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Started by 2112, August 07, 2020, 10:58:03 AM

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2112


Coralsnake

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Carroll Shelby, tired of the program by 1969, talked Ford into its discontinuation after the 1969 models were complete.

Im wondering where this comes from?

A pink GT350 in 1969?

If I were going to write an article about something I dont know about, I would ask for some help.

Coralsnake

#47

Coralsnake

#48
This letter shows Smith declining to proceed with a quote on the 1970 cars.

This ended the program.

This is after two years of not being paid ( including storage cited above) in a timely manner, being blamed for all quality issues, it was AOSmith that taped out.

The program end had nothing to do with Shelby convincing Ford. Remember these cars were expensive and not selling well.

1971 models had already been planned.

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Coralsnake on August 22, 2020, 02:49:01 PM
This letter shows Smith declining to proceed with a quote on the 1970 cars.

This ended the program.

This is after two years of not being paid ( including storage cited above) in a timely manner, being blamed for all quality issues, it was AOSmith that taped out.

The program end had nothing to do with Shelby convincing Ford. Remember these cars were expensive and not selling well.

1971 models had already been planned.
That fact will not stop the urban legend spouted by the uninformed to come up again and again. The article was better written then then many I have read but they should have had someone proof read it that was more familiar with 69/70 details IMHO. The subject deserved only the best IMO.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Side-Oilers

Coralsnake's knowledge and docs tell the history.

I can't imagine CS ever opting out of a deal where someone paid him.
Current:
2006 FGT, Tungsten. Whipple, HRE 20s, Ohlin coil-overs, 3.90 gears. Certified 210.7 mph.

Kirkham Cobra. 482-inch aluminum side-oiler. Tremec 5-spd.

Formerly:
1968 GT500KR #2575 (1982-2022)
1970 Ranchero GT 429
1969 LTD Country Squire 429
1963 T-Bird Sport Roadster
1957 T-Bird E-model

Coralsnake

Ok I will cut him some slack, overall a good article.


2112

Quote from: Coralsnake on August 22, 2020, 03:34:42 PM
Ok I will cut him some slack, overall a good article.

Especially considering (as with most muscle car publications) HMM is mostly focused on MOPAR and GM products.

It has improved quite a bit Since Joe Oldham passed. That guy Hated Fords.

propayne

Lots of Mercury Cougar features in HMM since its inception.

More than a few have made the cover.

- Phillip
President, Delmarva Cougar Club - Brand Manager, Cougar Club of America

cj750

#54
Perhaps people get the idea that Shelby asked Ford to discontinue the program after '69 because that's what he himself said at the time.  (Sports Car Graphic, Feb. '70 issue.)

Every post I make comes with an implied request for corrections. I'm here to learn.

Coralsnake

#55
Can we open the "Things Shelby said" can of worms now? Lol

A valid point though... once its in print, very difficult to correct the record. Most likely it was several events and not a single one that ended the peogram

cj750

Quote from: Coralsnake on August 24, 2020, 09:38:36 AMMost likely it was several events and not a single one that ended the peogram

Exactly. I have no reason to doubt Shelby's claim, the reasons he cites make perfect sense in the context of the times. None of it is incompatible with AO Smith's desire to withdraw for valid reasons of their own. In any event, if actual '71 Shelbys would have resembled this prototype, we're fortunate the plug was pulled when it was.
Every post I make comes with an implied request for corrections. I'm here to learn.

Coralsnake

#57
Awe, you wouldnt drive that?  ;)

That would be a fun project to build that car!

I think I saw a photo of the left side of the car and it looks a different? A+ if you can find that photo.

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Coralsnake on August 24, 2020, 09:38:36 AM
Can we open the "Things Shelby said" can of worms now? Lol

A valid point though... once its in print, very difficult to correct the record. Most likely it was several events and not a single one that ended the peogram
+1 .  Better for CS to put the last nail in the coffin himself as the reason then have the embarrassing task of explaining all the factors including Smith not wanting to build anymore most likely for the reasons of non payment of services.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

shelbymann1970

#59
Quote from: Coralsnake on August 22, 2020, 02:44:15 PM

Thanks Pete. I have been living under a rock on this. Now I see there was more to the  story. Gary
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)