SAAC Forum

Quote from: 69mach351w on September 12, 2020, 02:49:23 PM
How can you tell an original pair of the aluminum grilles from a pair of repops?

Is the original grilles with speaker cutouts harder to find?  I'm looking for some for my 67 coupe deluxe interior and haven't seen any anywhere.

Th repro grilles are very nice thankfully because it is so rare to find a used set where the fins are not scarred up. if you put original fabric in the speaker opening it is hard to tell the difference between a original. FYI I think that is the reason that most of the used ones you see for sale have the speaker fabric removed. Very suspicious .

Quote from: T-Bone68 on September 12, 2020, 12:56:54 PM
Interesting about the licensing.   I wonder if your average guy buys a kit from Mustangs To Fear and builds their own clone, are they living in fear of a call from a lawyer?  Or only when they advertise to sell it?

Nowhere in the article or on the Classic Recreations website do they mention the "E" word.  I noticed they don't use the E hood.  After all these years in business, they must know what subtle differences are needed to avoid a licensing fee.

I goggled -" youtube eleanor car confiscated " and all kinds of articles came up. Even legal issues if your building your own personal E tribute.

Quote from: 2112 on September 12, 2020, 12:27:47 PM
"Elinor" I like that.

I will not amend my typo because It is silly concept regardless how it is spelt

Quote from: camp upshur on September 12, 2020, 11:44:06 AM
This may be the most complicated simple question ever asked!
The short answer is: SAI's use of the term 'order' date. SAI seemingly used that date to suggest when a car was ordered by a customer (usually a dealer). That date often times was months after the car was completed at SAI and completely unrelated the car's Ford or SAI build date.
The long answer is: for instance on my 65 the block was cast:5D19. The engine was assembled:5D28 in Cleveland.
The cars sheet metal is all 2/3 week April and arrived at the airport on 5/09. This would suggest that the car had been completed and they were awaiting engines, especially since 5/09 is apparently the largest single shipment of Mustangs to SAI (38) spanning 5S229-5S375. These 38 sequential Fords entered work immediately (5/10) and were then interspersed with another 108 other Mustangs as 5S375 entered work on 6/03.
The real delamination of 'order' date to block casting number begins here. In cases such as mine, which is not atypical, the car was an HPM demo and was not sold for months. It's order date bore no relationship to it's block casting date.
Hope this helps.

Cars were built at SJ plant and had engines installed there not at SA. Ford wouldn't build the chassis unless engines were on hand to install in them. I have never heard tell of a holding area for chassis's built at SJ waiting for engines . Even the R models with special race prepared engines came to SA as running driving car but with stock K engines. Shelby's were not typically special ordered in the later years let alone 65 when they were all virtually the same. I concur that the cars were built on speculation. When a dealer order came in it was typically filled with a car already built.  If there was any relevance between order and engine casting or assembly date it would have to be with the day SA placed the order to Ford and not any kind of dealer order which would most likely be a time way after the fact.

Quote from: gt350bp on September 12, 2020, 11:37:12 AM
Has anyone seen the article today in the Detroit Free Press regarding a new, starting at $298,000 carbon fiber "Eleanor"? Twenty-five are to be built and listed in the Shelby Registry!?? Hopefully these are not included in any SAAC Registry! Maybe their own registry, but do not dilute the real cars with these recreations from "rusted" junk Mustangs. I believe the article stated that the Ford VIN's will be used and new Shelby numbers assigned. Just not right! What do you think?

Don
gt350bp   

Don,it has been done before a number of times with other Shelby car recreations in recent years. Shelby in Vegas has their ongoing registry for the cars they make which also includes the ones that others pay them for licensing so that they can make . If it is refereed to as Elinor then they will have to get licensing from the Elinor trademark holder Lady (35K from what others paying for it selling cars at BJ this past Jan said) . They keep track just to be sure anyone using the name has paid them for it. The same I am sure goes for Shelby in Vegas if it has a Shelby identification on it. Maybe/probably one is built as proof of concept and they hope that buyers will think it is the next big thing and buy into the hype and plunk down a big deposit to order one.That has also been done by other licensed companies before with unfortunate endings for buyers in the past.  25 makes it sound very exclusive and collectible.

Quote from: nvr-enuf on September 12, 2020, 11:42:06 AM
My 68 convert header piece needs to be redone and I believe it is "hard chrome" not shiny chrome

Does any forum members have a contact for redoing this piece ?


