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New Ford GT to have a V8?

Started by deathsled, August 13, 2021, 08:02:17 AM

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Don Johnston

My grandmother grew up riding ponies as a daily rider.  I grew up (debatable term) riding Ford ponies.  My grand children will probably have electric ponies (not  like the ones I rode or a nickel  in front of the grocery store). 8)

98SVT - was 06GT

Quote from: Don Johnston on November 12, 2021, 10:00:30 PM
My grandmother grew up riding ponies as a daily rider.  I grew up (debatable term) riding Ford ponies.  My grand children will probably have electric ponies (not  like the ones I rode or a nickel  in front of the grocery store). 8)
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Agreed a tremendous package at an affordable price  !

Can't tow?  no problem

C8 Corvette Gets Hitched in Venice, Florida - Corvette: Sales, News & Lifestyle
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019/08/01/spied-c8-corvette-gets-hitched-in-venice-florida/

Quote from: Side-Oilers on November 12, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
Great banter. Love it.

I don't think anyone's yet mentioned that a major reason for the V6 in the GT is for the halo effect of a boosted V6 to the rest of the Ford products. 

Such as: Navigator (I own one, 450 hp) F-Series pickups, Explorer cop vehicles, etc. 

That's a concept as old as anything in the car biz. 

And yes, I think the Corvette is a screaming bargain.   Yes, there's ridiculous dealer gouging on them.   The Z06 should be fantastic, and priced right...gouging excepted.  Or, maybe even with it.

In this day of $100,000 American SUVs, a killer Vette for under that price is indeed a great thing.   Except that it can't tow.   :P
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Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on November 12, 2021, 04:35:00 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on November 12, 2021, 04:08:57 PMA3 heads off of a local circle track racer

So I would say .... a contemporary

You and I just have different experiences from being in different places. I'm sure though that there is some sort of a common denominator?

My engine is a Huffaker prepped destroked to 310" TransAm one. It was back there around 83/4 and the owner couldn't cover the bill so the guy who built my car bought it. They've spent a lot of time in the engine even to the point of cutting and rewelding the pushrod guides for better alignment on the A3 heads.

Bottom line car guys is car guys

How come we had to get 4 pages of posts before someone mentioned Ford's real mid engine sportscar for the masses - the Pantera? It is it's 50th anniversary this year - and only the 1st one for the middy Vette.
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Quote from: FL SAAC on November 12, 2021, 12:09:53 PM
Why thank you not only 95 but 595, 736, 826, I75, A1A and our glorious turnpike many a times to an event, show, meet or repairs.

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Quote from: shelbymann1970 on November 12, 2021, 12:05:44 PM
Quote from: FL SAAC on November 12, 2021, 11:49:56 AM

The answer is plain and simple,  NO they will not !

Why should they do this if they have an exclusive club catering to people who for the large portion are not car enthusiasts that drive their vehicle as intended ?

Just keep raking in the money

Quote from: shelbydoug on November 12, 2021, 11:08:01 AM
Well here's an additional thought.

What would it take for Ford to start up a Corvette type production line and volume?

Could they justify a reduction in price of the Ford GT to Corvette Z06 competitiveness by installing a V8 and claiming that it reduced the cost dramatically?

Did they initially dismiss the thought of competing with the Corvette because the "Corvette market" was impenetrable and maybe are now wavering at a try?

Is Ford way ahead of you on this Doug? Sorry I talk to myself often. Why? I'm the only one that listens.  ;D



I'm actually a little pissed about all of this. We kick this stuff around for free and the Exec's get paid BIG money to do this for a job?  >:(

They probably regularly insult each other and throw spitballs behind each others backs...just like here!  I could be good at that for money?  8)
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Quote from: shelbydoug on November 12, 2021, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: 98SVT - was 06GT on November 12, 2021, 04:35:00 PM
Quote from: shelbydoug on November 12, 2021, 04:08:57 PMA3 heads off of a local circle track racer

So I would say .... a contemporary

You and I just have different experiences from being in different places. I'm sure though that there is some sort of a common denominator?

My engine is a Huffaker prepped destroked to 310" TransAm one. It was back there around 83/4 and the owner couldn't cover the bill so the guy who built my car bought it. They've spent a lot of time in the engine even to the point of cutting and rewelding the pushrod guides for better alignment on the A3 heads.

Bottom line car guys is car guys

How come we had to get 4 pages of posts before someone mentioned Ford's real mid engine sportscar for the masses - the Pantera? It is it's 50th anniversary this year - and only the 1st one for the middy Vette.

Mentioning non-Shelby related cars around here has fallen out of favor. It's a different crowd now. Some improvements. Some detriments.



The A3 heads were prepped for me by Joe Lapine at Danbury Competition. I'm not a racer, maybe just a lunatic street guy? I don't know. People keep their distance from me and don't turn their backs?

Even the car thief that was in the driveway at midnight threw up his hands saying "please don't do anything...I'm going" and ran down the driveway, jumped into a running car and drove off.

People tell me that I make faces at them? Maybe I watched too many John Wayne movies as a kid and shouldn't wear that black Rooster Codburn eye patch? Dun' no'? I don't think it is the Colt in the side holster? Do you? ;D



I actually had the guide plate issue on the AFR's. It caused me to bend a few push
rods. I've got that ironed out now. The A3's have been problem free...knock on wood as he punches his head.

I had a set of B351's which had smaller ports and I absolutely hated.



