:14:58 PMOkay, I've learned that all hood hinges are the same for 1968 Mustangs. However, KRs with their fiberglass hoods, require different springs. Having said, that I now see that the repro hinges available don't look like the originals on my car, one of which is defective. Is there someone who can  recondition and refurbish my old hinges? Thanks Steve

Most of use find another set of original hinges and recondition them so they look like the rest of the parts under the hood.Junk yards,swap meets ,parts cars etc.I would suggest you contact Marcus since you have done business with him before and source the hinges through him.