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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #90 on: October 13, 2021, 07:59:26 PM »
Terry thank you for the details on your car. I will follow up with a PM regarding the 2pc nose.

You may know, the hood latch support (upright bracket) was not a Shelby part and was on the base unit supplied by Ford.
Shelby did add the grille light mounting plates. I believe they were welded on.

The top section of the latch does appear to be added on to the vertical section..if that is what you are referring to.


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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #91 on: October 13, 2021, 09:02:03 PM »
1967 Shelby GT 500 Moss Green #504 has the 2 piece nose and slanted Grill. SA completion date January 30th.
Question though, the upright bracket looks like it was two piece, and welded, is this correct. Based on comparisons it seems it is not correct.

Sorry I forgot to add your image with notes...

Terry, you are correct, the weld on the hood support bracket is not typical.  (Not sure why this would have been "spliced", you might compare to a unmodified one and see if the overall heights are the same)

The plastic clip (red arrow) is a Shelby added item, it was to hold the wire to the inboard headlights to the support.

Also, the headlight bucket is a Unmodified one, Shelby made this hole larger so the headlight connector could fit through the hole and then they added a rubber grommet to close the enlarged hole.

See image below for a comparison of un-modified and modified and the grommet, hope this helps
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Images added: early inboard light car with the plates for mounting the headlight buckets and the hood latch support bracket (Ford) modified by Shelby.  Note there is a weld where (some?) of the nose support/license plate bracket got welded to the hood support bracket, this seems to be where the cut and re-weld is on the bracket in question.  Could be it was cut during removal or accident repair at some point and then spot welded to re-attach??

Also note the enlarged holes in the head light buckets and the supply wire with the connector routed through the enlarged holes.  This is why the rubber grommets were needed/made.

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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #92 on: October 14, 2021, 01:39:23 PM »
Thank you for the feedback. Now that makes more sense on why the plugs were modified by the PO of the car. What size is the enlarged hole? I also attached a picture of the back side of the inboard light bracket. Again thank you for the help/info.

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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2021, 02:09:18 PM »
Thanks for posting the backside, the enlarged holes are 1.5" (1-1/2") if I remember correctly.  The fender light buckets get them too - each car got 4 grommets.

(I sell the grommets if you/anyone needs them, click on the link in the signature at the bottom of my post)



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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2021, 03:13:43 PM »
You can fudge on the fender buckets having the big holes given you can't see them once mounted but the high beam lights (regardless of inboard /outboard grill) are highly visible . It is one of the things I have learned to look for when judging in concours because the buckets are commonly replaced during restoration and the large hole and corresponding large grommet are overlooked when replacing.
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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #95 on: October 14, 2021, 09:52:02 PM »
My "unrestored" Nightmist Blue GT500 #817 built 1/26/67 has a two piece nose

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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #96 on: October 14, 2021, 10:37:55 PM »
My "unrestored" Nightmist Blue GT500 #817 built 1/26/67 has a two piece nose

Thank you for sharing that info.
I need to update the list on page 1 (updated)

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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #97 on: October 18, 2021, 02:11:22 PM »
As requested, here a few picture of the 2 piece nose for car #504. I removed the nose off the car 20 years ago. Note the hole on the backside of the outside lights, is a 2" hole in the fiberglass.

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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #98 on: October 18, 2021, 02:13:17 PM »
More pictures #504 - 2 piece nose

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« Reply #99 on: October 18, 2021, 02:15:48 PM »
Final set of pictures of two piece nose for #504.

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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #100 on: October 18, 2021, 05:25:08 PM »
Thank you for the pictures. They are very helpful. I thought I would add so that there is no confusion that the large diameter rivets holding the two pieces together top and bottom would most likely not be painted body color given the nose was installed on the car after being painted.
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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #101 on: October 19, 2021, 01:19:04 PM »
Thank you for sharing the photos.
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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #102 on: October 19, 2021, 02:09:09 PM »
Yes, thanks for posting!!
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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #103 on: October 19, 2021, 02:38:36 PM »
My pleasure. Trying to get the car back together correctly and I thank everybody for their help. I purchased a step-drill to open the holes to 1.5" on the inboard lights. Though the holes in the fiberglass for the outside/driving lights are 2" I will not touch them (Make them smaller to fit a 1.5" grommet as Bob Gaines said you can't see them)
Again thank you for your help.
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Re: 1967 Shelby - fiberglass nose - 2 pieces?
« Reply #104 on: October 19, 2021, 04:19:03 PM »
Based on the photos you posted, the grommets are already there in the fender light buckets - they are in/attached to the metal buckets not the fiberglass openings. 

This is typically the same on the grille lights, the grommet is "in" the bucket not the metal backing/mounting plate.

Here is a fender light mounting plate with the bucket and the grommet in the enlarged hole.  (The grille lights are similar, but the plates are different.)  With the two-piece nose the buckets appear to be attached to the back of the fiberglass headlight pocket (3 mounting tabs) but the grommet is still in the bucket.

Thanks again for posting these ;-)
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