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69 shifter handle

Started by kasearch@ix.netcom.com, November 15, 2021, 09:41:34 AM

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kasearch@ix.netcom.com

Need some input please. I understand that there are reproductions A/T 69 shifter handles out there.  I have two options (pictures attached) and need to know if either is original, or which one you would use on a 69 500?  Thanks

kasearch@ix.netcom.com

Quote from: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on November 15, 2021, 09:41:34 AM
Need some input please. I understand that there are reproductions A/T 69 shifter handles out there.  I have two options (pictures attached) and need to know if either is original, or which one you would use on a 69 500?  Thanks

shelbymann1970

Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

Bob Gaines

Quote from: kasearch@ix.netcom.com on November 15, 2021, 09:41:34 AM
Need some input please. I understand that there are reproductions A/T 69 shifter handles out there.  I have two options (pictures attached) and need to know if either is original, or which one you would use on a 69 500?  Thanks
The first pictured one is a repro or later service. The assemblyline versions have the wood cut out follow the contour of the snake more closely.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Bob Gaines

Quote from: 69mach351w on January 17, 2022, 08:59:31 PM
I think this shifter knob is the 69-70 shelby 4-speed manual shifter knob.

Can anyone clarify?
Yes and that is what it looks like with all of the wood grain effect worn off.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Bob Gaines

Quote from: 69mach351w on January 17, 2022, 10:40:11 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 17, 2022, 09:47:31 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on January 17, 2022, 08:59:31 PM
I think this shifter knob is the 69-70 shelby 4-speed manual shifter knob.

Can anyone clarify?
Yes and that is what it looks like with all of the wood grain effect worn off.
Lol, still not going to affect the functionality. Grab that knob and slam 2nd gear will feel like any other shift knob. ;)
Anyway, Thanks.
Your right works the same just looks nasty.
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Bill Collins

It was also used on the '67 -'68 Cougar XR7. That is probably where Shelby Automotive sourced it.
Enthusiast since 1965, SAAC charter member since 1975 and Regional Rep since 1985, GT350 Owner since 1971, 289 Cobra owner 1979-2016, Ford GT owner 2006 - 2017

shelbymann1970

Quote from: Bill Collins on January 18, 2022, 09:16:55 AM
It was also used on the '67 -'68 Cougar XR7. That is probably where Shelby Automotive sourced it.
It was installed  on  deluxe Cougars  in 1969.
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

Krelboyne

There are actually two knobs used 1967-69 on Cougar XR-7's. They look the same, but the later version (mid / late 1968) has a groove around the barrel/fat part of the knob. Early versions do not have the groove at all. Very prone to wear, mint versions very seldom seen.
Scott Behncke - Carchaeologist @ WCCC

Bob Gaines

Quote from: 69mach351w on January 18, 2022, 09:56:21 AM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 17, 2022, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on January 17, 2022, 10:40:11 PM
Quote from: Bob Gaines on January 17, 2022, 09:47:31 PM
Quote from: 69mach351w on January 17, 2022, 08:59:31 PM
I think this shifter knob is the 69-70 shelby 4-speed manual shifter knob.

Can anyone clarify?
Yes and that is what it looks like with all of the wood grain effect worn off.
Lol, still not going to affect the functionality. Grab that knob and slam 2nd gear will feel like any other shift knob. ;)
Anyway, Thanks.
Your right works the same just looks nasty.
Bob, you're relentless, that's for sure.  ;)
Thanks.I think? LOL
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

shelbymann1970

Quote from: Krelboyne on January 18, 2022, 10:44:53 AM
There are actually two knobs used 1967-69 on Cougar XR-7's. They look the same, but the later version (mid / late 1968) has a groove around the barrel/fat part of the knob. Early versions do not have the groove at all. Very prone to wear, mint versions very seldom seen.
Chris from Legendary motor car educated me on 68-69  4 speed shift knobs about 15 years ago. He had about 30 knobs(NOS?) from all iterations. He once showed me an early 68 Deluxe blue stripe knob with no ring around it. Then a ring(flat 3s) then into the 69 iterations(round 3s). Was it very early that the ring disappeared on the deluxe Cougar knob(assume the standard Cougars got the black knob like a Mustang?)?
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

Krelboyne

Black knob on Standard model (non-XR7) Cougar with manual transmission. Faux woodgrain on the XR-7's with stick shift transmissions. They came 3 and 4 speed in the wood grain. The wood grain 4 speed version with the groove I think has a C8WY... part number.
Scott Behncke - Carchaeologist @ WCCC

shelbymann1970

67 shifter, 67 knob(early 68)
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

Bob Gaines

Quote from: 69mach351w on January 18, 2022, 01:19:38 PM
Here's better photos. Cool vintage look.
Agree a cool look. So no one reading gets the wrong idea the 69 Mustang/Shelby shift lever does not have a reverse lock out cross bar . 65-67 Mustang /Shelby does .
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby

Bob Gaines

#14
Quote from: 69mach351w on January 18, 2022, 04:45:02 PM
If all that has commented would read my Reply #4, I ask clarification for the knob,
Not the shifter.  ::)
Yes but you need to consider others reading who my be confused by posting a picture of a 67 shifter without giving it context as it relates to this 69 thread . No harm done but I thought it would be helpful to provide a explanation that's all. 
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby