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shelbymann1970

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Re: Hood screens
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2020, 12:53:23 PM »
I recently color matched the unique 69 Shelby grey grill paint from a nos (leftover from the aosmith plant) stoneguard that was damaged but never installed and it isn't the 1970 dark argent grey instead its a previous ford color we found in color charts from the paint shop. I will be selling some cans shortly along with my 70 Shelby hood stripe 4 part stencil kit copy from an nos stencil out of the KK plant. The stoneguard ,grill, headlight rings were painted somehow not attached to fenders then after fenders were mounted and lined up the hheadlights and buckets and wire were installed then front splashshields and metal braces that bolt to fender wishbones. Then the stoneguard and grill were lined up and 6  bolts installed and then headlight rings install last with 6 black oxide screws. Every original paint car I inspected had paint scratch marks left in grey painted area above headlight buckets top side from when grill was installed after the headlight buckets were painted grey. There are oblong holes in grill top bar and headlight buckets for adjustments after fenders were installed so grey paint had to be under stoneguard and top grill bar areas otherwise different color would show up in the gaps after grill and stoneguard adjustments.
you mention the stencil kit. Have you ever took numbers on the variations of the hood stripes? Mine were wide like the Larry L pic below. Can't argue with history.  ;D  Gary
 Also when disassembling my Vert in 1996 I, too found gray paint under the stone guard on my headlight buckets as a prior owner had painted all the gray areas assembled  satin black at one time. The back of the grill and that area on the head light bucket I took to a painters supply and they color matched it and told me it was dark argent metallic. The daubs they put on the original paint on both pieces sure matched to me.....Are the colors that close?
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Re: Hood screens
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2020, 03:17:41 PM »
Gary when u bring your 70 Shelby to our 50th 1970 Shelby boss show u can look at 2 70 unrestored gt500s a 7000 and 500 mile original shelbys.  The hood stripes are 5 1/4''     11"       16 1/4''      11"       5  1/4" rear  and  1  5/16"    21 13/16''    1 5/16''  front in the registry book drawing. But most repainted 70 shelbys I see are wrong on the front width they paint stripe 15/16''  of which they are reading the drawing wrong  just look at spacing in drawing as the is a small gap between the 1 and 5  so its 1 5/16'' not 15/16".  I had 70 original paint car owners measure the gap and my notes always read between 1 1/4'' and 1 1/2''  BUT NEVER under 1 1/4''.  I am sure after a while Larry  L. could just guess at the widths.

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Re: Hood screens
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2020, 04:22:03 PM »
Just looked at page 1286  97 registry  hood stripes drawing and I see now why restorers are getting front hood stripe width wrong as the description to the left of drawing says leading edge of hood stripe is  15/16'' wide then both stripes are 21  3/16''   so both those measurements are wrong as they should be 1 5/16''      and 21  13/16''    so drawing is correct (if u read it correctly)  but description is wrong.

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Re: Hood screens
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2020, 06:04:45 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2020, 07:48:18 PM »
See the gap spacing between 1 and 5  then look at 1 and 6 those #s are tight together  so  its 1 5/16''  NOT 15/16''  Now read the description wrote to left of drawing and u can see the 2 measurement mistakes and this is why so many repainted cars have the 15/16'' front stripe mistake.
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Re: Hood screens
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2020, 08:57:20 PM »
We have one in shop right now that needs corrected.  Thanks to Ed I might be able to make it happen!!
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Re: Hood screens
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2020, 10:12:04 PM »
After I send u my new 70 Shelby hood stripe 4 piece layout. I sent first set to bob Wilson as he is painting a 70 hood next week for  a Shelby coming to our show.   I will be painting 2 70 Shelby hoods later this month.

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Re: Hood screens
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2020, 10:24:02 PM »
I still have my Larry Lawrence original hood strip templates on 3M paper that I got back sometime in the 80's. Just pulled them out of the tube that I keep them in since we are talking about them. They are still flexible.
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Re: Hood screens
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2020, 03:26:57 PM »
Gary when u bring your 70 Shelby to our 50th 1970 Shelby boss show u can look at 2 70 unrestored gt500s a 7000 and 500 mile original shelbys.  The hood stripes are 5 1/4''     11"       16 1/4''      11"       5  1/4" rear  and  1  5/16"    21 13/16''    1 5/16''  front in the registry book drawing. But most repainted 70 shelbys I see are wrong on the front width they paint stripe 15/16''  of which they are reading the drawing wrong  just look at spacing in drawing as the is a small gap between the 1 and 5  so its 1 5/16'' not 15/16".  I had 70 original paint car owners measure the gap and my notes always read between 1 1/4'' and 1 1/2''  BUT NEVER under 1 1/4''.  I am sure after a while Larry  L. could just guess at the widths.
I know my car did NOT have the original paint on it when I bought it in 1985 BUT and BUT under the hood was still factory paint and inside the trunk was still factory paint(fenders under hood and HL buckets so I knew where they masked off for the gray). Door jambs were painted that non original maroon and the "P" sticker on the DS upper jamb was very much visible. What I did note was that my hood stripes were LOWER than the repaint and the back edge of the pass side stripe was burned through to CA red paint which meant to me the stripes were the originals and back taped when my car was painted. They even masked off one of my SHELBY rear quarter emblems on the repaint so I used this as a guide to reinstall my quarter emblems. To be clear my car was NEVER stripped and repainted as CA red was under the "maroon" that was on it. My stripe width matched perfectly to the SAAC registry except the "15/16" so to speak. Now I'll have to go measure when I get home. LOL. Gary
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