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Something Different - Sunbeam Alpine with 429 engine on CL

Started by JWH, February 09, 2021, 02:38:36 PM

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Complete with pistol  grip shifter!!!you don't see that in a Ford everyday(or ever)..... :o

shelbydoug

Holy smokes! If they ever bring back 'trollies' they can hire that guy to cut the grooves for the tracks with his burnouts?
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I am wondering if it will not overheat in anything over 70 degrees. ;)
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shelbydoug

Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 09, 2021, 03:33:44 PM
I am wondering if it will not overheat in anything over 70 degrees. ;)

Probably no worse then a 67 GT500?  ;D
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557

 Bet the weight distribution makes it "interesting"in turns. :o

BGlover67

It's like sitting on a big block.  The 'transmission tunnel' is more like the 'engine tunnel'.   :o
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Quote from: shelbydoug on February 09, 2021, 03:42:57 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 09, 2021, 03:33:44 PM
I am wondering if it will not overheat in anything over 70 degrees. ;)

Probably no worse then a 67 GT500?  ;D
Keeping a 67 GT 500 cool would be a piece of cake by comparison IMO. A mildly warmed over 289 in a Tiger could have cooling issues I can't imagine what lengths you would have to go through to cool even a mild 429 in that small closed engine space . It is not like you could fit a much higher capacity radiator then what is available for a high performance 289 Tiger in it.
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Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 09, 2021, 03:49:24 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 09, 2021, 03:42:57 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 09, 2021, 03:33:44 PM
I am wondering if it will not overheat in anything over 70 degrees. ;)

Probably no worse then a 67 GT500?  ;D
Keeping a 67 GT 500 cool would be a piece of cake by comparison IMO. A mildly warmed over 289 in a Tiger could have cooling issues I can't imagine what lengths you would have to go through to cool even a mild 429 in that small closed engine space . It is not like you could fit a much higher capacity radiator then what is available for a high performance 289 Tiger in it.

You could remove the hood.  Helps cool things down, and shows the world what you're packin'.
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69mach351w

Seems the back brakes need to be adjusted.  Look how high the e-brake handle is up. :o

shelbydoug

Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 09, 2021, 03:49:24 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 09, 2021, 03:42:57 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 09, 2021, 03:33:44 PM
I am wondering if it will not overheat in anything over 70 degrees. ;)

Probably no worse then a 67 GT500?  ;D
Keeping a 67 GT 500 cool would be a piece of cake by comparison IMO. A mildly warmed over 289 in a Tiger could have cooling issues I can't imagine what lengths you would have to go through to cool even a mild 429 in that small closed engine space . It is not like you could fit a much higher capacity radiator then what is available for a high performance 289 Tiger in it.

There are people who absolutely no hot restarting problems with 67 500's others it's a nighmare. Probably most are somewhere in between.

I don't think the oxigenated gas helps. I think it tends to flash? Could be the big variable depending on where you are in the country since the blends probably vary just enough?


A double thick radiator MIGHT help but it ain't gonna' be cheap. Even so, an 'interesting" concept.
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Bob Gaines

Quote from: shelbydoug on February 09, 2021, 07:56:51 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 09, 2021, 03:49:24 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on February 09, 2021, 03:42:57 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on February 09, 2021, 03:33:44 PM
I am wondering if it will not overheat in anything over 70 degrees. ;)

Probably no worse then a 67 GT500?  ;D
Keeping a 67 GT 500 cool would be a piece of cake by comparison IMO. A mildly warmed over 289 in a Tiger could have cooling issues I can't imagine what lengths you would have to go through to cool even a mild 429 in that small closed engine space . It is not like you could fit a much higher capacity radiator then what is available for a high performance 289 Tiger in it.

There are people who absolutely no hot restarting problems with 67 500's others it's a nighmare. Probably most are somewhere in between.

I don't think the oxigenated gas helps. I think it tends to flash? Could be the big variable depending on where you are in the country since the blends probably vary just enough?


A double thick radiator MIGHT help but it ain't gonna' be cheap. Even so, an 'interesting" concept.
As I mentioned before Tigers have cooling problems typically when the engines get modified.I have had my share of dealing with the tiger cooling problem. The Tiger aftermarket has come up with various extra thick,double thick radiators for use with modified engines. The problem is there is only so much space in that body to fir expanded radiator size. I think the aftermarket has maxed out the off the shelf radiator size for what will fit in the space available for that body. I would venture to say that cooling is one of the issues that the seller was talking about needing finishing while sorting out the car. I may be wrong but think it is a good guess given what I see.
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I notice he doesn't say it will turn.
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