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What type of rear end do i have? LOL

Started by hurlbird, November 23, 2020, 02:50:18 PM

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hurlbird

Owner of 68 Shelby. This is about my 70 MACH I sorry if this is unethical to ask in this forum. BUT my pinion in leaking and I don't have a tag and have enclosed some pictures to see if they help. I need to get the correct seal. Not looking for ratio insight. Thanks ahead of time!  ;D

Greg

Go to Napa and tell them you need a rear end pinion seal.  They will fix you right up.  Also, go on youtube and look at "9" ford rear end rebuild" or "9" ford pinion seal installation" and you will learn a lot. 
Shelby's and Fords from Day 1

KR Convertible

Check the yoke for a groove where the seal rides.  There are sleeves made to cover the groove and give you a nice fresh surface.

hurlbird

don't I need to know if it is a 8" or 9" ? Thanks

hurlbird


gt350hr

   9" standard duty. The National seal number is 7044NA . They are the best there is.
Celebrating 46 years of drag racing 6S477 and no end in sight.

hurlbird

Confirming this is a 9" correct? For my own knowledge what in the picture gives that away? thanks

Bob Gaines

Quote from: hurlbird on November 23, 2020, 04:05:11 PM
Confirming this is a 9" correct? For my own knowledge what in the picture gives that away? thanks
The 9inch style pinion shield bolted in place is just one.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

hurlbird


68stangcjfb

#9
A full proof way of telling an 8-inch from a 9 inch. You can fit a 9/16 deep socket on all 10 nuts of an 8 inch. On a 9-inch, you can't get the socket on the bottom 2 nuts.
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Scode67FB

As several have confirmed, it's a nine-inch.
Being a "Mach," it had to come from the factory with a nine-inch. Of course, over the 50 years of it's life, anything could've been swapped in.
Visually, as pointed out, the bolt-on pinion snubber is a giveaway. The eight-inch rears didn't have them. Also the socket trick on the bottom two nuts. On an eight-inch rear, you  can get a socket on the bottom two nuts. On a nine-inch, no socket fits. You have to use a wrench.

hurlbird


KR Convertible

Quote from: hurlbird on November 23, 2020, 03:03:50 PM
Sorry KR not following you....

After 50 years of usage, the machined surface of the yoke can develop a groove where the seal rides.  There are sleeves that go over the area and give you a fresh surface and slightly tighter fit in the seal.  I was surprised to learn the seal number remains the same.  Prior to using them I thought it would be a lightly larger ID on the seal, but that has not been my experience.  Below is a link to one.  Please do your own research on part numbers, I just copied the first one I found.

https://www.randysworldwide.com/product/yms99181/

gt350hr

   The pinion retainer , the yoke , the case design , are my clues. As others mentioned the bolt on pinion snubber , instead of cast on , BUT there ARE 9" pinion retainers with cast pinion snubbers.
Celebrating 46 years of drag racing 6S477 and no end in sight.

hurlbird

thanks KR. Seems like this could be a good practice when doing the job regardless. thoughts?