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eric lipper

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Times have Changed
« on: October 19, 2020, 10:02:52 PM »
Took the 69 Shelby Convertible to a Mustang Club of Houston show this past weekend.  There was a very nice 68 Shelby Convertible, a 68 Shelby Fastback and a 67 Shelby Fastback.  Oddly the Shelby was in a group of Shelby's which included several 2007 - 2019 versions.  There was a first, second and third place for the judges and nothing older than 1978 got a trophy.  I knew I was in trouble when the Judge asked me if a GT500 has 500 horsepower.  The real tragedy was that they gave first place in the Shelby class to my 1978 King Cobra because they did not believe that it was a Mustang >:(
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CharlesTurner

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Re: Times have Changed
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2020, 10:16:16 PM »
Usually these kind of shows it's best to enter the car as display-only.  Show support for the local club and their charity and enjoy the day worry-free. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2020, 10:25:08 PM »
Hey at least you participated in a show, all my planned events got axed this year.

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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2020, 10:47:50 PM »
Bottom line is you have a very cool car which is “show worthy”...Also rare so most people aren’t “up to speed” on it.Dont worry,be happy 8)

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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2020, 01:45:15 AM »
No way boy's - I agree with Eric that's a S#!% show vs a car show. I would venture to guess the currant demographics in Houston does not help matters  ::)
« Last Edit: October 20, 2020, 01:46:47 AM by 427hunter »
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2020, 02:19:38 AM »
When I was in my 20's I had zero interest in 50-year-old cars from the '30s.

Still don't.

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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2020, 05:33:29 AM »
Duesenburgs,Cord,Pierce Arrow,Twin Aix Packards, nothing there?

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2020, 08:39:53 AM »
All the more reason for folks to get their cars out and show them and drive them.  Far to long have folks just put them in the garage and kept them as museum pieces afraid to get them dirty.  I promise when you are dead and gone the car will still be here and probably getting driven.... think about that... . 

If you bought them for an investment and care about their prices, then you have to invest in showing them to peak the interest of the younger generation.  Remember for most of us, that is exactly what happened.  You saw the car on the street and wanted to learn more and you worked hard to get one.
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eric lipper

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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2020, 09:46:57 AM »
No way boy's - I agree with Eric that's a S#!% show vs a car show. I would venture to guess the currant demographics in Houston does not help matters  ::)

Looks like you have 853 and I have 889 -- almost family.
1947 Beech Staggerwing
1955 Beech Bonanza
1963 Vette Split Window
1965 Jag Conv
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1967 GT500
1968 GT500KR Conv
1969 Boss 429
1969 GT500 Conv
1978 King Cobra
1984 Aerostar 700P
2001 King Air F90GT
2002 Enzo
2005 Ford GT
2005 NSX

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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2020, 10:06:15 AM »
I'd be curious to see the list of "classes" you had to choose from.

Clubs putting on small shows are often stuck combining classes.  They often change from meet to meet as they look to see who all is showing up at their shows.  The more late model cars showing up, means the more classes in those.  My local clubs often have a "Mustang Pre 1978" class and then a few classes covering the later Mustangs.  I don't blame them as they might, MIGHT have 7 pre 73 Mustangs show up (and we are a Mustang club), then they will have 20 from 2000 to date. 
So was there a "Shelby" class?  Or some "Modified" which meant your Shelby and Cobra II wound up in the same class, along with modified cars.  Perhaps they had a "Hot Rod" class also.  It's always a Cr*P shoot on where to put your car.  My friend with a heavily modified 1970 Mach, looks for the class that is "modified" or "hot rod" or "Performance Car" classes.  I decided long ago, to just put mine into the closest "Mustang" class I could and enjoy being out and not worry about any trophy.  Which are up in the attic anyway.  Or as stated, drive over, put it in "Display" and leave 20 minutes before they even begin any awards. 
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2020, 10:17:31 AM »
   Well, I know if you go to enough car shows, this kind of thing will happen.  I love it when at a popular vote type show, some car (doesn't matter what kind) will show up with an hour left in judging...and still trophies in a popular class.  You know the "fix" was in.
   I tropied one time at an auto shop show put on by the High School I went to.  I got the "Aldermans Award"  Why?  Because I happened to write on the show card "Class of 1970"......

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2020, 10:37:49 AM »
Eric,

Go to these kind of shows to have fun, talk to other Shelby/Mustang enthusiast and eat you a funnel cake ;D

BTW, you have an AWESOME Shelby.....500 and a convt to boot?....NIIICE 8)

I always had a soft spot for the '79 Pace car and the 78 King Cobra ;D

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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2020, 10:49:58 AM »
No way boy's - I agree with Eric that's a S#!% show vs a car show. I would venture to guess the currant demographics in Houston does not help matters  ::)

Looks like you have 853 and I have 889 -- almost family.

Yes - btw is 889 an over-ride car also?
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2020, 12:35:07 PM »
Usually these kind of shows it's best to enter the car as display-only.  Show support for the local club and their charity and enjoy the day worry-free.
I used to do that with the local club but they got greedy and upped the display by 350% to matched the "judged" cost(500 percent the first year in 2014). Since I don't like the President quit going to the show(not the only one). Largest Mustang show because they attract 900 late models for the most part if not more. I'm not talking about our local Shelby club I have supported for a long time. BTW the club I don't support anymore I used to be heavily involved in when it was a non profit and we donated to charity. It gave up it's non profit many years ago I'm told. So the "charity" you donate to is the board of the club to do as they see fit... Trophies, don't need them, don't want them, don't have room for them. That is why I like cruise-in and display only.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2020, 12:37:06 PM »
When I was in my 20's I had zero interest in 50-year-old cars from the '30s.

Still don't.
Yeah, but back then you had cool timeless Muscle cars. Gary
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