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Mecum Kissimmee 2022 - Shelbys

Started by silverton_ford, January 05, 2022, 07:39:00 PM

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JD

#30
Looks like Vern was working to make it happen with 002...
'67 Shelby Headlight Bucket Grommets https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=254.0
'67 Shelby Lower Grille Edge Protective Strip https://www.saacforum.com/index.php?topic=1237.0

Royce Peterson

I am thinking (trying to put a positive spin on it???) that maybe the rear end was damaged back in the day and repaired with what they got from the local Ford warehouse? Thanks for making me feel like I noticed something interesting. I figure it hurt the sale price.


Quote from: Coralsnake on January 15, 2022, 10:55:23 PM
QuoteI looked at the last GT500KR that sold Friday night. It had the early rear quarter panels with the recessed rear reflectors. Is that possible on a KR?


Never

Seriously you're changing quarters on an expensive car and you didn't notice that?
1968 Cougar XR-7 GT-E 427 Side Oiler C6 3.50 Detroit Locker
1968 1/2 Cougar XR-7 428CJ Ram Air C6 3.91 Traction Lock

EdwardGT350

what was the hammer price not inc commission on the 65 red/gold hertz car?
1966 GT350 6s1761

SCJSTU

Does anyone know why the white gold stripe 66 Hertz was a no sale at $150k?

I looked it over looked nice but I'm no expert and the added Paxton setup was nice
1969 Shelby GT350 convertible 4 speed/ AC
Built Jan 1969 Red/Black

1967 S-Code 4 spd Black/Parchment
2004 Mustang Mach 1
1956 Ford F-100 Big Window 392 Hemi
1957 F-100 Fridge
1963 Falcon Ranchero
1961 Econoline PU
1961 Falcon 2 dr wagon
1970 Challenger R/T vert 4 speed
1970 Chevy Blazer 2WD

shelbymann1970

#34
Quote from: Royce Peterson on January 16, 2022, 12:09:58 AM
I am thinking (trying to put a positive spin on it???) that maybe the rear end was damaged back in the day and repaired with what they got from the local Ford warehouse? Thanks for making me feel like I noticed something interesting. I figure it hurt the sale price.


Quote from: Coralsnake on January 15, 2022, 10:55:23 PM
QuoteI looked at the last GT500KR that sold Friday night. It had the early rear quarter panels with the recessed rear reflectors. Is that possible on a KR?


Never

Seriously you're changing quarters on an expensive car and you didn't notice that?
Poor Ron said: Registry has a note about repairs to quarter panels due to transportation damage.. So I'd expect if no shenanigans going on all the other sheet metal like the inner structure metal would pre date the actual KR build consistent with other cars built that day. If that was true I'm at a loss why those "early" quarters were not modified during resto unless the SAAC registry was considered proof enough for early quarters on this car? 
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

Rukiddin

#35
Sorry, damage during NEW car shipping was taken serious,even on a 4 door Falcon. Small parts,like moldings,etc could be replaced. Damage that would require REPLACING 1/4 panels ,out of the realm of possibility. The FIRST statement made about that is where the lies began. Picture damage to rear of 68 Shelby that would require REPLACING 1/4 panels.....fiberglass parts? Not a scratch/ding! More likely the info supplied for registry was distorted to hide the real reason. Auctions are the SECOND oldest profession. Do your inspections BEFORE you bid/buy.
As the values increase,the crooks will come out of the woodwork.

Vernon Estes

Who was that guy behind Eddie M bidding on that car? Holy smokes, I didn't know human beings could be so damn handsome  ;D

Kind regards,
Vern
Junk dealer and the oldest young guy you will ever know.

rockhouse66

Quote from: Vernon Estes on January 16, 2022, 08:39:42 AM
Who was that guy behind Eddie M bidding on that car? Holy smokes, I didn't know human beings could be so damn handsome  ;D

Kind regards,
Vern


You mean Jim Wicks??  ;)

Vernon Estes

Quote from: JD on January 16, 2022, 12:00:05 AM
Looks like Vern was working to make it happen with 002...

We did end up getting the car although the TV coverage went to commercial too early to tell at home.

R002 is going to the home of someone who cares deeply for the car's history. It'll be in good company, too.

Kind regards,
Vern
Junk dealer and the oldest young guy you will ever know.

shelbymann1970

Quote from: Rukiddin on January 16, 2022, 08:38:20 AM
Sorry, damage during NEW car shipping was taken serious,even on a 4 door Falcon. Small parts,like moldings,etc could be replaced. Damage that would require REPLACING 1/4 panels ,out of the realm of possibility. The FIRST statement made about that is where the lies began. Picture damage to rear of 68 Shelby that would require REPLACING 1/4 panels.....fiberglass parts? Not a scratch/ding! More likely the info supplied for registry was distorted to hide the real reason. Auctions are the SECOND oldest profession. Do your inspections BEFORE you bid/buy.
As the values increase,the crooks will come out of the woodwork.
I could see one side but not both. A guy I knew(since the early 80s) was the original owner(think still is but moved to Az) of a black 69 351W Mach1. He ordered a maroon one when he started his internship with Ford in June of 1969(whole career as a Ford eng). The car came in and one quarter panel was damaged being taken off the transport and needed replacement so he rejected the car. Dealer couldn't find him another maroon car but found a black one. He said no. The dealership asked him to come see the car. He said once he saw it(claimed no orange peel in paint) he loved it and bought it. So my question now without the registry in front of me was that info from a former owner or Ford archives on the KR?
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

Special Ed

#40
 Buyers are paying more $ for cars coming out of collections (around 40 collections here). Something is wrong with this market when a tour bus sells for more than SJ dragonsnake cobra. The only bus here that should have sold for over a mil was the yellow specialed short bus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Royce Peterson

I spoke with the owner of the white '66 Hertz car that didn't sell. Looked the car over pretty well too. It was a nice driver with a new reproduction Paxton setup installed. It had worn Radial TA tires that dated more than 10 years ago. Sort of an odd color combination with the white exterior / gold stripes.

My take on it was the Paxton was adding nothing to the car's desirability. It would have done better with a newer, more correct set of tires and some proper detailing of the underside and exhaust system.
1968 Cougar XR-7 GT-E 427 Side Oiler C6 3.50 Detroit Locker
1968 1/2 Cougar XR-7 428CJ Ram Air C6 3.91 Traction Lock

shelbymann1970

Quote from: Special Ed on January 16, 2022, 09:27:35 AM
Buyers are paying more $ for cars coming out of collections (around 40 collections here). Something is wrong with this market when a tour bus sells for more than SJ dragonsnake cobra. The only bus here that should have sold for over a mil was the yellow specialed short bus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But ED, it was painted in SELL red!  ;D ;D ;D
Shelby owner since 1984
SAAC member since 1990
1970 GT350 4 speed(owned since 1985).
  MCA gold 2003(not anymore)
1969 Mach1 428SCJ 4 speed R-code (owned since 2013)

Mikelj5S230

Formerly known as CorvetteMike.

Bob Gaines

Quote from: Special Ed on January 16, 2022, 09:27:35 AM
Buyers are paying more $ for cars coming out of collections (around 40 collections here). Something is wrong with this market when a tour bus sells for more than SJ dragonsnake cobra. The only bus here that should have sold for over a mil was the yellow specialed short bus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yellow specialed short bus!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ed WILL EVEN AUTOGRAPH THE DASH !
Bob Gaines,Shelby Enthusiast, Shelby Collector , Shelby Concours judge SAAC,MCA,Mid America Shelby