Pls reply or pm me
Thanks
Scott

I have not heard referred to as hard chrome but regardless Tim Lea told me he had someone at one time that did some.

Quote from: Coralsnake on September 12, 2020, 11:07:50 AM
The last guy who was told car wasn't real was banished for eternity.

Best not tell anyone else that story

There is a difference .That last guy wasn't told his car wasn't real just the evidenced laid in his lap to show that the jig is up. That guy knew his car was a fake yet he portrayed it as real and even fake shamed others at times in hypocritical fashion. No one banished him he banished himself because he was outed. 

Quote from: 68krrrr on September 11, 2020, 03:03:51 PM
What was the purpose of the seal was it a cooling  thing ?

Yes,a cooling thing . It sealed up against the hood and forced more through the radiator opening.

Quote from: CSX 4133 on September 11, 2020, 11:17:23 AM

Try OPGI and see if their hoses might work, they offer various diameters and lengths.

https://www.opgi.com/fittings-hoses/hoses/heaterac-side-duct-hose/duct-hose-1954-88-gm-vehicles-heater-ac-3-vinyl-c210191.html

Will  most likely work but doesn't look the same as what was used back in the day if you are trying for the look along with function. Picture in reply #13 is what it typically looked like . There were some other variations.

Quote from: deathsled on September 10, 2020, 07:15:07 PM
https://fordauthority.com/2020/09/watch-this-1967-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-get-carved-from-a-block-of-wood-video/

It looks like one of those silly Elinor inspired cars.

Quote from: bobboss351 on September 10, 2020, 04:31:29 PM
9 6 1970 , Shelby trunk under layment and Matt, 70 Shelby gt 500 fastback,
  Have the underlayment from Jack at Dead Nuts.  The under  layment goes all the way over to the dvr side  Quarter panel and interfere with the anntenna mast,  Does it get folded over on the dvr side like  69 Boss 429 ? does the pass side get folder over or Cut for the Space saver spare bracket or folder over as well, Then that leads to the next question. What about the Trunk matt, Thank you very much, Bob

The antenna mast tube should not go down farther then the cardboard filler board /underlayment in the trunk drop . If it does then you have one that is too long .Not sure where you got it from but maybe one of the remakes . Definitely not a factory Shelby antenna because they all fit from the factory.  Call me and I will explain how to modify use to work and look right. Not a big deal.

Quote from: bobboss351 on September 10, 2020, 01:36:34 PM
Gary,,
that is great information, i did locate some very good pics from the concours forum on the park lamp area black out,,,
Got the frt spoiler and hardware from Ed so , Cannot go wrong with that, the valance was cracked and  fixed  no spoiler, so looking for the correct hardware and location,,,,
  Does you car have the plastic inner splash shields behind the galvanized inner plate,,,, owns were missing both frt ,,,
do you have any pics of the trunk underlayment matt area, , Bob

Bob, the front plastic splash shields that screw to the galvanized shield are the same as regular 69 Mustang front shield.

Quote from: Szabo on September 10, 2020, 12:59:14 PM
Thanks for the explaining about this "Dealer Plate" Thing...

i learn a lot, and i love to learn and go deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole of Shelby Knowledge.

A Question from me ...

i saw a early Pic GT350 with 1Z 013 on the Plate and the ABC has 26 Letters, so it is possible to say
this was the 26.th Street car or one of the first 26 street Cars built ?

for me, as a little Timeline Nerd, it would be a very good chance to date a pic right or possible right.

Thanks a lot

Stephan

The plates that SA used were MFG plates not Dealer plates. The MFG plates do not have any thing to do with the Shelby vin of the car. A MFG got assigned a certain amount of plates to use on their cars . 4,5 ,10 etc. The same plate may be swapped around for use on different cars while they were driven on public roads.

Quote from: Rocket on September 10, 2020, 12:49:15 PM
6S550 Did not have the studs, pins,, or holes in  the hood when I bought it. The hood might have been replaced, but the paperwork that Howard has doesn't show anything about the hood.Ron

That is a good guess  given all 66 GT350's typically came with studs,click pins from SA. If it didn't logically then it was more likely replaced by someone else not familiar with Shelby's. Howards info would typically relate to warranty work etc. A collision repair (one reason for hood replacement ) or the like would not be part of that information associated with what SA/Ford had to pay for.

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