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Re: 65 on EBay
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2018, 07:30:40 PM »
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Re: 65 on EBay
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2018, 09:21:51 PM »
Agree, get an expert and get Howard involved in the process. Approachable helpful guy; he might even tell you a story or 2 about his R!
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++1, Howard is a great, helpful person and will be a great help to whoever is serious about this machine!
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2018, 10:42:16 PM »
Geez. They even posted a shot of the full Ford VIN on the block.  :o
I don't understand.  I thought Ford didn't start stamping VIN's into blocks until 1968.  How does a 65 have a VIN stamped block if this didn't become a manufacturing norm until three years later?

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Re: 65 on EBay
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2018, 10:52:35 PM »
Geez. They even posted a shot of the full Ford VIN on the block.  :o
I don't understand.  I thought Ford didn't start stamping VIN's into blocks until 1968.  How does a 65 have a VIN stamped block if this didn't become a manufacturing norm until three years later?

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The Hipo blocks were VIN stamped in 65, 66 and 67 due to the shorter warranty Ford provided for the K-codes.

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« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2018, 10:48:22 AM »
Geez. They even posted a shot of the full Ford VIN on the block.  :o
I don't understand.  I thought Ford didn't start stamping VIN's into blocks until 1968.  How does a 65 have a VIN stamped block if this didn't become a manufacturing norm until three years later?

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All early Shelby's should have the VIN stamping . Those that don't generally have some "story" as to how theirs is the exception, blah blah blah......

FWIW,  a VIN Stamped engine block is only an indication of originality, NOT proof f anything.  Many people think nothing about having replacement blocks stamped during an overhaul or restoration.  Done by an experienced person, a subsequent block stamping cannot be told from an original one. 

So buyer beware, don't pay extra for a meaningless stamp, without other substantiating evidence that the block / engine is original.


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Re: 65 on EBay
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2018, 11:06:02 AM »
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2018, 11:37:31 AM »
Thanks for the education.

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Re: 65 on EBay
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2018, 12:10:18 PM »

All early Shelby's should have the VIN stamping . Those that don't generally have some "story" as to how theirs is the exception, blah blah blah......

FWIW,  a VIN Stamped engine block is only an indication of originality, NOT proof f anything.  Many people think nothing about having replacement blocks stamped during an overhaul or restoration.  Done by an experienced person, a subsequent block stamping cannot be told from an original one. 

So buyer beware, don't pay extra for a meaningless stamp, without other substantiating evidence that the block / engine is original.

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I am reminded of this article from Hemming;

https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/mus/2008/08/Just-a-Second---1968-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28/1676538.html

I am amazed just how many performance cars from the 60's are now all numbers matching with all original parts and just one repaint.    ::)

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Re: 65 on EBay
« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2018, 12:24:50 PM »
Geez. They even posted a shot of the full Ford VIN on the block.  :o
I don't understand.  I thought Ford didn't start stamping VIN's into blocks until 1968.  How does a 65 have a VIN stamped block if this didn't become a manufacturing norm until three years later?

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68 was when engine VIN stamping was federally mandated. Prior to 68 it was common for Ford to stamp some part of a 65-67 high performance engine drive train (block and or trans) for law enforcement identification purposes because those vehicles were thought to be more prone to be stolen and or parted out .
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Re: 65 on EBay
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2018, 01:36:53 PM »

All early Shelby's should have the VIN stamping . Those that don't generally have some "story" as to how theirs is the exception, blah blah blah......

FWIW,  a VIN Stamped engine block is only an indication of originality, NOT proof f anything.  Many people think nothing about having replacement blocks stamped during an overhaul or restoration.  Done by an experienced person, a subsequent block stamping cannot be told from an original one. 

So buyer beware, don't pay extra for a meaningless stamp, without other substantiating evidence that the block / engine is original.

Z

I am reminded of this article from Hemming;

https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/mus/2008/08/Just-a-Second---1968-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28/1676538.html

I am amazed just how many performance cars from the 60's are now all numbers matching with all original parts and just one repaint.    ::)


Disturbing of the lengths people will go to rip others off.  Whenever there are lots of cash involved, people do whatever they can to take your money. 
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Re: 65 on EBay
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2018, 02:22:37 PM »
Including fake bids in an attempt raise prices! Private auctions are nothing but.

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Re: 65 on EBay
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2018, 04:01:28 PM »
Geez. They even posted a shot of the full Ford VIN on the block.  :o
I don't understand.  I thought Ford didn't start stamping VIN's into blocks until 1968.  How does a 65 have a VIN stamped block if this didn't become a manufacturing norm until three years later?

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68 was when engine VIN stamping was federally mandated. Prior to 68 it was common for Ford to stamp some part of a 65-67 high performance engine drive train (block and or trans) for law enforcement identification purposes because those vehicles were thought to be more prone to be stolen and or parted out .
Thanks Bob.

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« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2018, 01:30:22 AM »
Including fake bids in an attempt raise prices! Private auctions are nothing but.

Ebay is full of shill bidding too.


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Re: 65 on EBay
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2018, 01:47:00 PM »
Forgot to Re-Register on this site after the crash-

It's cool to see this car surfaced after many years in hibernation. My dad was the (2nd owner) of it and ended up selling it to a guy in California. Less that Steering wheel my dad said it appears to be the same way he sold it back in the 80's..