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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2020, 07:32:51 AM »
The OD is about 2 15/16" and the ID of the hoses is 3". Also there is a plastic bag including 4 brackets with a screw in the middle
and 4 nuts which hold the plastic pieces in respective wheel well opening.
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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2020, 07:37:54 AM »
3"? Not according to this. These are from my 3074, and LA. What part of China are yours from?  ;)

These hoses are most definitely 3” ID in diameter. The side scoops start out at 2.75” but tapper to 3” where the rivets attach.

The hose is slightly different than other hoses I’ve used. It has a larger interior flat band that supports the insides, instead of a wire like most.

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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2020, 08:28:30 AM »
I really don't appreciate your comment about China. The newspaper used as packing material in the box is dared 1968
and I don't believe China made Shelby parts in the sixties. 
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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2020, 09:00:38 AM »
Here are some additional images from the crashed SAAC 1.0 Forum.

Swede did you post this similar photo of the scoop ducting on the green grass carpet?

Also, someone had posted this image of hose by Gates as a replacement option.

The images on old sheet were what was on the car I had, very early '67, show the rivets used to hold the hose to the plastic flanges.

Car #3074 would, to my knowledge, have been too late to have had ducted scoops from Shelby, owner/restorer added?

'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2020, 09:47:56 AM »
Yes, it iss my picture
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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2020, 09:59:38 AM »
Here are some additional images from the crashed SAAC 1.0 Forum.

Swede did you post this similar photo of the scoop ducting on the green grass carpet?

Also, someone had posted this image of hose by Gates as a replacement option.

The images on old sheet were what was on the car I had, very early '67, show the rivets used to hold the hose to the plastic flanges.

Car #3074 would, to my knowledge, have been too late to have had ducted scoops from Shelby, owner/restorer added?

This is true JD but the scoops are original and the best fit for a hose to them would be a 2.75" ID. I suppose that you can use a 3" hose if you were ok with a loose fit?

Yes. 3074 has an interesting previous history as a race car by a chain of previous owners. It's like Captain Quint is in "Jaws", colorful.  ;)


I'm not a chemist and can't analyze the original materials used for the ducting. I am repeating an answer to a question that I asked Dave Mathews about. I am sharing that here with the "community". That's all.

Even so, what's the big deal with what the hose has to be made of? It's a concealed part and the most important thing is never having to disassemble the car again to replace it. It ain't exactly easy to get at. Whatever the original hose was, it was not a very good application since it so quickly deteriorated.


It's interesting JD that the picture that you posted of the "original duct hose" has the same tears in the fabric that I am familiar with. The term Dave used was "rotted out". ;)


I have a repro scoop here from Branda and the molded in duct flange on that one is definitely different and definitely uses a 3" id hose.

So possibly that's where some of the confusion could be from?


Look, I'm not telling anyone what to do. That's up to them. I can just report on what I have.

I know of someone else that when he hears of something that he doesn't like claims it's "fake news"?

Some of you just can't let a day go buy without a good argument and Coralsnake isn't even involved in that? ;)


As far as you go Swede, if you are referring to my post about China and the source of Bill's scoop, show me where there is any mention of your kit by me?

Swedish and Texan? I hope you never get a hold of a nuclear device, that might be the end to world? Gaboom. Quite a mix!  ;D

Yikes!  ;D


Carry on your "debate". I've got better things to do.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2020, 10:03:16 AM by shelbydoug »
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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2020, 10:22:02 AM »
Does anyone know the Gates hose part #?

Any tips on how to prevent water from leaking into the space the hose passes thru?

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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2020, 10:33:03 AM »
Does anyone know the Gates hose part #?

Any tips on how to prevent water from leaking into the space the hose passes thru?
And comedians need not respond. ;D
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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2020, 11:49:05 AM »
One link, there are others

Gates® 23848 more details on - https://www.carid.com/gates/engine-defroster-air-intake-hose-mpn-23848.html
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2020, 12:15:51 PM »
One link, there are others

Gates® 23848 more details on - https://www.carid.com/gates/engine-defroster-air-intake-hose-mpn-23848.html
That is a good alternate that is more weather proof but does not have the appearance of the original. With that said it is after all concealed.
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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2020, 05:35:54 PM »
I bought a Gates 23848 hose a few years ago and it no longer had the metal ribbing but was a plastic ribbing.  May be able to find older stock with original metal ribs but should ask first if that is what you want.  The photo posted may be older design.
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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2020, 08:08:22 PM »
^^^ Kurt, thanks

Yes, the one site had images that did look like metal but others had the plastic and looks very different.

'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2020, 09:50:13 AM »
I found one on Ebay.  The seller says it has metal ribbing.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/GATES-DEFROSTER-HOSE-AIR-INTAKE-HOSE-23848-3-DIAMTER/273228651820?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Looks close but not exact - take a look and see if it will work for you.
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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2020, 11:17:23 AM »

Try OPGI and see if their hoses might work, they offer various diameters and lengths.

https://www.opgi.com/fittings-hoses/hoses/heaterac-side-duct-hose/duct-hose-1954-88-gm-vehicles-heater-ac-3-vinyl-c210191.html

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Re: Brake duct tubing
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2020, 11:25:59 AM »

Try OPGI and see if their hoses might work, they offer various diameters and lengths.

https://www.opgi.com/fittings-hoses/hoses/heaterac-side-duct-hose/duct-hose-1954-88-gm-vehicles-heater-ac-3-vinyl-c210191.html
Will  most likely work but doesn't look the same as what was used back in the day if you are trying for the look along with function. Picture in reply #13 is what it typically looked like . There were some other variations.
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