The Pantera SEEMS to be just right with a 351. You've gotta worry that you don't hurt the ZF. A 383 would be nice with a thick XE or Meyer block but is likely over the torque limit of that silly thing?

As I recall (correctly or not) the ZF was tried in the MkII's and promptly destroyed itself? So a very limited budget keeps me from going there.

Leave it alone is my motto at this point.

By the same token a 8,000rpm something small block is going to need a lot of maintenance with some now very expensive parts. Titanium valves alone are gonna' put a big crimp in your happy.





We are car guys. That's the common denominator. Probably with an unreasonable twist towards Shelby and even the corporate antics of FoMoCo? There is no reasonable explanation of that. My shrink has no opinion on that. I think that she's afraid of me?

As I said. Speaking truth to power has always been an iffy thing?

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#66
Quote from: FL SAAC on November 13, 2021, 05:55:27 AM
Agreed a tremendous package at an affordable price  !

Can't tow?  no problem

C8 Corvette Gets Hitched in Venice, Florida - Corvette: Sales, News & Lifestyle
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019/08/01/spied-c8-corvette-gets-hitched-in-venice-florida/

Quote from: Side-Oilers on November 12, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
Great banter. Love it.

I don't think anyone's yet mentioned that a major reason for the V6 in the GT is for the halo effect of a boosted V6 to the rest of the Ford products. 

Such as: Navigator (I own one, 450 hp) F-Series pickups, Explorer cop vehicles, etc. 

That's a concept as old as anything in the car biz. 

And yes, I think the Corvette is a screaming bargain.   Yes, there's ridiculous dealer gouging on them.   The Z06 should be fantastic, and priced right...gouging excepted.  Or, maybe even with it.

In this day of $100,000 American SUVs, a killer Vette for under that price is indeed a great thing.   Except that it can't tow.   :P

Problemo. Looks like there is no possibility of putting my roof racks on?

At least on the Pantera, you can use it as a mini-pick up.

I have screens over the Webers so they can't suck in any of the hay bails.
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Quote from: Don Johnston on November 12, 2021, 10:00:30 PM
My grandmother grew up riding ponies as a daily rider.  I grew up (debatable term) riding Ford ponies.  My grand children will probably have electric ponies (not  like the ones I rode or a nickel  in front of the grocery store). 8)
Living RENT FREE in your minds

All Time Post Count King !

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FL SAAC Simply the Best, much Better than ALL the Rest.

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

shelbydoug

Quote from: FL SAAC on November 13, 2021, 06:28:13 AM
Well, well, well

Quote from: Don Johnston on November 12, 2021, 10:00:30 PM
My grandmother grew up riding ponies as a daily rider.  I grew up (debatable term) riding Ford ponies.  My grand children will probably have electric ponies (not  like the ones I rode or a nickel  in front of the grocery store). 8)

"Mustang Sally, you better slow your Mustang down!" - Wilson Pickett

That must be her?
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FL SAAC

Living RENT FREE in your minds

All Time Post Count King !

Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

FL SAAC Simply the Best, much Better than ALL the Rest.

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

FL SAAC

Not a granny

Back to ttye topic:

Don't think Ford will put a V8 in the GT will drive the current exorbitant price even higher.

Oh wait, those that buy these vehicles are recession proof, pass the gray poupon  !
Living RENT FREE in your minds

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Home of the "Amazing Hertz 3 + 1 Musketeers"

FL SAAC Simply the Best, much Better than ALL the Rest.

I have all UNGOLD cars

I am certainly not a Shelby Expert

shelbydoug

#71
Quote from: FL SAAC on November 13, 2021, 09:27:44 AM
Not a granny

Back to ttye topic:

Don't think Ford will put a V8 in the GT will drive the current exorbitant price even higher.

Oh wait, those that buy these vehicles are recession proof, pass the gray poupon  !

Is that her name?

I've heard of some women being refereed to as Viagra but never Grey Poupon? That sounds perverse.


It must be the Presidential blue that's the attraction? Wimbledon White doesn't affect them?

I'm too tall. I would have missed that perspective. Thank God for the little guys.
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deathsled

Quote from: FL SAAC on November 13, 2021, 09:27:44 AM
Not a granny

Back to ttye topic:

Don't think Ford will put a V8 in the GT will drive the current exorbitant price even higher.

Oh wait, those that buy these vehicles are recession proof, pass the gray poupon  !

She looks like plastic in that photo.  A little bit too perfect.  A thing not normally seen in the wild.  (At least the wild of the Midwest.)
"Low she sits on five spoke wheels
Small block eight so live she feels
There she's parked beside the curb
Engine revving to disturb
She's the princess from his past
Red paint gold stripes damned she's fast"

Don Johnston

She's a young one looking for the electric motor making such a loud noise when she fires up the car.

Side-Oilers

#74
Can't tow?  no problem

C8 Corvette Gets Hitched in Venice, Florida - Corvette: Sales, News & Lifestyle
https://www.corvetteblogger.com/2019/08/01/spied-c8-corvette-gets-hitched-in-venice-florida/


I highly doubt there'll ever be a "tow package" on a new Corvette.  The trailer hitch on the camo'ed car was 99% probability (my number) used to tow a small trailer that's part of the engineering gear.  They can be calibrated to simulate grades, etc.  They run them 24/7 on vehicles at most proving grounds.  I've been on every domestic PG, and a lot of German, Japanese, British, Swedish and Italian proving grounds, too.

98 SVT can probably add to this. 
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