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VIN # stampings
« on: February 28, 2019, 10:57:38 AM »
Just got a question from a friend..do 67 GT 350 4 speed cars have the VIN stamped on both the engine & transmission ??

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Re: VIN # stampings
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2019, 11:02:36 AM »
Yes Sir.
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Re: VIN # stampings
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2019, 11:03:51 AM »
No...!

Not all 67 GT 350's had a VIN on the engine.
About 1/3 of them had NO VIN

If the car was a factory four speed the Ford VIN should be on the bottom of the transmission.
I've never seen a 67 GT 350 with its factory 4 Speed without a VIN on the bottom

I've owned maybe 15 67 GT 350's without a VIN on it's 289HP

Bret
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Re: VIN # stampings
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2019, 11:33:21 AM »
No...!

Not all 67 GT 350's had a VIN on the engine.
About 1/3 of them had NO VIN

If the car was a factory four speed the Ford VIN should be on the bottom of the transmission.
I've never seen a 67 GT 350 with its factory 4 Speed without a VIN on the bottom

I've owned maybe 15 67 GT 350's without a VIN on it's 289HP

Bret

Why is that? They stamped them on '66's and all K codes, right?

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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2019, 12:14:28 PM »
Correct..
All 65-66 GT 350's had a VIN on them...

However, in 1967 groups of 289HP didn't have VIN's on them.
I don't honestly know why.
About 10-15 years ago I would come across original 67s with very good integrity without a VIN on their engine block.
After passing on my findings with SAAC it was confirmed that 30-40 cars built that same week didn't have the VIN's on their blocks either as reported by other owners.

I think Dave Mathews can confirm if your car should have a VIN with one email....
Just tell him your Shelby number...

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Re: VIN # stampings
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2019, 01:19:13 PM »
I think Dave Mathews can confirm if your car should have a VIN with one email....
Just tell him your Shelby number...

Bret

My car is a 500

I was just curious.

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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2019, 02:13:42 PM »
I've never seen a 67 GT 500 with a VIN on it's engine.....


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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2019, 02:31:07 PM »
Sorry Bret,  yes, I knew GT500's and automatic trans didn't receive them.  Interesting about small blocks though.  Is it safe to say the majority of small block engines should have a VIN stamped?
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2019, 02:46:59 PM »
I bet 75% of the 67 GT 350's had a VIN...

But that leaves maybe 300-350 cars that did not...

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2019, 03:21:57 PM »
I wonder how many times an owner of one of these cars has had to argue that their block is indeed original to their car?
I could see a lot of perspective buyers be cautious about a car without a VIN stamped on the block.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2019, 03:56:06 PM »
I've never seen a 67 GT 500 with a VIN on it's engine.....

Wait-  You've not seen a GT 500 with a VIN on its block??  I was unsure of the originality of my engine due to the lack of a VIN.

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Re: VIN # stampings
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2019, 04:18:07 PM »
No VIN on the block on my '67 500 either.  4 speed transmission, yes.

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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2019, 04:19:47 PM »
Mike:  I've never seen a VIN on a 67 GT 500 engine...

If the date on the block is correct then it very well might be original to the car...

Good news?

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Re: VIN # stampings
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2019, 04:21:46 PM »
No...!

Not all 67 GT 350's had a VIN on the engine.
About 1/3 of them had NO VIN

If the car was a factory four speed the Ford VIN should be on the bottom of the transmission.
I've never seen a 67 GT 350 with its factory 4 Speed without a VIN on the bottom

I've owned maybe 15 67 GT 350's without a VIN on it's 289HP

Bret
Respectfully disagree on your estimate. 1/3 is overstating the amount in the group that didn't have a VIN stamp on the block by hundreds IMO. More like a hundred cars didn't have a VIN stamped if that out of the 67 Shelby GT350 production IMO.
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2019, 04:30:12 PM »
Mike:  I've never seen a VIN on a 67 GT 500 engine...

If the date on the block is correct then it very well might be original to the car...

Good news?

May be good news.  I didn't really look closely at casting info when I saw there was no VIN present .  Now I need to take a closer look and see what I have.   

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