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csx3035, Dick Smith  ??

Jim(acman63).............I would LOVE to see these photos you speak of and encourage you to post them here.  I've been promised those photos for years...................

And......how many previous owners/drivers/mechanics of this car are still alive  ??

ps..............is the new owner planning on joining the Historic Trans Am Group   ??  And why has it not run with them previously............ ??

pss.........and thanks for posting all the '67\68 VINs on a public forum.

I thought this car was recently purchased...........

Sfm6sxxx  ......................  thank you.

Spent two and a half hours with Jim Harrell tonight................a true gentlemen. 

What I can confirm:  the car is the real deal, purchased from Bob Johnson (with a wink and nod, built from a car purchased from a used car lot--not DST or H/M) , raced in A/S by Johnson and Harrell with ALL of the fiberglass parts noted in the Homologation papers--including doors, it was sold by Harrell without suspension or drivetrain (ALL of which was transferred to another car), the homologation papers I have and shared with him are distinctly different from his recollection.  Oh and ................ if you want  add'l information...you'll have to call me---sorry..........history  is interesting  GG

....a color photo...for those skeptics of Black and White............

You are very correct, Tom...good suggestion....I have sent him an inquiry.

this is what I have.........

https://historicdb.fia.com/sites/default/files/car_attachment/1487694601/homologation_form_number_1250_group_t.pdf

UPDATE......I have new information: the 4th owner of 43 years served 7 months as a guest of the state, was released and has been a model citizen since his release.  The event the car was last run was SAAC 7.

Understood Randy.  The FIA/ACCUS homologation papers had all of the fiberglass components approved.  The SCCA, it seems, made changes to the homologated items based upon their perceived safety concerns.  That was done routinelky for both A/Sedan and Trans Am.  That said, fiberglass panels did run at various times on three Falcons that I am aware of --the Johnson/Harrell car, the Pike car and the Cordts/Dittemore Falcon.  Fiberglass doors or bumpers were never allowed.  This was confirmed to me by both Sesslar and Pike............  We can take that for what its worth.  Since I wasn't there, it's the only evidence I am aware of---I am certainly open to hearing more.  Regarding the alleged prototype, 999 claims or description..............I have no evidence to prove or disprove...caveat emptor

Kranky is absolutely correct   !!!

This is a real deal car originally Prairie Beige with red interior............documented ownership chain from new..................I have interviewed Don Sesslar extensively about this car.  Purportedly built by Dearborn Steel Tubing(unconfirmed by me).  Documented race history.

Last driven at Pocono Speedway @ SAAC ?? in the '80's in its current livery (owned and driven by Jim Harrell in this livery).  Engine expired during the event and parked-----prior owner now resides in a Federally subsidized gated community....current owner is well known throughout the vintage racing, SACC and Historic Trans Am communities with a eyebrow raising reputation.

several of us have tracked this car for 30 years or more

Randy...you should google Bob Johnson and Don Sesslar look at the race results..........smooch

Jay and all Forum members.....I apologize for the misinformation

In the spirit of support of SAAC:

1) As a reminder, SAAC is a for profit corporation.  Any donations, just like any other income will be taxed...just like any other income.  They will see maybe 50% of any donation...maybe.  Why are we 'assuming' they need money ??
2) Volunteerism has been a cornerstone of the local and national SAAC events......the grassroots will support the club.  Bring out a car and let a 10 year old sit in it while the engine is running.
3) Provide the opportunity to learn about the history and mystique and details of SA.............hate to keep repeating....but everyone on this Forum should have all the Registrys.
4)Passion has been replaced by Portfolio...........this organization, no matter how much of a Forum survives....will eventually shrink to fit based upon the passion of the ownership and the availability of the cars.

Off to Monterey............

for reference:  https://www.bmcc.cuny.edu/lrc/studyskills/factsandopinions.pdf