Found 68 GT350/500? need help identifying it. I have questions

[Terry Curry]

At first glance I would say Mustang with Shelby Fiberglas. Don't see a roll bar.

[gt350shelb]

could be only the front 1/2 is shelby

[mr68shelby]

Can't see the 4 rivet holes for the hood pin plates.

[shelbymann1970]

Hard to tell by the pics but would the 4 pin holes in the dash match up to a Shelby emblem? They appear to match up to this NOS but the angle could be deceiving.  Do any of the reg Mustang dash emblems used have this hole pattern? It appears they don't.

[tesgt350]

Anyone who believes that there is a VIN stamped in the trunk area is not too bright.

There was always "talk" of a third number in the trunk that one needed to drill a hole through the trunk floor to see but as of this date, no one that I know of has ever confirmed that it existed.

It was mentioned in Ford documentation and could just be a misinterpretation of other information provided to State Police Departments?

I believe there IS a hidden VIN on the early Mustangs after watching a TV Show where Three Teams would buy a Car out of a Junk Yard to flip.  They were each given a certain amount of money to spend and they had one week.  The Team that made the most Money from their Car won.  This Team bought a 66 Mustang Coupe out of a Junk Yard to flip and one member was thinking the whole time the Mustang was stolen because the VIN's were gone, so the rest of the Team decided to call the Cops to check. They talked with the Cops about a possible hidden VIN and the Cops said every Car has a hidden VIN.  Everyone was sent out of the Garage and the doors closed, about 30 minutes later the two Cops came out and said YES, the Mustang had been reported Stolen and they had to take it.  That Team lost.

[shelbymann1970]

Well every car would have a hidden Vin so many assy line workers over time would have stamped that Vin. So how come I have never heard from any of them saying this was done? I have my original metal vert media blasted and I put it on a rotisserie back around 2000. I checked all over for any numbers as I restored it top to bottom detailing everything and actually over restoring the bottom(body color). So am I to assume that the cops can come in and drill a hole and find a complete or mostly partial VIN on my car? Gary

[stangman39]

A bit off the original topic but I think most officers today don't really know where to look for vins on old Mustangs.
When I've need a few verified in the past I usually have to educate the officer.  Just my experience tho.

[CharlesTurner]

Well every car would have a hidden Vin so many assy line workers over time would have stamped that Vin. So how come I have never heard from any of them saying this was done? I have my original metal vert media blasted and I put it on a rotisserie back around 2000. I checked all over for any numbers as I restored it top to bottom detailing everything and actually over restoring the bottom(body color). So am I to assume that the cops can come in and drill a hole and find a complete or mostly partial VIN on my car? Gary

I have to agree with this.  There have been thousands of 1st generation mustangs that have dissected, panel by panel, stripped to bare metal and built back up.  If there were ever any hidden VIN's someone would have found them by now.

[shelbydoug]

Supposedly it is lightly stamped inside on of the rear chassis rails. I believe that it begins in the '68 model year.

It does not show through with any transparency like the front aprons do.

I can not confirm this but have had State Police tell me that yes it exits.

You at the time, needed some kind of security clearance to see it since the Police did not want the information out in the public domain.

[Royce Peterson]

You just proved  my comment is dead on.

Anyone who believes that there is a VIN stamped in the trunk area is not too bright.

There was always "talk" of a third number in the trunk that one needed to drill a hole through the trunk floor to see but as of this date, no one that I know of has ever confirmed that it existed.

It was mentioned in Ford documentation and could just be a misinterpretation of other information provided to State Police Departments?

I believe there IS a hidden VIN on the early Mustangs after watching a TV Show where Three Teams would buy a Car out of a Junk Yard to flip.  They were each given a certain amount of money to spend and they had one week.  The Team that made the most Money from their Car won.  This Team bought a 66 Mustang Coupe out of a Junk Yard to flip and one member was thinking the whole time the Mustang was stolen because the VIN's were gone, so the rest of the Team decided to call the Cops to check. They talked with the Cops about a possible hidden VIN and the Cops said every Car has a hidden VIN.  Everyone was sent out of the Garage and the doors closed, about 30 minutes later the two Cops came out and said YES, the Mustang had been reported Stolen and they had to take it.  That Team lost.

[427hunter]

There is not a secret vin number stamped anywhere on a mustang/shelby, the only body stamped vin numbers are on both front inner fender aprons.

Post the vin of this car and all the questions will be answered.

P.S. In the past he N.I.C.B.  published a cheat sheet that showed the location of vin/hidden vins on vehicles, that's where police departments got that information from in the first place.   

[shelbymann1970]

Supposedly it is lightly stamped inside on of the rear chassis rails. I believe that it begins in the '68 model year.

It does not show through with any transparency like the front aprons do.

I can not confirm this but have had State Police tell me that yes it exits.

You at the time, needed some kind of security clearance to see it since the Police did not want the information out in the public domain.

again my car above was media blasted and the underside was real clean in the areas you mentioned. If you can provide a pic of the approximate areas you are referring to I'll get my friends all original California car up on a lift and look for those numbers in the areas you provide. My vert I spent 6 months on a rotisserie perfecting the underside getting rid of dents and any metal pitting(none in the rear frame areas). Pic below is the outer rear frame rail on one side of the B9 I mentioned. So look on the other side? Or do you mean the inside of the rails which are impossible to see unless you cut the car up? If that was the case it would be impossible to stamp the INSIDE of the rail because it is "U" shaped and no way to stamp once formed from a blank.

[427heaven]

 Its like a BIGFOOT sighting... One time, someone, saw one, somewhere,  The young police inspectors, DMV inspectors, and Mustang experts cant find it. Certainly no one with a sawzall, hole saw is not getting anywhere near that area without considering possibly losing their life over that number. Might be there, Like Morrisons car it might show up...

[TOBKOB]

Everyone was sent out of the Garage and the doors closed, about 30 minutes later the two Cops came out and said YES, the Mustang had been reported Stolen and they had to take it.  That Team lost.

The question is which cop's house did it go to???    

TOB

[Harris Speedster]

I have never witnessed a secret Vin on a mustang.
I will say this, when I was dealing heavily in Dodge, Cuda etc, hemi or 6 pack for the most part;

A dear friend in Ca told me of a secret vin on Cuda's and other Mopar.
trunk rain gutter, drivers side if i recall.

There are other stamped locations, but FEW experts knew about the rain gutter numbers.
John